Official Discussion - Primetime [SPOILERS]

[u/LiteraryBoner]

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Primetime

Summary

In 2006, To Catch a Predator host Chris Hansen sets out to make television history.

Director Lance Oppenheim

Writer Ajon Singh

Cast

• Robert Pattinson as Chris Hansen
• Merritt Wever
• Anna Faris
• Skyler Gisondo as Dan Plumb
• Bokeem Woodbine
• Matthew Maher as Xavier Von Erck
• Phoebe Bridgers as Del

Rotten Tomatoes: 90%

Metacritic: 78

VOD / Release In theaters — September 25, 2026

Trailer Official Trailer

[u/mikeyfreshh]

This world is full of weirdos, lunatics, and sociopaths. I hope Robert Pattinson has a chance to play all of them. He has like a dozen of the funniest line deliveries I've ever heard, but his physical performance really shines here. I was completely blown away by the way he spits out mouthwash, unrolls a fruit roll up, or unflips a flip phone.

[u/LiteraryBoner → u/mikeyfreshh]

The way he gets upset at the vending machine then calls the number and says, "This is Chris Hansen with Dateline NBC..."

Like, please tell me that actually happened lmao.

[u/ConstantineTheFrog → u/LiteraryBoner]

Also him answering the phone with “This is Chris Hansen” and his wife saying “I know…” Cracked me up.

[u/control_09 → u/ConstantineTheFrog]

Anna Faris was so good at being completely uncomfortable with him.

[u/uncanny_mac → u/control_09]

Was in for so little time but did great. Amazing feet acting

[u/whydoesgodhateus → u/ConstantineTheFrog]

Might have been my favorite part of the movie. I was dyin'

[u/mikeyfreshh → u/LiteraryBoner]

I get the sense that Chris Hansen always introduces himself as "Chris Hansen with Dateline NBC", regardless of how mundane the situation. You can look up videos of his Cameo account where he starts the videos by saying "happy birthday" or whatever and then the next 2 minutes of the video is basically an ad for whatever he was working on at the time. This depiction of Chris Hansen as a character is supposedly based on that, which I find both very funny and extremely informative.

[u/jack_salmon → u/mikeyfreshh]

Kat Tenbarge, another former NBC journalist, wrote a piece on him years (decades?) after he left NBC and said that his email was ChrisHansenNBC@gmail. So, yes he definitely does lol.

[u/MeadowmuffinReborn → u/mikeyfreshh]

"Bob Vance, Vance Refrigeration"

[u/Puppetmaster858 → u/LiteraryBoner]

There is no way that actually happened but it is hilarious and adding stuff like that to movie is a great decision

[u/UpsideTurtles → u/Puppetmaster858]

yeah it’s an amazing characterization technique for the audience to better get who the character is

[u/Whovian45810 → u/LiteraryBoner]

For everyone else, it's a minor inconvenience to get something stuck in a vending machine.

To Chris Hansen, getting something stuck in a vending machine is a major inconvenience.

There's also a thing I noticed how Hansen got a thing for sweets, at one point he eats a Fruit Roll-Ups in his dressing room or on break while getting a phone call.

[u/woolfonmynoggin → u/Whovian45810]

I think it was a stand in for coke but they didn’t want to get sued

[u/saerra_sea_nya → u/mikeyfreshh]

Skylar stole the show but I just have high expectations for Pattinson.

[u/mikeyfreshh → u/saerra_sea_nya]

He's great too. The scene where he just starts doing an impression of Pattinson as Hansen might be the hardest I laughed in a movie where I laughed a lot

[u/UpsideTurtles → u/mikeyfreshh]

literally did the sit up meme when that shit happened. so good so funny

[u/chrysothronos → u/mikeyfreshh]

honestly i read it much more seriously, almost like a scene of possession

[u/mikeyfreshh → u/chrysothronos]

My serious read of that scene is that Dan is torn about whether or not he wants to become a Chris Hansen type figure. A few minutes earlier, there was the scene where Hansen gave him the bracelet, symbolically offering to take him under his wing and forging a path where Dan could become similarly successful.

