r/marvelstudios • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 Ant-Man • Aug 31 '26
Article Kit Harington Doesn’t Think There’s Any Plans for Black Knight in the MCU
https://movieweb.com/video/kit-harington-gives-disappointing-update-on-his-black-knight-mcu-future/100
u/MarvelsGrantMan136 Ant-Man Aug 31 '26
Kit:
“I mean, I'd love to. I don't think there's any plan to. I hate to break it to you. I think he's a wicked character. There's a part of him with that whole Ebony Blade stuff, where the more he kills, the worse he gets, the more addicted. I think this is such a great parable of addiction, and I think he's someone who starts good, goes bad. I think it's great, but we'll see. I don't know if there's any plan.”
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u/DannyGloversDeeBlood Sep 01 '26
I'd say that confirms it. And let's be honest - there isn't much demand for Kit lately, nor do I hear people screaming from the rooftops that they want a Black Knight movie.
Disney/Marvel got too ambitious and it didn't work out, so it's back to basics (aka what sells)
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u/ChickenAndTelephone Sep 01 '26
People don’t even scream from the rooftops for a Black Knight comic, let alone a film.
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u/Extension-While7536 Aug 31 '26
"But, I do know, here today, that the Black Knights will emerge victorious in the end.."
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u/Bitey_the_Squirrel Aug 31 '26
Black Knight, we need to to distract Doom
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u/OrangeSliceRecovery Ultron Aug 31 '26
Amen reverend.
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u/Extension-While7536 Aug 31 '26
Let's kick the tires and light the fires big daddy!!!!!!
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u/Quick-Bad Sep 01 '26
Don't get premature on me, soldier; we don't light up 'til the fat lady sings!
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u/Southern-Form-2804 Aug 31 '26
I mean I’d love Doom to finally intro the whole dark magic gothic side of Marvel we could do a whole phase around it. Get him in there.
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u/Extension-While7536 Aug 31 '26
I do believe you don't know what I was going for with that PARTICULAR quote.
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u/MillyMan105 Aug 31 '26
I think it woulda been cool to see Black knight as he has interesting character interactions with the avengers.
With ghost rider happening I hope that opens the door for a midnight suns movie that will bring back Dr strange, Moonknight, Werewolf by night and add in Blade & Blackknight.
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u/gabegdog Sep 01 '26
The Gatherers arc would literally slot almost perfectly years ago with the cast the MCU had at the time, as well as the eternals coming in.
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u/Inevitable_Box3643 Aug 31 '26
And he’d be correct, probably.
The way the Phase 4 and 5 casts have been treated is historically bad.
Typically you’d have the creatives working to improve characters or concepts that did not work, like when Thor 2 was not well received, but this bunch of characters were introduced and abandoned with less than 1% of the grace similar characters got earlier.
And now the Avengers movie, which should in theory have been these characters’ moment to shine is now again the Chris/Chris/RDJ show.
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u/eagc7 Aug 31 '26 edited Aug 31 '26
I think the difference is that while we did had some MCU films with so-so reception in the past they weren't to the level of today MCU films and shows and those so-so films were still profitiable enough to continue compared to today and since some of the newer projects didn't perform as well, that thus makes it less of a priority for Marvel to bring back the newer characters compared to back then.
But i hope that they still make use of those characters and try to redeem them. like okay Eternals didn't work, don't let them go to waste, just write them better and use them in say an Avengers film or Thor film, a film where they will be introduced to an audience that never saw their film
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u/sonnytron Steve Rogers Sep 01 '26
Call me crazy, but they could’ve really cooked with a Kang arc. They dropped the ball by clinging to “no heroes die” too much. Michael Douglas literally told them to kill him off. Kang should’ve won. No one cares if Kang’s whole thing is “there’s a bunch of him”. That’s not a strong villain. You need a singular big bad, that’s what made He Who Remains so compelling. He was the one who won, and he emphasized that it came at great costs. His scene at the end of Loki S1 is some of the most intimidating dialogue I’ve seen in the MCU.
Quantumania’s Kang was supposed to be so menacing and dangerous that even the Council of Kang’s outcasted him. And he gets beat by ANT MAN? Give me a break!
