r/morrissey • • 13h ago

"He is not a leader. He is vermin."

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u/Paninaro_1979 13h ago

"You're Not The One For Me, Fatty".

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u/Apple2727 13h ago

You’re not the one for me, ratty

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u/TheGorgeousJR 13h ago

Glad to hear him say something about politics that I can wholeheartedly agree with again.

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u/DjScenester 12h ago

He actually has message “Trump Will Kill America” etched into the run-out groove of the vinyl he released almost a decade ago lol

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u/pooflaps50 12h ago

Morrissey has always been pro gay, pro women, anti royalist, anti Thatcher, and an animal loving vegetarian.

You are of course well within your rights to disagree with all that but seems odd you’d also be anti trump also

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u/Blametheorangejuice 11h ago

For someone who is often quite poetic in his lyrics, he is rather marble mouthed when he gives interviews. I think some of it is his desire to get people worked up, but I also just think he has no need or desire to speak clearly about politics, so he gives a few statements and moves on. He doesn’t provide, or seem to want to provide, any nuance, and that’s what gets him in trouble.

The punk-style provocateur can’t exist in the era of thirty-second attention spans and internet karma.

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u/TheGorgeousJR 12h ago

The operative word was ‘again’ you pillock.

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u/pooflaps50 12h ago

I can only assume the JR in your username stands for Joachim von Ribbentrop. He didn’t look particularly gorgeous to me however

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u/CMHex 12h ago

You are conveniently ignoring his flirtation with the far-right, Trump not included

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u/yOpinion 8h ago

Please explain Morrissey's "flirtation" with the far-right.

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u/Too0ldm8 8h ago

I believe he’s made anti mass immigration remarks in the past, these days being sceptical of immigration allegedley makes you far right

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u/malonine 2h ago

I hate to use the term "slippery slope" but the Trump administration's "skepticism of immigration" has led to a lawless army of thugs shooting and kidnapping people and illegally deporting American citizens. So Moz is right in his appraisal of Trump. But the romanticization of "days gone by", in the the US or UK, can make certain brown folks like me uneasy.

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u/burns3016 2h ago

Some say that, but it doesnt make it true.

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u/PotentialMud6570 1h ago

The goalposts about supporting the only democracy in the Middle East has also changed.

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u/GazelleIntelligent89 7h ago

Those opinions do make you far right on places like Reddit sadly despite it being the common sense opinion of most people in the UK.

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u/Too0ldm8 7h ago

There’s a massive nuance in this topic and people increasinglytreat these things in a gamified binary way, much like our friends in the US

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u/PotentialMud6570 1h ago

100% (and in the US).

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u/pooflaps50 8h ago

I think it started when he tried to get Madness fans onside during a festival years ago by coming onstage with a Union Jack. But they mainly threw things at him and called him a queer.

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u/Phoenix_Kerman 10h ago

is that not a product the left right discourse over some things in the uk not being represented accurately by the political parties

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u/dalliahflower 12h ago

His comments about Keven spacey weren’t cool. He was victim blaming.

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u/pooflaps50 11h ago

They were absolutely bang on. Spacey was innocent and proven to be so.

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u/dalliahflower 11h ago edited 11h ago

Spacey reached an out-of-court, confidential settlement with three men who had filed High Court. At the time, Moz would not have known he was “innocent” and he was speaking about how he actually feels about SA. The comments weren’t specific to Spacey. We need to encourage ppl to speak up. He was also good friends w R Brand

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u/pooflaps50 11h ago

Spacey is innocent. You might like him to be in jail anyway but good luck with that. We can’t just lock people away like we are in Nazi Germany.

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u/dalliahflower 11h ago edited 11h ago

That’s not the point! He made generic comments beforehand with his beliefs. I’m not going to argue with you. I don’t care enough about your love of Spacey and not my point about the comments made.

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u/pooflaps50 11h ago edited 11h ago

Not caring about sexual abuse is a pretty bad look

Wow you retrospectively changed your comment. Jeez that’s tragic. Just own what you originally said

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u/freakishgnar 9h ago

Wow, that was absolutely TEXTBOOK gaslighting.

*slow clap*

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u/OkSatisfaction5963 10h ago

Unless you are brown in the US and get put in a concentration camp

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u/pooflaps50 10h ago

Hardly something to celebrate

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u/OkSatisfaction5963 10h ago

Who's celebrating? My father was in a concentration camp.