But Dan also understands the ethical quandary of this type of show. He's been exploited personally, he's seen the way the predators are exploited (though he seems a bit conflicted on whether that exploitation is morally permissible justice), and he's seen Hansen start to crack from all of the pressure of that success. This scene is really where he flirts with the dark side, feels it's power, and then ultimately rejects it when he returns the bracelet to Chris.

A lot of that stuff is undercut and overshadowed by the humor in this scene. That's a recurring flaw throughout the movie and I think a lot of the moral complexity and heavy themes of the film are pushed aside for laughs.

[u/chrysothronos → u/mikeyfreshh]

see, a lot of people are saying it's "funny" but i just do not think the movie is as deliberately funny as people are saying it is. i read a lot of it as perhaps satirical but very serious — like sure the predator was weird but the sense of dan putting on chris, dan emulating him after that story simply felt much more serious in tone to me. that dan was putting on chris, that he was slipping into it felt very, deeply, hugely serious in tone.

[u/princevince1113 → u/chrysothronos]

I heard some laughs at weird times in the theaters, like at the part where Dan watches his own scene on TV and has to hide his discomfort. I don't think it was meant to be humorous but people don't know how to sit with the discomfort the scene is meant to evoke and laugh it off instead

[u/tracygee → u/mikeyfreshh]

That was Skyler’s idea! He came up with it and asked Rob if he’d read Skyler’s lines from the script in Chris Hansen’s voice so he could learn it that way and try to imitate it. Rob thought it was hilarious and was all for it. lol

[u/Whovian45810 → u/mikeyfreshh]

I love how when Hansen is lying on his hotel room and we see him watching Lost with a blank stare, the imagery of the Lost episode as he's trying to figure out what can he do to outdo Lost it perfectly captures how unhinged and volatile he is.

[u/mikeyfreshh → u/Whovian45810]

The network exec calling him and asking how he's going to compete with polar bears really highlighted the absurdity of the whole situation

[u/BelonyInMyLeftPocket → u/mikeyfreshh]

It may not do Beggars numbers but that scene with him slowly pointing his finger gun at Decoy Dan's crotch may be his next meme

[u/mikeyfreshh → u/BelonyInMyLeftPocket]

That's gonna be an all-time gif when it hits the internet

[u/go_out_stay_home → u/BelonyInMyLeftPocket]

”co…ck…”

[u/onlyididntsayfudge → u/mikeyfreshh]

The mouthwash scene took me by surprise and got a good laugh outta me. I can’t wait for that gif. This movie is filled with gif potential.

[u/Able_Advertising_371 → u/mikeyfreshh]

Pattinson could’ve went the money route in terms of movie roles after his early career but he keeps picking good movies and roles

[u/mikeyfreshh → u/Able_Advertising_371]

The crazy part is that he still does get a bunch of roles where he gets paid. He's fucking Batman. Good for him managing that balance and using his big paydays to fund his weird little freak projects

[u/Advanced_Cabinet8939]

Everyone will talk about Robert, but Skylar Gisondo was fucking excellent.

[u/ThnderGunExprs → u/Advanced_Cabinet8939]

Skylar really blew me away, standing up scene for scene with Pattinson in this movie was an incredibly difficult task

[u/goldberry-fey → u/ThnderGunExprs]

I thought Merritt Wever was incredible too. Never seen her work before but having worked in the film industry she nailed that persona so well. I love that she always had this sweet, saccharine tone—kind of like a mom, even though as Hansen points out she has no kids of her own. The scene where she was reprimanding him on the floor was so great because it’s the only time she really loses her cool and even then she’s so controlled.

[u/ArtTheClown78 → u/goldberry-fey]

^^^Merritt never disappoints. I feel like if she brings the best out of everyone because everyone knows she always brings her A game.