They had some interesting stuff going but they needed to just listen to fans… Let Kang win and kill Hank Pym, give Sam the serum, stop trying to push the Girl Marvels whatever slop. Ms Marvel’s show was good standalone. She didn’t need a damn group. I get it, the incels review bombing Ms Marvel needed to be put in their place, but the reaction was too strong. The Marvels was… NOT good…
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u/Tragedy_Boner Aug 31 '26
Marvel got knocked off their high horse and had no idea what to do.
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u/Chaotic_Marvel Sep 01 '26
But I feel like the warning signs were there early on. I remember there was already a portion of the fanbase that started to say "wait, what are we doing here?" As early as Eternals.
And it only got worse when they started to plug in America Chavez never to be seen again. Then introduced Clea. Then Hercules. All of which are just MIA.
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u/AchtungCloud Aug 31 '26
I mean, it seems they knew exactly what to do. You just don’t like it.
Make a Spider-Man movie, use it to soft launch X-Men, and bring back the beloved core Avengers actors. Now Spider-Man 4 was massive, Doomsday is tracking to be massive, and X-Men is likely to be massive, too.
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u/Tragedy_Boner Sep 01 '26
I was talking about Eternals, L&T, and Quantumania. I like BND. Doomsday is happening because plans changed
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u/AchtungCloud Sep 01 '26
Yes, I know. Those failed, which was them being “knocked off their high horse.” But they didn’t have “no idea what to do” afterwards.
They did, which was make changes like Doomsday to get back to success.
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u/Tragedy_Boner Sep 01 '26
So are they going to use the Eternals or Black knight in the future? Or Hulk’s son? Or all of Secret invasion?
They fixed it by abandoning the storylines. If they had an idea on what to do they would have done it.
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u/Adorable_Ad_3478 Sep 01 '26
Abandoning unpopular stories is a staple of the medium. Why are people surprised?
Right now in the comics, Gwen Stacy is "alive" yet Spider-Man writers want to ignore her since they don't know what to do with her.
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u/Tragedy_Boner Sep 01 '26
Comic storylines are all over the place and have been forever. Hurts a bit more in live action because there are actors involved.
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u/TheJack0fDiamonds Scarlet Witch Sep 01 '26
This! Like stick to your guns ffs. Go back to the drawing board and fina a way to make it work instead.
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u/Inevitable_Box3643 Aug 31 '26 edited Aug 31 '26
Agatha was made for pennies (it wasn’t even given enough money for magic VFX or even sets) and outperformed most of their portfolio yet it wasn’t capitalised on.
Shang-Chi was well liked and profitable but never got a follow-up. They refused to market the Marvels setting it up for failure. Same for Wonder Man.
Characters like Yelena are proof that if invested in, the Phase 4 and 5 characters can do well even if they come from “unsuccessful” properties. Properties like Daredevil and Punisher underperform yet they keep pumping money into it.
It seems like MCU is entering a Perlmutter 2.0 era at this point seeing the projects being approved and the ones being denied.
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u/SexyShave Sep 01 '26
It seems like MCU is entering a Perlmutter 2.0 era at this point seeing the projects being approved and the ones being denied.
Basically. No Blade or Armor Wars, but Ghost Rider is so important they're giving it the fast track.
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u/CaptHayfever Hawkeye (Avengers) Sep 02 '26
Feels like I need to explain this a lot:
- Blade fell apart because of creative differences that won't apply to Ghost Rider, due to Gosling & Levy working out their plan together before pitching the movie.
- Armor Wars fell apart because Secret Invasion completely blew up Rhodey's character arc.
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u/eagc7 Sep 01 '26 edited Sep 01 '26
I mean they really couldn't do much marketing for The Marvels due to the strikes.
With Wonder Man.........that can be applied to other Disney+ shows, Marvel and Disney have not really giving their shows a huge marketing campaing as of late.
But yeah Yelena is proof of something i've been saying, some here go "People and fans don't care about these low tiers characters, they want the Spider-Man, the Wolverine, the Hulk, the Daredevil, the Iron Man, etc" and i am like.....Eternals, She-Hulk, Ironheart and so on all of these characters can became popular as say the Guardians if you invest on them and you just get better writters to tackle them.
