Anyone remember a few months ago, when Fujimoto's "Captain America Devil" drawing went viral, and people said that him depicting America as so terrifying and bloody was just cause it's a cool design, and "it's not that deep"?
I mean, it's a devil. It being terrifying isn't an indication of the actual thing it's based off of, because it's not actually based off of America; It's based off of the fear of America.
Darkness or Fire aren't monstrous because Chainsaw man represented their Devils as eldritch horrors, they're just the absence of light and a chemical reaction respectively. It's the fear of them that created those Devils.
You can argue that the fear of America exists for a reason. But just saying that the America Devil looks scary isn't an argument because it's a devil born from fear, of course it's going to look scary.
Yeah, but the particular ways that it looks scary you can look into is what makes it stand out. The choice to have the shield covering its eyes, the flagpole being a rifle, the point of the star keeping its mouth stabbed shut etc.
Between the gun devil's prevalence through the story, the actions with the NRA earlier, this chapter etc. Fujimoto is using these connections to America for a reason
No, america is scary because it's weak and cowardly, so it feels the need to swing its dick around to feel powerful. The point of the chapter definitely isn't saying america is cool, in fact it has a pretty strong statement of this shit being not cool.
I mean you can call America corrupt, warmongers, neocolonizers and what not but you can't exactly say that the most powerful country in terms of military, diplomatic, technologic, and economic might within the last half century is weak and cowardly.
He can't get everything right. It's why I generally think artist should stay out of politics, they just don't really know much about it beyond surface level memes
Why do you think so? Artists often put politics in art in interesting ways. I may not agree with it each time, but I dont think artists should stay out of politics
They do share it in many interesting ways! However, interesting ways are not very accurate, and people would rather get their views from artists than facts. You can have great art without politics, and no art in politics probably means much better politics
I dont know… for me the most memorable art have been the ones that had some form of politics in it. By the way what do you consider politics, like current stuff? Because most art everywhere has some sort of politics
For me the most memorable stuff is more about people and relationships and the things they go through, not politics
This chapter of Chainsawman where Fujimoto is pretending America is evil is what I mean about politics should stay out of things. It's very stupid and childish, though very authentically Japanese
Yeah but now you know how Fujimoto and other Japanese people look at America. You don’t have to agree with it, but it’s a good way of knowing their opinions and where they stand. Politics in art is also a great way to know what a society considers acceptable. Advertisements that were considered normal back then might be considered offensive now. Stuff like that is really interesting to me. As long as it doesn’t stick out and makes sense within the context of the story, I dont really mind politics in art
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u/BroadRaven Jul 29 '25
Anyone remember a few months ago, when Fujimoto's "Captain America Devil" drawing went viral, and people said that him depicting America as so terrifying and bloody was just cause it's a cool design, and "it's not that deep"?
Anyway, good chapter!