I recently bought my first house. A big reason for that is all the upvotes I've saved up these last 10-12 years on reddit by not upvoting comments. Just because they are funny or a great addition to the conversation does not mean I'll upvote it all willy-nilly.
If all anyone does is hand me my food I don't tip. It is literally the bare minimum for them to be considered a business.
I do however tip if you actually provide me a service to go with my meal. Which I think is reasonable.
I don't tip the guy at the auto parts store who brings me a part from the back room. I don't tip hardware store employee who puts together my store pick up order. Just handing me food while I pay with a debit card is no different in my view.
I don't tip the guy at the auto parts store who brings me a part from the back room.
Last time I bought a better, dude said I got a discount if I traded in my old one. I said I didn’t have my wrenches so I’d have to pass. He was like, “I’ve got wrenches” and not only let me borrow them but actually changed the battery himself.
The only one that still irks me is the bartender. If I'm sitting at the bar, sure.. I'm taking up a seat and they're serving me. BUT, if I'm at a bowling alley and walk up to the bar to get a beer, they get it and I just take it back to my alley, am I supposed to tip the bartender still?
Everything else, if I'm waiting in line standing up, there is no tip. It's a very good rule.
Bar service means you're literally picking up the drink yourself. Which means the kind of service you get is quite limited. I'm not saying you should not tip at all but why the hell would you give more than 10% in that situation if you're not high or drunk?
I've always thought tipping the bartender when you go up to a bar was weird. I don't think the expectation is 15-20%. You usually just leave the change or a couple of coins. Maybe a fiver if it's 4+ drinks at once.
The bartender is making the drink and doing actual labor. The servers actually have to tip out the bartenders too for making their tables drinks. They also tip out bussers, food runners, expo, and hosts. Last place I worked all of back of house got a cut.
I worked in the industry for decades and it’s all wack. Servers and bartenders have to tip out so much based on their sales they lose money if they don’t get at least a 10% tip.
I always thought it would be cool if the restaurant would just pay the servers and bartenders a percentage of the sales cause it is kind of like a sales job. Right now the customer pays the commission.
I think people consider a bartender who is mixing complicated drinks or drinks to order being more deserving than a guy who pulls a longneck out of the fridge and opens it for you.
only time I'm tipping in a club or bar is if the bartender gets me first despite a queue. They aren't providing me ANY service, I can pour my own drink ffs.
Do the math yourself if you are not the waiter I expect you to be. 50 might be only at high end places, but 30+ is very achievable and probably more than the job is worth. Capitalism would show you the correct value if you let it.
Not a great rule tbh. You stand at a bar to get a drink. I tip $1 for every drink I order at a bar. If it’s an expensive cocktail (which I don’t order) I might consider giving $2. At a cafe I will always tip $1 for any espresso based drink (and honestly I’ll do it for drip too, just cause). Other than that it’s gotta be discretionary I guess.
At the end of the day I think most people agree that tipping culture has reached critical mass. I don’t get upset by it because at the end of the day this is exactly what the ruling class wants us to get upset with each other about.
You aren’t standing as you are being served though. If you stand to pay at the counter but are seated for the rest of the time (which diners tend to do) then you still tip
Places like that I always leave cash for a tip, that wait it actually goes to the waiter/waitress that served me instead of a pool where the manager can take a cut then divide it among the staff after the fact
It's more about ordering standing up or not, and whether you have to get any of the food yourself. At Waffle House, you sit down, order, and everything is brought to you before you are done, so it's full service, and you should tip. If I have to pay standing up, no tip. If I have to get my own food or drinks, no tip.
I actually disagree. I’m all against tipping culture but I’m a chef. My wife is in front of house. So I kinda have to leave 20% every single time no matter where. But to be honest with you I’m a lot more comfortable leaving that 20% no matter what if I’m standing. Because that means it’s going to the people who are making what I ordered. Not to the person who brought it to me.
And I’m sorry dude but as a chef, we need that money way more than the servers do. At most places, the pay gap between BoH and FoH is insane, even when the FoH staff make $2 an hour, annually they make way more. I’m not mad about it. I chose my career. I’m just saying.
This is per my wife. In busy tourist areas or nicer restaurants, serving comes with a “fuck it I’ll make $300 tomorrow” and spend it all today mentality. They are really bad at saving. So they make $60-85k / year (depends on location) but they say they don’t make shit. Because some days it’s slow. And they don’t save any during busy season / days. This does not apply to your average restaurant, just the nicer ones or the ones in touristy areas. That AND (also per my wife) if you say you don’t make shit, people will be guilted into tipping more. It’s psychological warfare to reference your $2 an hour wage at a really nice restaurant. Because if your bill is $120 and you tip 20%, that’s $24. $24 times 4 tables at a time = $96. Assume each table stays for 2 hours. That’s $48 + $2 in hourly pay. $50 an hour.
At my last restaurant in Charleston WV, I heard servers say if they didn’t make $200, it wasn’t worth their time to come in. Mind you, that’s what I made from a 10 hour shift, as the highest paid BoH hourly employee, they worked 5. And they would call off because “it’s a nice day today”. That level of financial power perplexes me. They don’t need more money lol (at nicer restaurants). Now I work in CA, where server hourly is $18 plus the expected tipping culture. And I’ve been told that they make $85k. Even with business completely dying during the winter.
As customer I genuinely do not care what anyone in the establishment makes as an income, the same way I don't care what anyone at Ace Hardware makes. It is simply not within my purview. I come in to buy a product at the advertised price. Everything else is between the business and their employees.
And I’m sorry dude but as a chef, we need that money way more than the servers do. At most places, the pay gap between BoH and FoH is insane, even when the FoH staff make $2 an hour, annually they make way more.
This is why, ideally, I'm against tipping at all and think it should be illegal. It's a totally unfair system that absolutely fucks the people who actually have a real skill (making food). I still tip at full-service restaurants, though, but I'm realizing more and more that the guilt-tripping over tipping is just super scummy, and people shouldn't feel ashamed not to pay more money than they have to for things.
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u/robilco 11d ago
Looks like you are standing…. As a rule, never tip if you are standing