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u/QTGavira Aug 31 '26
tbf thats also because theres like 50x more characters than when Thor 2 released. You cant go back and fix all the ones that took a misstep. Itd take so many years
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u/DearDearNotLuis Aug 31 '26
Thunderbolts exist
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u/Inevitable_Box3643 Aug 31 '26
Seem to be the exception and not the rule. Ironically enough not even all of them. Taskmaster was used as a gag.
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u/LADYBIRD_HILL Kilgrave Aug 31 '26
I wouldn't call it a gag, it was an unfortunate result of announcing the cast before rewriting the script to make Bucky a big part and having to cut the fat elsewhere. Taskmaster wasn't received very well by audiences so it made sense to take her out right away as a way to show that characters can die on this team and are seen as expendable. It wasn't treated as funny at all like gags normally are.
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u/JoelStrega Sep 01 '26
They introduced too much new character when new core post Endgame has not fully developed as a character and solidified as a team. Leaving them with the beloved old guard, a few half developed char, and then a dozens of new chars. Should've developed the new core first while introducing only a few new chars.
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u/TheJack0fDiamonds Scarlet Witch Sep 01 '26
Agreed on the improvements. If they had the same mindset they’d pursue the Kang Recast to do Kang Dynasty as planned, pursue Eternals 2 with improvements, involve the Ant Fam better after Quantumania. Bring back Scarlet Witch heroically, involve Carol and make her more present to interact with more avengers..etc.
Instead, they panic and smashed the red button hard. I can see why they’d resort to that because hey, business. But let’s pause and understand how it all became such a financial risk in the first place?
Because they got too confident with believing that anything they slap the red logo on would automatically work. They grew complacent. So when shit hits the fan suddenly they’re withdrawing into themselves.
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u/Special_Order-937 Sep 01 '26
Thor 2 has positive audience and critics scores on Rotten Tomatoes and made a bunch of money that Thunderbolts and Fantastic Four would have killed for. It was well received enough.
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u/theglowinggreenorb Sep 01 '26
I think times are different now. Movies like Thor 2 or Ant Man 2 would probably have worse reviews in the modern era than when people were more willing to just go "yeah that was aight" before the MCU had to sustain the weight of 20+ movies and shows
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u/artourtex Aug 31 '26
I love Feige and Marvel Studios, but I can’t believe how they fumbled Kit Harrington and Emilia Clarke.
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u/DrVentureIsACrumbBum Sep 01 '26
I would never live down fumbling Emilia Clarke
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u/IncidentOk853 Sep 01 '26
Emilia Clarke has been in so many terrible flops since game of thrones
And none of them were her fault, she is usually amazing
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u/IncidentOk853 Sep 01 '26
I think solo is a good example, she was definitely the bright spot in that movie, but it was always going to be a one off that didn’t lead her to anything else in star wars, even before it flopped
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u/Hacksaw_Doublez Sep 01 '26
Q’ira was such an interesting character and the ending with Maul set up so many interesting things.
I’d have killed for a Q’ira and Crimson Dawn show post-Solo or beyond.
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u/Francis_J_Eva Sep 01 '26
The character shows up in the game Star Wars Outlaws, but only for a cameo and voiced by a different actress.
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u/Hammerrrr32 Aug 31 '26
It’s a shame. I love Black Knight and I think he’d be a fun character to add to the Avengers dynamic
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u/RaygunMarksman Aug 31 '26
Yeah, it would be silly to waste him entirely like this at least. He's one of their coolest B-listers.
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u/Fluffy_Comfortable87 Aug 31 '26
Sucks that they introduced him in the Eternals movie. I don't think anyone who was in that is coming back.
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u/TheJoshider10 Spider-Man Aug 31 '26
The annoying thing is it works so well as a standalone movie if they ended it with Gemma Chan and Kit Harrington embracing, plus removed the two credit scenes. But the pointless cliffhanger and sequel teases make it stick out like a sore thumb as something that needs addressing at some point.
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u/Special_Order-937 Sep 01 '26
I was so embarrassed when I mistook Arishem the Judge for Eason the Searcher. Boy I sure hope I was fired for that blunder!
Mind you, the Eternals did end up making it that it that Thanos was right and he also saved the Earth which is either an interesting twist or a massive misfire, your mileage may vary.
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u/Special_Order-937 Sep 01 '26
Alternate version Ikaris came back in a non-speaking part to fight zombie Captain Marvel in Marvel Zombies for what that’s worth!
