r/maui • u/beartpc12293 • 17d ago

👁️‍🗨️Flock Cameras📹 Dystopia island

Just wanted to warn y'all, more MPD cameras going up today in Wailea. Be careful out there. Surveillance state fascism is here. I will vote for whoever voices opposition to the tech giants oligarchy

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u/Ill-Assumption-4919 Maui 16d ago

It’s a cliche but Hawaii isn’t immune from “you get what you vote for” 😐

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u/Big_Old_Sock 16d ago

This is happening under Mayor Bissen. Just an FYI.

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u/beartpc12293 11d ago

Emailed him a formal complaint. Won't do anything, I know. But if enough of us do the same, maybe

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u/TIC321 Aloha Spirit 17d ago

How did these cameras get approved?

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u/DifficultyCheap9861 17d ago

I think we’re done with the approvals phase of society.

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u/SkaiHues 17d ago

By the same jerk that approved the speed humps and parking fees for beach lots.

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u/surfingbaer 16d ago

MPD purchased them as part of their budget. But otherwise no elected officials “approved” them.

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u/TIC321 Aloha Spirit 15d ago

Typical "above the law" logic

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u/Begle1 16d ago

So what are our mayoral candidates' views on police surveillance cameras? 

We do have an election coming up, after all.

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u/tronovich Maui 15d ago

“Vote for me, and I’ll do my best to get rid of them. Also, vote for me, and I’ll do my best to add more of these”.

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u/Youtube_Zombie 14d ago

I am in western now. Grew up on Maui. We have this invasive ship everywhere now. Just waiting for the toilet cams to be mandatory. They need to know what you are doing everywhere.

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u/Youtube_Zombie 14d ago edited 14d ago

Police here are using cams to stalk women already.

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u/Sea_Operation_7012 16d ago

Really anyone

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u/Maui_Mine4847 15d ago

If a camera caught a person pestering (or worse) a loved one of yours and that got them jailed, would you still complain?

Big issues will always have this kind of dilemma.

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u/beartpc12293 14d ago

Flock cameras have already led to false arrests, police misconduct, etc. This will only get worse. He who is willing to trade freedom for security deserves neither

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u/Maui_Mine4847 12d ago

I agree, but a camera is better than no camera. false arrests and misconduct can happen with no video too.

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u/beartpc12293 12d ago

No surveillance is much better than surveillance. We are a country of freedom, not dictatorship

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u/Weird_Discipline_69 12d ago

Didn’t your president just forbid American people from listening to Rush in their own homes because they’re a Canadian band with the threat to deport?
Ya… freedom huh? The world laughs

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u/beartpc12293 12d ago

The president can lick my taint. He's a clown. I think I'll play some Rush now