[u/ThnderGunExprs → u/goldberry-fey]

She's great in Severance even though it's not the biggest role

[u/thesagenibba → u/goldberry-fey]

the way her tone of voice never changes except for that one scene where she tries to get hansen to "get his shit together", which even then, was whisper-yelling, was exceptional. her ability to portray herself as a calm, wise and highly competent person who has to literally clean up hansen and the show's mess had me gripped. not to mention that she is a primary player in contributing to the destruction.

[u/-Sp0iledmilk- → u/ThnderGunExprs]

I could see an outside chance for a nomination for him next season. He really was the highlight here

[u/woolfonmynoggin → u/-Sp0iledmilk-]

It would be very fitting for the role if he won a SAG award lol

[u/Whovian45810 → u/Advanced_Cabinet8939]

Skyler Gisondo's Dan is the lamb as Robert Pattinson's Hansen is the wolf like prey and predator.

The boyish yet aspiring attitude of a young actor trying to make his name contrast to the volatile and erratic television veteran makes a very great dynamic to watch on screen.

Dan and Hansen playing baseball as Hansen recounts his India story amplified their characters so well that it's even reflected in their attires: Dan wears bright and dynamic shirts while Hansen wears dark and subdued suits.

[u/theredditoro → u/Advanced_Cabinet8939]

He was terrific - Rent at the end was chilling

[u/jack_salmon → u/Advanced_Cabinet8939]

Respect for Merritt Weaver too. She was amazing.

[u/k2_electric_boogaloo → u/jack_salmon]

She was great. The gum chewing almost killed me.

[u/ArcticLeet → u/Advanced_Cabinet8939]

If you ask a friend he was great, but if you ask a random he was just on screen for a couple of seconds.

[u/OKC2023champs → u/Advanced_Cabinet8939]

He was the best part of the film and his character the most interesting

[u/danvan177 → u/Advanced_Cabinet8939]

I feel like he was almost more of the main character

[u/l_Banned_l → u/Advanced_Cabinet8939]

he earned that SAG card

[u/thecardexpert → u/Advanced_Cabinet8939]

When he switched voices I was in awe

[u/whittesc]

Skyler Gisondo going from 13 year old boy voice to Hansen voice and mannerisms was top tier. Incredible movie

[u/surf526 → u/whittesc]

Skylar was excellent

[u/Takagi → u/surf526]

Been rooting for him since Santa Clarita Diet

[u/reddittothegrave]

That scene they did with the Rabbi made me feel so uneasy. Lowkey terrifying honestly.

[u/saerra_sea_nya → u/reddittothegrave]

I was so scared during the India scene.

[u/Whovian45810 → u/saerra_sea_nya]

The juxtaposition of Dan in the place of Hansen recounting his India story was incredible, you get the sense of pure terror and fear on what he saw which culminated into this obsession/need to cleanse evil.

Hansen saw the helplessness and madness in the Indian village's distraught to find the missing children, the lengths humans will go to make sense of tragedy while also inflicting pain on each other.

[u/saerra_sea_nya → u/Whovian45810]

My friend I saw the movie with thought he was supposed to be playing Ted Dansen and I can’t stop laughing.

[u/cinderful → u/Whovian45810]

The best part is . . . it felt like there was a chance that he made all of that shit up. He is an unreliable narrator.

[u/TheMan5991 → u/cinderful]

I was so disappointed to learn that the India thing was made up for the movie. I was like “wait, obviously it wasn’t a demon. I wanna know what was actually happening to those kids” but alas, Chris Hansen never did a missing children investigation in India.

[u/RecommendationFar843 → u/TheMan5991]

I'm guessing this part was a loose retelling of his work in cambodia

[u/Own-Exchange-9310 → u/saerra_sea_nya]

maybe it wasn't intentional, but I love the commentary they did with the whole demon mask / 'ancient evil' thing on how when predators are often caught for their crimes, especially when celebrities are caught, people will make narratives about how these people did these things, not because of any human reason, but because they were in some 'satanic cult' and 'sold their soul' and whatnot, because people refuse to accept that bad people aren't compelled by some demonic force, but are simply just bad fucking people. I'm 1000% overthinking it, but that's just something I thought of lol

[u/VanillaRadonNukaCola → u/Own-Exchange-9310]

I mean that's basically what the hypocritical DA said in his argument in court.