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u/open_formation Sep 01 '26 edited Sep 01 '26
To be honest, I think Eternals was heavily damaged as a film by the sheer amount of ends it has, it feels like it's wrapping up return of the king when we haven't actually spend multiple films with these characters getting to know them, and then suddenly jolts the status quo with new events, while also managing to put none of those main characters in the story; every eternal either goes to space of their own accord, or ends up kidnapped by Arishem and taken to space anyway, and then Dane goes off on his own magic adventure.
It's way too busy, and though it's interesting to have a massive head appear in a park, I don't think you can do that and have people going to space and meeting Harry Styles, and have a secret magic sword as well, it's just too much.
That scene, plus the ones about them settling down etc. should really have been the post credit scenes, with the film actually going to credits on the island, after Ikaris goes into the sun, and Sprite gains the ability to age, as they were the main antagonists, it turns out, for the film, and with the uncovering of who the villain actually was being part of the mystery element of the plot, they could have spent a bit more time underling that point, so that people aren't just like "so what was that even about??".
Ikaris doesn't want his whole life's service to be for nothing, Sprite loves Ikaris in an unrequited way, and almost everyone else has got too attached to humanity to want to let them get eaten by a new celestial. On a personal level, it's actually about a love triangle, and on a thematic level, it's about them realising that they're actually not as different from humans as they think, the point should be to emphasise that humanity's story is their story too etc.
And what's the natural credits graphics to result from that? Probably about what they did this for, humanity, with lots of stuff about cool things from history with an Eternals twist, which is exactly what the end sequence was anyway, except it's a little too slow. The point should be the rush of realisation that they're no longer apart from humanity.
Then you do a really long end credits scene, which is the actual end of the movie as filmed currently, including up to getting pulled into space. Maybe split it into two scenes? Either way, the film should end clearly stating what it is about, why it matters to these characters and so on.
Otherwise, you just get vague setup after vague setup for like twenty minutes, at which point you've forgotten what film it was you even watched, and why anything happened in it.
(Also the subplot about the guy who kept absorbing their powers and changing to be more like them should have got a better resolution to his story too, like he absorbs enough that he finds himself unable to kill Thena in his final fight in a cave, without some kind of meaningful resolution or twist, there is literally nothing important or interesting about that character at all in the end, so that subplot ends up feeling pointless too.)
At each stage, if they'd focused more on payoff and on establishing the themes of the story, rather than just undermining them at the last minute or letting things drag on, we would I suspect see much fewer people saying that they can't really remember what happened in the film, and the cool bits would have more of a chance of lasting with a clearer set of narrative through-lines to anchor them.
Some people still wouldn't have wanted to have watched a long film about sad robot gods and the ways they are driven by their emotions, but for those who are in the audience who like that sort of thing, they could have focused more on delivering for that audience and not blurring it later.
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u/Quips_Cranks_Wiles Aug 31 '26
Man… I just started a Black Knight comic run last night and am having so much fun. He’s a great character, my sad little boy…
I wish we had the Black Knight/Blade movie man. What a huge loss
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u/Hi_Im_Dadbot Aug 31 '26
Lucky for Doom, because the Black Knight always triumphs. He’s invincible.
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u/planemissediknow Aug 31 '26 edited Sep 01 '26
Would be shocked if any character from Eternals is ever seen again. Feels like they’re just acting like that one never happened (besides what was in Brave New World)
Stuff like this is why you need a coherent vision. They threw so much stuff at the wall during that phase and barely any of it as stuck
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u/Scoteee Aug 31 '26
Well they were kind of put in a position where they can return when its convenient for the story. Arishem took most of the survivors away for an indefinite amount of time. It is kind of that way in the comics as well, eternals have a big thing happen then they dont get mentioned again for years. Ive fallen off comics a bit lately but last eternal thing i know of was the xmen crossover years ago.
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u/AchillesShort Captain America (Captain America 2) Sep 01 '26
I think there's still room to bring them back. If the xmen are the main focus of the new phase, and assuming they make Apocalypse the new big bad, the Celestials are tied to his origin.
If we see the Celestials there's always an opportunity to bring the Eternals back. Marvel is missing a bit of a cosmic side to the line-up now that the Guardians are on the backburner, so maybe that's how they bring that back.
