r/lebanon • • 2d ago

Help / Question Should I accept this job?

They offered me an opportunity for an admin position combining HR and accounting, which interests me. However, it requires visiting government offices and banks to follow up on paperwork. The thought of running around and waiting in queues makes me anxious.
They are waiting my answer to tell me the offer and the salary if i accepted that.
Without that part, I’d be happy to take the job.
Would you accept it or keep looking?

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u/Exciting_Bee7020 2d ago

The fact that you are expected to accept a job without knowing the salary is a huge red flag.

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u/Leader3232 2d ago

The HR manager made me feel like I was asking the wrong questions!! All I said was that I wanted to see the offer before making a decision.

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u/Defiant-Truck3 2d ago

Ellon eh bro , eza ra2em ma 3ejbak nayemlon w ma 3ed tred , eza hek aam yetmanyako

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u/Leader3232 2d ago

Eh al hni ma badn ambiguity mn l awal ...ya eh ya la2 from the frst step

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u/Defiant-Truck3 2d ago

Bro l ambiguity enno ma y2oulalak ma3achak mn lawal 😂 , 7ake HR bro maaroufin b art l hake , you have the right to ask

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u/MutedAcanthisitta247 Lebanese 2d ago

They don't want ambiguity bas they won't even tell you the salary 😂

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u/Leader3232 2d ago

Ana i expected a work in office elna ok ! Bas l surprise inu visits to daweyr l dawli w fya natra w traffic all day !

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u/ElonMuskovski 2d ago

Depending on the salary

Tell them you don't have a problem with that, let them give you the offer and check the salary.

If it's low, tell them, too low. No thanks

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u/ElonMuskovski 2d ago

If I was in your place, I would accept, and if I don't like the job... I'd quit right after.

Or not work at all.

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u/Leader3232 2d ago

Yes they didnt disclose the salary ! They are waiting my final answer

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u/Alib902 2d ago

How are you supposed to give them an answer if you don't know the salary? That probably means that it's gonna be on the low end.

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u/RAS256 2d ago

kif yaane bdak te2bal offer bala offer

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u/MutedAcanthisitta247 Lebanese 2d ago

Absolutely not, tell them you can't give a final answer before knowing the salary

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u/Leader3232 2d ago

Yes i asked them about the offer ...they refused to answer !

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u/MutedAcanthisitta247 Lebanese 2d ago

That's the biggest possible red flag. Basically they're saying to your face that the salary is so bad no one would accept it if they knew what it was. PLEASE do not take this job

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u/Leader3232 2d ago

The HR made me feel like I was asking the wrong questions!! All I said was that I wanted to see the offer before making a decision.

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u/MutedAcanthisitta247 Lebanese 2d ago

Bro this entire thing is so sketchy. I'm assuming no daman either. Did they even tell you if you'll get a contact to sign?

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u/Leader3232 2d ago

Frst i should accept to visit the gvmt offices and banks (plus the daily office work) then they ll proceed with the hiring process

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u/FastMagician4207 2d ago

Chu hl khabsane. Kello depends on the salary. Walla oza 2500$ ill kindly run 3a maraket l dawle. If its 1000$ ha ello bye bye 🤣🤣. This HR is extremely unprofessional, cheghlo w chaklo ma elo fiya

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u/Zakkarashi 2d ago

Wait it’s a job offer where you have all the details, except the salary? Akid accept nothing until you get all details on paper.

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u/Leader3232 2d ago

I know all the job description but the issue is this point ...if i accept that they ll continue the process with me and they ll provide me with all detaails ! But the problem is am confused bcz am unemployed

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u/Defiant-Truck3 2d ago

Accept what ? Accept loffer aw accept enno 7a trou7 w tebrom 3al banks ….
aslan no offer to accept baad ma aloulak edde , as to accept enno tebrom , eza hayde mn l requirement of this kind of job ma fi mahrab ellon ehh , w eza woslo lal offer w l paycheck mch mni7 nayem . AKIDE MA 7A Trou7 tomde w to commit ella ma tkoun eeref adde ma3achak. Aslan fi 3 months probation usually fik enta aw hene tefekso l contract fa mch e5eret ldene bas enno ma3achak lezem ykoun awal jaweb bi jewbou lachou lmanyake

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u/Leader3232 2d ago

Accept the requirement then they ll disclose to me the offer and the salary ! Bas frst step innu i should accept this requirement to proceed

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u/Defiant-Truck3 2d ago

Bro elet ennak unemployed , i know kelna introvert usually here on reddit 😂 , but work until u have experience than u work fully remotely for a company outside , you need to sacrifice first ( i spent 3 years in shit job lebanon until i thankfully rta7et ) eza bterjaale accept , mache 7alak add ma bte2dar la Alla yefreja . Bas hayde akide eza loffer ken 7erzen at least. Be3te2ed law eylinlak lma3ach kenet ahyan 3lek taaref eza worth it . Anyway mch e5eret ldene BAs, bterjaalak lossa , bas ellon eh bkel l 2a7wel eza wsolet lal salary w l2ita 7erzene yala mabrouk , eza la2 nayem

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u/Leader3232 2d ago

Eh logic kterr what u have said !

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u/ElonMuskovski 2d ago

Tell yes, I accept. Depending on the salary ofcourse.

How the hell does a person accept a job without knowing the pay?

Weird company

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u/Wissamxz 2d ago

Having been a banker , I can you tell that it’s an easy job.

However whether you should accept it or not depends on how well respected your company is.

I met many company representative  or affiliated that would come handle deposits , Tax , Loans , Bills and oversea Transactions.

