well one human was a small child who fell in by accident, the other was a grown man who was determined to jump into the tiger enclosure-to the point of overpowering a woman who tried to stop him from jumping into the enclosure
That was not Harambe.
You are thinking about Jambo the male Silverback who actively protected a child who fell into the gorilla enclosure in 1986 on Jersey Zoo.
There's actually multiple instances of gorillas helping kids that get in the enclosure, which is why Harambe is so tragic.
He could've been just another gorilla trying to do exactly that, but we gauged his body language, the (unintended) violence the kid was facing from being dragged around, and also male gorillas are more dangerous, so for all we know, we shot an innocent gorilla that was just waiting for the zookeeper to show up.
People who are trained for these situations and animal behaviour made a call that the kid was in a dangerous situation and they had to prevent a potential loss of human life.
Tragic nonetheless, especially for those keepers who cared for the animal, but saying they made the wrong decision just shows a very naive understanding of the situation and training and response keepers have at their disposal in those moments, and how quickly it can change.
But it's not up to it's intentions. Other gorillas ensured there was no harm to the child. In Harambe's case even if the intention of the gorilla was to protect, it wasn't very successful at that and was actually hurting the child.
It's a humancentric point of view. I personally feel that it is fair game when an animal manages to kill a person. We kill so many animals unnecessarily that I find it difficult to feel bad when it goes the other way.
That doesn't mean I don't have empathy. It's just that my empathy is not limited to the human species.
I agree, we live amongst each other. I think humans have a responsibility to be smarter about how we move about the natural world because of our tools and knowledge. Some of it is out of our control but for the most part we have the upper hand, animals are almost purely running on instinct and survival, we should avoid putting them in that position.
This is a false retelling of history. Harambe dragged the kid at high speed through a water filled concrete pool causing several abrasive burns across the kid's body. He definitely harmed the kid.
Harambe probably didn't intend to hurt the child, he was just confused, but humans are much more fragile than gorillas.
Ultimately though I'd rather be upset a gorilla was killed than deal with the fallout of the child being killed. Who knows how much gorilla hate there would be. How much potentially less gorilla conservation. It's an unfortunate thing to have to admit that outside the memes this was the better outcome.
I mean people don't remember Jambo the gorilla that actually did protect a child that fell into their enclosure. The only reason people know about Harambe is because of the memes.
Yeah, this narrative that Harambe wasn't doing anything is straight up wrong. There were multiple witness statements where they all corroborated that Harambe was violently throwing the child around, shoving him to the ground and holding him under water.
There's even a video where you can hear people screaming in fear.
I was about to say, you don't need to believe the statements, there's videos. Harambe was for sure yoinking the kid around and not protecting him at all.
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well one human was a small child who fell in by accident, the other was a grown man who was determined to jump into the tiger enclosure-to the point of overpowering a woman who tried to stop him from jumping into the enclosure