And with a certain demon showing up in Iron Heart and Ghost Rider being announced, not to mention the existence of Werewolf by Night, I think there's still room for Black Knight and Blade to show up.
You're definitely right about needing a coherent vision, but as far as I see it, the board is cleared for those characters to make a return in some way or another.
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u/lorcana66 Aug 31 '26
Eternals was such a shame cuz there were a lot of interesting cool things but the movie itself was just not great
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u/GroundbreakingTax259 Sep 01 '26
So I guess we know what happened immediately after that post-credits scene:
Voice of Blade: "You sure about that?"
Dane: "On second thought, no." Puts the sword away, then sends it to a museum for safe-keeping, where it stays on display for many years as Dane lives a happy and ordinary life.
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u/Uncanny_Doom Daredevil Aug 31 '26
Considering they put this character in the movie by looking at a list of characters that hadn't been introduced in the MCU yet and said, "What if he replaced this guy?" yeah...that's a safe bet.
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u/SpikeRosered Sep 01 '26
I really feel like we witnessed human entertainment ambitions basically capping out. At a certain point everything becomes just too big, expansive, and expensive to really work anymore. MCU really experimented with how fucking big you could make a cinematic universe and seemed to learn there is some kind of limit that the real world will endure.
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u/Fancy-Trousers Sep 01 '26
I don't think it's a matter of expansiveness of the universe itself, it's the self-imposed timeline the MCU is on to capitalize as quickly as possible and their obsession with bloated team-ups. But it seems they're learning their lesson on both. Based on Spider-man BND and Doomsday hype, the MCU is only going to tank horribly in popularity if Disney floods the market. Hence their schedule slowing down. And things can be good with one or two cameos splashed in. No need to overwhelm audiences by throwing in half a dozen people that either require homework or eat up 20 minutes of the runtime recapping who they are. We don't need a yearly Avengers-sized team-up. And as BND showed, big players like Hulk don't need a recap and smaller players like Punisher can support the movie through their characterization, not their Wikipedia page.
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u/jakeseditbay Aug 31 '26
What a fuckin waste! Eternals was genuinely a good film!
https://giphy.com/gifs/9VFqCH1RmhfAwbG1Zz
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u/Scoteee Aug 31 '26
One of the best superhero end fights ever portrayed on film. Best speedster depiction as well.
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u/AithePanda Sep 01 '26
Finally, someone who I can agree with, the movie was good, sure it was slow at times and too many characters to introduced, but I enjoyed it regardless!
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u/TypeExpert Winter Soldier Aug 31 '26
Marvel should be getting alot more flack for wasting so many actors time between phases 4 and 5.
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u/clandahlina_redux Scarlet Witch Sep 01 '26
I really liked The Eternals upon my second viewing. Lots of missed opportunities all over it.
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u/wotown Aug 31 '26
Sorry we can't fit you into this movie, we must see Channing Tatum's meme Gambit and Chris Evans return as Captain America/Nomad again, again!
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u/killerbuttonfly Daredevil Sep 01 '26
Yeah, those are characters people actually like. Isn’t it funny how that works?
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u/BigCopperPipe Sep 01 '26
Yeah those are what gets asses into seats. The whole Midnight Suns movie only exists in the mind of fans.
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u/Adorable_Ad_3478 Sep 01 '26
Midnight Sons is the new West Coast Avengers and Young Avengers/Champions.
Everyone is convinced it will happen but Marvel Studios has given 0 indication that it will.
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u/killerbuttonfly Daredevil Sep 01 '26
Yup there might have been some momentum to build on if Eternals was better received. That didn’t happen so we move on.
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u/hansofoundation Aug 31 '26
He'll be back after Phase 7 starts. All it takes is one call from Feige and a good story and MCU Jon Snow is back on the menu.
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u/FreddyPlayz Sep 01 '26
Honestly with how awful his acting was in Eternals I’m not even mad about it
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u/ToxicBanana69 Aug 31 '26
Yes, but unfortunately a lot of people are too ignorant to see beyond “Harry Potter” to understand that by working with her they are putting money into anti-trans legislation. And whenever people point it out they get shut down by the people nostalgic for HP or the bigots loyal to JKR.
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u/phred_666 Sonny Birch Aug 31 '26
Wasted opportunity