probably is doing a lot of heavy lifting when there's a very clear attempt at trying to trick people into paying you. Believe it or not scams aren't legal
No this is just fraud behavior. We literally know it is because we've seen people get convicted for it before.
Fraud is not marketing no matter how much you try to spin it. This is very clearly getting you to pay money through deceptive practices. That's probably the reason they want a check and not other options. Checks don't have legal recourse like electronic payment methods do unless you want to sue if you were the one that wrote and signed it.
Yeah that's not how fraud works man. You can't just put little fine print that says "oh btw you're entering a legaling binding agreement if you send us money that you don't actually owe us" when the much more noticeable (by design) parts are deliberately framing the mail as an INVOICE.
I work in finance. Fine print isn't a magic get out of jail free card when you're very blatantly trying to be deceptive. That's likely why they want a check. Checks are impossible to dispute with a bank like other payment methods are. There is zero reason to format it like an invoice unless you want people to think it's an invoice. I don't know why you're trying so hard to play defense for very obvious scumbag behaviour.
It doesn't look like an oh btw to me at all. It also looks like a regular shopping cart or an unsubmitted order form, it's only somewhat like an invoice. Nothing on it says invoice or bill like every invoice I've ever seen. I get mail that's not an invoice but someone making whatever assumptions they feel like and not reading anything could also think is an invoice, similar to this post. Like student loan payment suggestions.
You're telling me that it doesn't look like an invoice while it references order numbers, "quoted product", a literal remittance section with instructions on how to pay, and even says order form in GIANT letters. Those are all literally things you see on an invoice or bill.
Yeah, it's ridiculous. Try the medical supply industry out for mind-blowing time.
My wife gets shipped 2 (100ct) boxes of exam gloves per month from a med supply company. Retail they're something like $10. Med insurance pays close to $100 per box for the same thing.
A customer of mine gives me a tube of prescription topical steroids because Medicare sends her a 3-pack every few months. She can’t stop them so she gives it away.
People go without diabetic supplies and others are auto shipped more than they need or dead people continue to get it monthly. Third party suppliers are eating up so much of our money.
100% My wife's managed care company also paid $20/month to rent a small accessibility ramp. I brought it to her care team's attention that they can buy the same ramp online for $50, but they said "Nope. We rent this stuff. This is how we do it."
Also, due to a warehouse shipping error, we were sent $9k (sticker price) worth of diabetes testing supplies that were intended for someone else. I made about a dozen phone calls over a few months in an attempt to get them back to the company who sent them. Somebody should get these things. 6 months later, and that box is still in my house.
Nope. In this case, 4 mil means .004" inches thick. 4 millimeters would be very, very thick gloves. Plastic and rubber films are measured in "mils" each being one one thousandth of an inch.
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u/austin101123 Sep 14 '26
That's making fake invoices and providing no product or service, not the same thing.