Here’s what I know from them:

First: the job will have you always on the road ( think 70% on-road 30% office work )

Second: Salary’s usually range from 300$ to 1600$ ( depending on how reputable the company is )

Third: some companies give you Transportation expenses ( money or Vouchers ) , some assign you a Choufer ( I’ve only met one ) , and last they don’t pay you fuel expenses and say it’s part of your Salary ( these are weak and disrespectful  companies ).

Fourth: incase of low salary a lot of companies compensate you through service bonuses/ commissions , basically say you deposit 3000$ in the bank for the company owner/ supervisor he may actually give you 3150$ and says deposit 3000$ and 150$ are your’s for your hard-work. This is very common for low wage companies where your basic salary is 300$ but you would get a 150$ tip or a 30$ tip every now and then so you actually salary would be between 300 to 500$.

Lastly you have to make sure your friendly with all the bank , shops , and companies Managers & Assistant Managers since they can really help ease your job. You can call them before hand to get ready to receive you and the occasional surprise food like “ حلو" really helps.

So the most important points for you to ask about are :

  • Salary 
  • Transport expenses 
  • is there any form of tips or bonuses 
  • and naturally the basics ( insurance , nssf , work hours , etc )

Hope this helps :)

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u/Leader3232 2d ago

Thank you ! The problem is i dont see myself as معقب معاملات and in the same time i need a job

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u/Wissamxz 2d ago

Honestly if the wage is good and you own a vehicle you should accept the job.

you work mostly on your own with no supervisor over your head to order you everyday ( naturally there is a supervisor you can call for advice it’s just that if you’re doing good he won’t bother you )

  • you spend your days on the road fresh air , different environments every day instead of office Walls , and you can make a music playlist to listen to all day or podcasts.

  • and If you’re a shy it really helps you get out of that phase.

  • lastly you’ll gain a huge list of connections from the people you meet.

Honestly if these things appeal to you , you should accept the job and if not still accept if it has a good salary mostly to get the experience and the fact that you need a job.

After two months if you don’t like it send in your resignation. You got nothing to lose .

This is my honest advice :)

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u/Leader3232 2d ago

Hbbyt l positivity ! Thank you bro

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u/-OCD 2d ago

Bro say yes (it legally means nothing), then see the offer, if the offer is not what you want, tell them how unprofessional they are by not revealing the offer and expecting an aswer first and say no.

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u/Leader3232 2d ago

Yes its confusing really Especially am unemployed

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u/confusedhumannn 2d ago

Ahama chi don't sign anything kamen. Just say yes to know ade l salary bs i think eno l salary is low so that's why they're not saying anything

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u/Leader3232 2d ago

It should be how much ?! Cz its a combination of hr work and accounting work and on site visit to ministries

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u/confusedhumannn 2d ago

Ana b2oul they're gonna offer you chi 600$ or a bit more. That's low bra2ye. Update us when you know exactly how much.

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u/shatila456 2d ago

i would rather off myself, but I'm introverted, and hate crowded places 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/Leader3232 2d ago

Yes same here

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u/Puzzled-Flower3381 2d ago

Ou3ak t2bal bshe abl ma t3rf kel ldetails

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u/PrestigiousEnd7219 2d ago

this comment has teta vibes

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u/SeaExamination4541 2d ago

Accept chou ya bro? Eza l ma3ach ba3d ma bta3rfo

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u/Leader3232 2d ago

Accept visiting the gvmt offices kl week marra ! Its a precondition before negotiating the salary

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u/SeaExamination4541 2d ago

Ehh eh 2rit bas ma fi hek chi bel hayet. Hayde ma esma offre. Offre by definition hiye l ma3ach/package etc mou2ebil l cheghel yale 3am ta3mlo

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u/Leader3232 2d ago

Sah still mch offer bas innu they asked me before pursuing the process

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u/SeaExamination4541 2d ago

Metl ma 7ada ghayre allak, ellon eh bas ta y2ouloulak chou l ma3ach w rja3 khod 2arar

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u/Leader3232 2d ago

True hek 3mlt

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u/ARTHUR_CREED 2d ago

See the salary at first and ask them if they will give transpotation for ruunig around give office

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u/Leader3232 2d ago

Yes i will but the issue is i hate visiting the gvmtl offices and waiting all the day to process stg ! Thats why am confused ! And am unemployed ! So am confused

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u/ARTHUR_CREED 2d ago

I saw an article Tha around 75 percent of government application are now didgital you can see the office that you have websites

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u/myeclipsedsun2 2d ago

Say yes but do not sign anything before knowing how much you’ll make.

If the salary covers the actual traveling distances go for it. If you hate it later you can quit easily within the 3 months (usually) probation period.

I’ve been on the same boat with numerous shady companies practices. It is a major reason why I am still unemployed. I wish there was some authority someone could turn to in these situations.

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u/Leader3232 2d ago

Yes i am waiting to know the salary and the details ! Am 35 and still didnt find a secure job in leb

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u/cns000 2d ago

Then accept the job and try it.

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u/Different_Funny_537 2d ago

I would love to have such a job becasue I dont like to stick my a** all day on a desk ..but it depends on you ..also another perk is that u wont have micromanagement ( as someone whos constantly looking over u ..ud be on ur own half of the time at least ) u can accept it even without knowing the salary ..then if u dont like it ..u just ignore them ..legally they can't do nothing ..trust me I'm a law grad but I asvise u since ure unemployed accept it and try it ..if u dont like it just leave 

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u/Important-Owl9863 1d ago

Man this already sounds like shit and you know it . wtf is this they don’t disclose salary f this