r/jazztheory • • Sep 04 '25

New rule: no AI slop

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u/blowbyblowtrumpet Sep 04 '25

I think AI is evil incarnate. You're all good here.

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u/spin81 Sep 04 '25

TBH I didn't run this by my fellow mod /u/cheekymusician but I don't expect a lot of backlash on this one

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u/winkelschleifer Sep 04 '25

Good move. I’m a moderator over on r/jazzpiano, no AI allowed there and performance posts must be video, no audio only to prevent AI and plagiarism. Jazz is a very human creative endeavor and should stay that way.

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u/tremendous-machine Sep 04 '25

Good idea. Not always easy to tell, but good to have the rule anyway. :-)

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u/spin81 Sep 04 '25

Yeah it's getting harder and harder unfortunately.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '25

raises eyebrows

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u/JazzRider Sep 04 '25

This is a good time to thank our mods on this sub. Without you guys, Reddit would quickly become the cesspool that newspaper comments were a while back. Thanks for what you do!

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u/BigAndyMan69 Sep 04 '25

My day job is editor of an electronics design magazine, and our columnists, mainly EEs, have started using AI to write their columns. If it starts “The problem: Yada yada yada. The solution: Yada yada yada,” it’s AI. Also “and other details to be hammered out at a later date.”

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u/boogielostmyhoodie Sep 06 '25

Bro these people's souls must be crushed, like wtf are you doing with your life if you get a job as a columnist and decide ai should do it for you

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u/pmolsonmus Sep 04 '25

This sounds just like what an AI bot would post! /s

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u/MagicalPizza21 Sep 04 '25

Good. LLMs are ruining everything.

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u/ub3rh4x0rz Sep 07 '25

no AI slop

allow AI as a writing aid

pick one

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u/spin81 Sep 07 '25

These are not mutually exclusive in my view, but I'm open to having my views changed?

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u/Ed_Ward_Z Sep 04 '25

I agree. 100%

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u/ocolobo Sep 05 '25

No editing tape machines! 😡

Say goodbye to Bitches Brew 🙄😂

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u/tremendous-machine Sep 06 '25

I'm probably dating myself, but I can't be the only one who will now hear the r/jazztheory moderator voice as Bill Maher from now on.... ;-)

New rule: If you think real jazz fans want to hear your bullshit "coffee-shop jazz for relaxing", you get to hand copy out all three volumes of the real book, correcting all mistakes, with an HB pencil.

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u/AubergineParm Sep 06 '25

I’m a mod over on r/pianoteachers and we get a load of “AI taught me piano” rubbish. Going to have to redo our community rules soon.

Don’t get me wrong, AI can be pretty useful for helping out with things like complex excel sheets and debugging CSS, but people using it in the place of actual creativity and assuming they’re instantly gods gift to music is driving us nuts.

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u/Snoo-26902 Jul 10 '26

I think there ought to be a law compelling people who use AI to produce music or art to label it as AI-produced.

I dont mean spell checkers and things like that since they are very willing to admit AI is in their product.

Not a law against using it at all, but one has to label it as such by law.

I think that will help diminish the bad effect of this technology on art.

It's interesting that technology companies are happily calling their tech AI, but music creators of AI won't label their product as such to the public, and are massively deceiving people and getting away with it.

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u/tragic_mask Sep 07 '25

I use AI to understand how those complex chord progression works in jazz all the time, does it count? I honestly find it insanely useful.

And if you say it’s ok to use AI to help with English, then is it ok to use AI generate some licks for you to play it? No one is native speaker of jazz, and not all players are good at stringing notes together.

Speaking in a language is very similar to playing music: expressing yourself with phrases and established structures in a predefined context to communicate with other people.

You can’t play random things and expect people to hear jazz just as not all sounds you make with your voice is English. It has to be learned enough to use it in an understandable way.

So where should we draw the line of using AI to aid our expression? If it’s one prompt generated lazy AI slop then I agree it should be banished, just as somebody playing music without honest effort. (not skills, but effort)

(no AI used in this comment, please pardon my English)

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u/Alireddito Mar 24 '26

Why are yall mad at ai

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u/spin81 Mar 24 '26

Because this is a sub full of professional creatives.

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u/Impossible-Grand3893 Sep 08 '25

Slop?  If humans can't do better, maybe they should accept their betters.