Id wager the themes are related deliberately 

[u/goodthingihavepants → u/Own-Exchange-9310]

no i think you’re spot on, it perfectly captures the satanic panic which was very much still a thing in the 2000s

[u/-Sp0iledmilk- → u/reddittothegrave]

The preceding fallout of the affair combined with the rabbi gave this offputting vibe and it kind of worked.

Like, the whole room felt disgusting.

[u/Whovian45810 → u/-Sp0iledmilk-]

For the first time, Hansen loses his cool and temper as we see him be confronted by someone who challenges him on his tactics and morality.

[u/No_Strike655 → u/Whovian45810]

And didn't just coward out and sit down on command. Honestly fucking perfect reinforcement of him not actually having control 

[u/UpsideTurtles → u/reddittothegrave]

For a moment I was absolutely drawn in like, oh fuck, is he gonna straight up kill him? can Hansen physically stop him? It was really really well done.

[u/reddittothegrave → u/UpsideTurtles]

Yes me too! My mind immediately went too, “holy shit, this dude is about to pull out a weapon or get physical with Hansen.”

[u/warblade7 → u/reddittothegrave]

Its honestly mind blowing that Hansen was never seriously assaulted or targeted doing this show. Even crazier that the show was seen by millions and pedophiles would still get caught offguard by him.

[u/Past_Economist6278 → u/reddittothegrave]

The real David Kay was a lot less threatening lol

[u/go_out_stay_home → u/Past_Economist6278]

true, although I think the arm grab actually happened

[u/Dove_of_Doom]

So, Robert Pattinson's take on Chris Hansen is one of the squirreliest creeps I've ever seen in a movie. The way he recites those explicit online messages to himself as a pre-show mantra is pretty disturbing, and it's literally the last we hear from him. Chris Hansen is ostensibly a journalist, but what exactly is the journalism here? He comes off more like a carnival barker gleefully putting freaks on display for the public to hoot and holler at. By the end of the film, you get the impression that going after predators was Hansen's way of seeking his own level.

[u/Own-Exchange-9310 → u/Dove_of_Doom]

I find it really interesting that it’s not only the last we hear from him, it’s also the very first thing we hear from him. You literally think for a couple seconds in the beginning that he is the predator. The show consumes every aspect of his life, it is his life, “With Dateline NBC” is basically his last name. When his life is rapidly falling apart he uses the show as this coping mechanism; if i finally get that whale, everything in my life will be solved. I love that in the film we don’t see Chris after the show ended, because truly, who is he without it? It’s been 15 years since the show got cancelled and yet he still holds on to it, grips it like a pacifier a toddler has become too attached to. What a fantastic portrayal. Robert is on the run for that Oscar.

[u/goldberry-fey → u/Own-Exchange-9310]

He very much is framed as the real predator. In so many scenes the way he is lurking in the background, watching and waiting to strike. He just isn’t a sex predator but he very much acts like a beast stalking prey.

Idk I think the predator thing opens up an interesting conversation too because predators aren’t evil. A wolf doesn’t kill sheep to be mean. It’s just its nature. I’m not even talking about sex predators here but in general those sort of people who are prone to obsessive and compulsive behavior. Hansen is not a mustache twirling villain here. He is not doing this because he gets enjoyment or fulfillment out of punishing bad guys. He has to do this because it’s his mission, it’s what his entire being is fixated on. He very much feels out of control and on the verge of snapping at any moment. So there is something almost pitiful about him because he’s like a dog chasing a car and just can’t stop.

I wonder also how much of his vigilante persona is just him trying to convince himself this isn’t exploitative trash reality tv and that he is a genuine journalist with integrity, or how much of it he sincerely believed. Or maybe he lied to himself at first about it but then it became his reality.

Fascinating and riveting film, not often do I want to rewatch something instantly but I already want to see it again. I am sure there will be a lot more to appreciate and I am looking forward to all the conversations about it.

