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Wholesome At 71 Muhammad Ali playfully challenges Mike Tyson during a visit in 2013

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u/Realistic_Pen9389 1d ago

Do a bit of reading on that topic and then come back 😭

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u/Longjumping_Excuse_1 1d ago

Shades of grey nah? Dude's redeeming himself day by day, showing he's changed from the angry younger man he used to be? If you don't give chances to people who fucked up and did bad shit in the past, what reason do they have to try and change at all.

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u/Realistic_Pen9389 1d ago

He’s a convicted rapist. Sorry - no excuses for that !

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u/Adventurous_Toe7222 1d ago

Nobody is making an excuse for rape, but you absolutely do need to give people a chance to redeem themselves. Some real good is done by despicable people seeking redemption. Read about Frank Meeink for example.

Not saying Tyson is good, but that attitude of "no excuse" is pretty juvenile and reeks of "I'm 14 years old, have internet access, and am very smart"

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u/Realistic_Pen9389 1d ago

And I believe you do need to give people a chance to redeem themselves as well. However I believe there is zero excuse, absolutely zero excuse for any form of sexual assault. Rape of a minor is worse than murder. And that’s where I draw the line really. Murder can be committed for so many reasons - rape is the most selfish thing a human being can do. To take that from another human being knowingly? Knowing that you’ll be protected by your money and status? Yeah, no thanks. I understand what you’re saying, I just completely disagree in this situation.

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u/ThatsMrDicknosetoyou 1d ago

I also think rape is bad