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u/pooflaps50 9h ago

Wow. Are you posting from an old peoples home?

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u/burns3016 2h ago

What? For what?

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u/YSOSEXI 6h ago

Morrisey is also a fucking Diva, but not in a good way...

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u/makerelax 6h ago

That's a very selective list

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u/ReporterFeisty4619 4h ago

The fact that he doesn’t tick your “pro uncontrolled immigration” box doesn’t make him a bad person.

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u/pooflaps50 5h ago

Didn’t stop Shindler.

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u/Altruistic_Trade_264 2h ago

You took the words right out of my mouth.

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u/flesh_crucifix 11h ago

This is far from the first time he’s said something like this but people would rather stick to their caricature of him.

He even praised Bernie at one of his shows back in 2016.

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u/captain_strain 1h ago

I didn't know that, thats pretty cool

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u/Danieljack1414 13h ago

The kind people have a wonderful dream…

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u/jenny_dreadful 11h ago

The only comments I can recall him making about American politics have always been pro-Democratic Party/pro-left wing and don’t resemble the kinds of remarks he makes about UK politics. I think he compartmentalizes.

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u/777Danzig 12h ago

Well he’s not wrong this time

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u/Cjv2c 12h ago

Exactly 💯 I'm in central Ohio and tRUMP is an evil fascist terrorist war-criminal.

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u/CuttinThruTheCRAP 7h ago

Oddly everyone in the world knows this to be true - yet no one does anything about it - Why?

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u/LobsterKris 6h ago

Because all the checks and balances of power are also corrupt. People will only riot when sufficient amount of them are without food, but that's pretty covered for a modern society, if they wanted to they could feed us all, and with Ai and mentions of ubi and a free smartphone for everyone to keep us deviding each other.

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u/carlitos_macarena 5h ago

Citizens United

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u/Rasples1998 11h ago

"he grabs at everything like a little child".

You mean a rapist who commits sexual assault?

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u/Tea-Jay-Dogville 9h ago

This is the first time for a long time that I've agreed with something Morrissey's had to say

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u/BlackShuck64 8h ago

Even a stopped clock....

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u/finknstein 7h ago

There are many things he’s said that I don’t agree with, but completely agree with this.

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u/Subpop43 6h ago

News flash! They’re all bad

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u/vibeyjohn 5h ago

And I heard he makes only horrible political statements. Guess it’s false

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u/Aeysir69 5h ago

Dear gods I’m agreeing with Morrissey?! Some please turn the heating back on in hell.

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u/OhMy-Really 3h ago

MAGA voters clearly don’t see it this way.

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u/RiotDontDiet 42m ago

First intelligent thing he's said in a long time.

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u/Mountain-Break-6383 13h ago

I honestly wouldnt have been surprised if he was a trump supporter at this point but hey i guess he’s sane about something after all

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u/NoLibrarian5149 12h ago

Back around that idiots first term, his band wore anti-Trump shirts onstage. He also said if he could push a button and the man would drop over, he would push it.

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u/Blametheorangejuice 11h ago

Dude got a visit from the Secret Service during Trump’s first term. It is pretty clear he never liked him.

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u/bbeeebb 7h ago

Fk off

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u/mankytoes 12h ago

He does seem to prefer generally being negative, except about that crazy Muslim woman.

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u/pooflaps50 4h ago

Owen Jones?

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u/CapitalPin2658 12h ago

Funny thing is when I worked at a butcher shop, most of the employees like the smiths and play them at work. I told them, you that morrissey would totally hate us

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u/ReporterFeisty4619 4h ago

Why would he have hated butcher shop employees?

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u/Sudden_Onions 4h ago

He's quite a vocal opponent of meat...

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u/ReporterFeisty4619 4h ago

Well, yes. But I always thought his ire was directed more at those who chose to eat it.

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u/some___pulp 11h ago

Very accurate statement.

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u/Time-Ad-7374 12h ago

💯 I agree with Morrissey 🥰

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u/Significant-Board517 7h ago

Well said by Morrissey

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u/stearrow 6h ago

Hey, a broken clock is still right twice a day.

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u/jodrell 5h ago

Stopped clocks…

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u/Aware_Albatross_4323 3h ago

Exactly. Steven is one to talk.

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u/Amazing-Mud-5119 12h ago

this was like a decade ago, he’s probably changed his views on trump because he’s a contrarian who would eat his own shit if the “establishment” told him not to.

