r/mildyinteresting • • May 05 '26

humankind hiccups 😅 This is plain cruel...

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u/EgregiousFTA May 06 '26 edited May 06 '26

Every day I learn a new reason why our legal system is a fraud

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u/chefdeit May 06 '26

Correct. My dad was tasked to remodel some apartments with lead paint that the landlord company didn't tell him about nor issued remotely adequate PPE's, and

(1) there was mandatory arbitration clause i.e. matter had to go in front of some retired judge on THEIR payroll not a court, and

(2) the LLC company giving the work was a legally separate entity from the one collecting rent which too was separate from one owning the real estate. I.e. there was a complex corporate structure set up that was costly to pierce, designed specifically so they could just bankrupt and sever the LLC "tentacle" that was being sued without touching the capital or revenue stream.

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u/Walshy231231 May 09 '26 edited May 09 '26

You reminded me of why actors don’t often ask for a percentage cut of their movie profits anymore, and take a fixed number instead

The short of it is that big Hollywood company will make a new company for the movie (Warner Bro.s creates Harry Potter Production co.), legally entirely separate, which then borrows money and IP from the big Hollywood company at whatever rates the big Hollywood company dictates (HPP co. borrows $200M and a kid with glasses from Warner Bro.s). The little pop-up company then uses that money and IP to make the movie (HPP co. makes the movie). The movie makes money, that little company gets paid, but oh no, now has to pay back the big Hollywood company at a crazy high price (HPP co. makes a tidy $1B profit off “HP and the Magical Macguffin”, but now owes Warner Bro.s $10B for the initial loan and IP use); who could have possibly guessed that would happen? So now that little company pays back the big Hollywood company, says “we don’t have the funds to pay anyone else anything”, goes bankrupt, and disappears (HPP co. pays everything it has back to Warner Bro.s and so can’t pay anyone else, then gets consumed back into Warner Bro.s from whence it came).

When this scheme (which is today still legally run on the regular) first popped up, some big name actors got totally screwed and paid nothing for movies and performances that went down as some of the greatest ever

ETA: on paper, Star Wars: Return of the Jedi made no money; a complete flop. As such, David Prowse, the guy inside the Darth Vader suit, got paid nothing for his role, as he had negotiated a percentage of the profits of the movie.

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u/chefdeit May 09 '26

Yes, great analogy. I've heard of this with the movies but not at the level of detail you provided.

Yes, "movie was bankrupt" and "movie was the most profitable film in history" can both be true b/c the first one is talking about the company making the movies and paying the actors (incl any profit sharing) and the 2nd one owns distribution rights and profits.

Actors still want a % of movie gross but from the real accounting, the distribution revenue. And some A-listers get that. But yeah, most have to settle for fixed amounts.

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u/HeQiulin May 06 '26

I watched the series Leverage: Redemption and in one of the episodes, they try to trap a judge for bribery and apparently it’s very difficult to commit a crime of bribery as a sitting judge because of all the loopholes. It’s messed up

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u/RyanNick86 May 06 '26

I simply watched the actual Supreme Court Justices to learn that.

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u/Driller_Happy May 07 '26

One could simply just observe Clarence Thomas

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u/RosieTheRedReddit May 08 '26

Yes, listen to the podcast "5 to 4" especially the episode on "Snyder v United States." In that case the court ruled that a gratuity (meaning a gift after the fact) is not a bribe as long as there was no agreement in advance. 🤦🏼‍♀️

Also the episode on "McDonnell v United States" where the former governor of Virginia was exonerated of his conviction of bribery because the bribes were just a "routine courtesy."

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u/Wandering_Oblivious May 06 '26

It's a legal system, not a justice system

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u/EgregiousFTA May 06 '26

I guess, but it should be both

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u/TrickyHurry9020 May 08 '26

It's fucking hilarious when people in my country (Italy) say that things like these don't happen in other countries like the USA, rotfl