r/magicTCG • Dan • 7h ago

General Discussion Cards I think should’ve been in the Labyrinth secret lair.

Hoggle as Norin- Personally I think it fits who he was for most of the movie and I’d love for the flavor text to include, “I’m a coward and Jereth scares me.”

Food coma- Obviously the scene where Hoggle gives Sarah the peach.

Lorin Disciple of history- The junk lady, just think it would’ve been awesome to see her on some art. Also that scene was the second scariest to me as a kid.

Time of need- I really think it would be cool if this was redesigned and named after the ending scene “If you need us” I think it would’ve been awesome.

Oubliette- the obvious pick the flavor text could’ve been, “Oh don't act so smart. You don't even know what an oubliette is.”

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u/Approximation_Doctor Colossal Dreadmaw 7h ago

I thought I was on r/BadMtgCombos and was going crazy trying to figure out what this did

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u/Whitewalls92 6h ago

I think Jareth not simply being [[Goblin King]] was the biggest miss, but man Oubliette was a layup too.

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u/zeldafan042 Transwalker 6h ago

They learned their lesson from the Evil Dead SL that if you're reskinning existing cards for a SL, any major named characters should be reskins of legendary creatures. [[Ash, Destined Survivor]] not being legendary is one of the biggest dropped balls of that SL. There's no way they weren't making a Jareth you can run as your commander.

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u/Eldrazi_king Dan 5h ago

Holy hell, I never realized goblin king wasn’t legendary…

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u/Humble-Light-1322 Dan 4h ago

you never realized a card older than the legendary supertype wasnt legendary

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u/Eldrazi_king Dan 4h ago

Never looked at it too hard. Put it in my Krenko deck and forgot about it.

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u/haidere36 COMPLEAT 3h ago

Many cards older than the legendary supertype were legendary, they just used "legend" as the creature type, which is understandably very odd by modern standards.

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u/Humble-Light-1322 Dan 3h ago

Goblin King is even older than that. Legends didn't exist until, well, Legends.

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u/Butt_Robot COMPLEAT 1h ago

Ugh, you just reminded me about that secret lair and its mono white ash

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u/Eldrazi_king Dan 6h ago edited 6h ago

Yeah that was surprising to me. Especially since we got ‘The cleaners’ as leveler.

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u/mtgcf Keeper of the Mox 6h ago

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u/Drajl19 Dandadan 6h ago

It is honestly insane to me that they didn’t do Oubliette. I’ll never understand.

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u/Tacobellspy Duck Season 6h ago

Still could be a bonus card

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u/Eldrazi_king Dan 6h ago

Wish they also would’ve given us some gobo tokens in the Jereth secret lair

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u/austin-geek Grass Toucher 1h ago

I would buy an entire set of Brian Froud illustrated goblins. 

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u/zeldafan042 Transwalker 6h ago

Do we know what the bonus cards are yet? Because I could easily see Oubliette being a bonus card.

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u/Eldrazi_king Dan 5h ago

I thought it was ‘The labyrinth’ maze of ith.That you only got if you spend 200$

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u/zeldafan042 Transwalker 5h ago

That's the bonus card for spending a certain amount on the drop. Individual SLs also get a bonus card. A lot of times it'll be a random promo card that has nothing to do with the drop, but UB SLs will often have a unique bonus card in addition to the advertised ones.

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u/Eldrazi_king Dan 5h ago

Ahh awesome, this is the first SL I’ve bought so I’m excited to see what it is

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u/Orzahn Dandadan 5h ago

And I only just now found out there was a Labyrinth secret lair...

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u/Eldrazi_king Dan 4h ago

I found out like day of through email. Lowkey feel like every secret lair has truly been a secret to me cause I never even realize they have them 80% of the time

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u/mixallen Duck Season 4h ago

Azusa, Lost but Seeking would be a perfect Sarah

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u/Eldrazi_king Dan 4h ago

So true

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u/EpsilonActual Dân 2h ago

That [[oubliette]] text is soooooooo much easier to read than the old one. Holy shit.

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u/mtgcf Keeper of the Mox 2h ago

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u/DarthNixilis Dan 1h ago

How the hell did [[Oubliette]] not get included‽

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u/mtgcf Keeper of the Mox 1h ago

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u/harrisonfm22 Dân 1h ago

Urborg or Bojuka Bog as "Bog of Eternal Stench", sad omission.

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u/Eldrazi_king Dan 1h ago

Either would’ve been nice.

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u/YungHeretic Dân 7h ago

So, a bunch of unplayable cards?

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u/Approximation_Doctor Colossal Dreadmaw 7h ago

Oubliette

Unplayable

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u/jbsnicket COMPLEAT 6h ago

It has only ever seen play in mono black in pauper and that deck has fallen to 0.1% of the meta game now.

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u/Tacobellspy Duck Season 6h ago

It's a great removal spell in Commander, one of few ways to actually remove a commander so they can't recast it

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u/jbsnicket COMPLEAT 25m ago

EDHREC has it at 0.8% of black decks. I would consider something like [[snuff out]] (3.9%) or [[dismember]] (3.2%) to be great removal spells. It can be good in specific play groups (like ones low on interaction or that tend towards very long games) or specific commanders (like devotion or enchantment ones), but I think it is quite niche. There is great single target creature removal at 2 mana ([[infernal grasp]],[[gitter triumph]]), more flexible removal at 3 with no downsides ([[maelstrom pulse]],[[vindicate]]), or removal at 3 that deal with multiple threats ([[ashes to ashes]], [[fire covenant]]).

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u/sanguinewarchild Dan 6h ago

In what world is Norin unplayable?

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u/Eldrazi_king Dan 7h ago

Perhaps, but they are thematic.