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u/IssueHealthy 11h ago

I would agree but trump is the establishment now so he probably still feels this way

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u/Ok-Cauliflower-5221 9h ago

in america but the british establishment is probably mostly anti trump

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u/Savings-Dig3885 2h ago

'Insane policies' wow, returning to relative normalcy is 'insane' huh

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u/WobblyEgg2025 7h ago

Which insane right wing policies are you referring to?

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u/[deleted] 11h ago

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u/Argythebilly 10h ago

Morrissey has spent the last 40 years saying whatever isn't popular from Smiths debut on

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u/simonsghostcouk 11h ago

You think Morrissey says things to be popular? Have you not been following him long?

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u/simonsghostcouk 11h ago

And all the other comments he's made over the years? You think they've made him popular? He's not being played much partly because of his comments. I don't agree with much of what he says nowadays, but I don't think he's saying anything because he thinks it'll sell more records.

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u/dalliahflower 11h ago

Good for you.

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u/OneUsed6198 11h ago

Been a while since we agreed on something me and Moz. This is nice.

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u/Putrid_Avocado_1172 7h ago

Extremely rare morrissey w

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u/mirrorball55 12h ago

A stopped clock is at least right twice a day…

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u/Bitmush- 12h ago

Unless it’s a sundial.

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u/ASAP-Robbie 12h ago

If a sundial has stopped we’ve got bigger problems than the time

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u/mirrorball55 11h ago

Every day is like sundial.

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u/PomegranateWinter851 10h ago

Too right wing for Morrissey takes some doing.

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u/ReporterFeisty4619 4h ago

He’s very much a traditional left-winger in his general outlook, and not being in favour of mass immigration doesn’t make someone “right wing”. Sorry if that’s all a bit too complex for you.

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u/PomegranateWinter851 2h ago

Early in his career, Morrissey was outspoken on the left, railing against Thatcherism, institutional authority and the royal family. Over the subsequent decades, his public positions have moved sharply right. Driving that shift is a one-dimensional and distorted idea of traditional English working-class identity. That idea appears to have fed his loud opposition to mass immigration, multiculturalism and globalisation, all of which he sees as threats to a mythical culture that he claims is being lost.

His politics now includes open support for far-right parties such as For Britain, and opining about the right wing dog whistles of political correctness, diversity initiatives and cancel culture. He is evidently a populist, right-wing nationalist.

I will not rise to puerile insults as 'Sorry if that’s all a bit too complex for you.'

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u/Big_Telephone_5061 8h ago

The worst person you know just made a great point

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u/Damoet 6h ago

Who cares what Morrisey or any ‘entertainer’ thinks. Stay in your lane…

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u/nIcAutOr 3h ago

Uh, no. That’s not how music works.

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u/artfellow 12h ago

What country is Albrech Dora from?

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u/TheSadPhilosopher 10h ago

My goat Moz.

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u/chicoluxury 10h ago

Our fearless leader

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u/Suspicious_Test1164 6h ago

Well I’m afraid, it doesn’t make me smile

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u/DynestraKittenface 5h ago

This guy has 18 politically opposing views. I enjoy maybe 2 of them? I have to extrapolate that he’s only out for himself and has no empathy - but that sometimes that position tallies with something decent

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u/_nitram_73 5h ago

He's dead right.

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u/frostonwindowpane 5h ago

Only good with Marr

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u/Interesting_Size_947 11h ago

Morrissey is not a concerned citizen, he just wants attention. Easy enough, criticize the most unpopular man in the world

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u/Plumb789 10h ago

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

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u/pal__ryan 3h ago

I feel like Moz n Trump are lowkey kinda similar 😶

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u/randle_mcmurphy_ 12h ago

At least he isn’t threatening my job over not taking a useless shot 🤷‍♂️

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u/VictorVaughan 11h ago

Along with many other things, this era will be known as the time that the ignorant blowhard of every household thought they had gained all the knowledge of medical school without having gone

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u/randle_mcmurphy_ 4h ago

Yet everyone who took the jab got Covid anyway. And at the time my job was threatened I had already had covid and beat it before a “vax” even existed. You don’t need med school to know it was bullshit.

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u/ExcuseAdept827 8h ago

One shit declares a bigger shit is deffo a shit 🤣

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u/JustYouTryItLad 1h ago

He's just more upfront about his narcissism than other world leaders. Others hide it behind closed doors and facades, he's just bullish about it.