[u/FelBanana17 → u/Dove_of_Doom]

Referring to his practicing of line readings (contrary to his denials of being an actor) as mantras is a really interesting way to look at it. He's both trying to get his delivery right and hyping himself up to view these creeps as the manifestation of evil.

[u/newrimmmer93 → u/Dove_of_Doom]

I’d recommend watching the doc predators if you haven’t

[u/Primary_Wear7434 → u/newrimmmer93]

Skeet Hansen though 💀

[u/sbrockLee → u/Dove_of_Doom]

Chris Hansen is ostensibly a journalist, but what exactly is the journalism here? He comes off more like a carnival barker gleefully putting freaks on display for the public to hoot and holler at.

That's basically what To Catch A Predator was. And a lot of us ate it up.

[u/RomeliaHatfield → u/Dove_of_Doom]

And now you understand why the real man was so unfavorable towards this flim. He literally told the guy on the plane and others he sees the television as a pillory.

[u/Marc_Quill → u/RomeliaHatfield]

the real Hansen hating Primetime is probably the best endorsement to go see this film.

[u/LiquefactionAction → u/Marc_Quill]

This is what got me super hyped for the movie (in addition to Lance's pedigree); however, funny enough, I came away thinking this movie was actually downright kind to Chris Hansen in it's portrayal. Nothing he does is ever outright bad, even the "cheating" is like a nothingburger (both in real life and in the movie, notably even NatEnq doesnt care if they can't reel in a bigger story and just sit on it. There's not even tags for him). A lot of the TCAP culpability in being an evil show is shown to be dissiminated amongst producer (Andie) and Xavier as well, reducing Chris's impact.

While it's definitely "Not A Good Look", I think the real Hansen -could- have ran with the punches and been fine. That makes it so fucking funny that the real Hansen has been having meltdowns and trying to prevent it from being released and screened, etc make no sense. It reinforces the IRL guy is a massive pathetic insecure loser: vastly worse than the movie portrays. Much like how in the movie, the NatEnq story is completely meaningless and no one cares yet to Chris, it's the end of the world; the release of this movie is also completely meaningless to Chris but it's still the end of the world to him.

This is a movie that is much more than just an TCAP-Hansen biopic though, it's a meta-narrative on sensationalizing events/news, generating noise against real issues; it's Lance Oppenheimer's Nightcrawler but shown through the lens of a national TV program.

[u/SugarFreeCummiBears]

Law enforcement constantly loving what Hansen is doing and wanting photos with him is a really brilliant way of calling out the type of people that worship him.

[u/Dove_of_Doom → u/SugarFreeCummiBears]

That traffic stop scene with the cop who wrote him a fan letter tells you everything you need to know about the kind of cops who idolize a guy like Chris Hansen.

[u/Steamedcarpet → u/Dove_of_Doom]

I love how they showed this pathetic cop, going from locking himself out of his car to his very lonely Subway dinner with Jared watching over him.

[u/SpiritualAd9102 → u/Steamedcarpet]

Also the irony of Jared watching over them given what eventually happened to him.

[u/OkayTHISIsEpicMeme → u/SpiritualAd9102]

I felt so old when only like 3 people chuckled at Fogle

[u/57809 → u/[deleted]]

• Me if I could only think for 8 seconds about things

[u/ChildTickler69 → u/57809]

Can you genuinely provide a reason, not just a sly Reddit remark. How is being a fan of a person who catches child predators a bad thing?

[u/Shadowguynick → u/ChildTickler69]

There were a lot of people who were fans of the show for fairly benign reasons. For starters it was just good TV in all honesty, it's a fascinating show. But there are people who enjoy this sort of stuff because it indulges a fantasy of justifiable violence they can enact on other people, and when it's the police this can be mildly perturbing. Violence is sometimes necessary for the continued function of society, but to relish in it is to my senses perverse and makes one untrustworthy. Again though, I want to acknowledge this doesn't implicate everyone who enjoyed that show, I think the show was good and entertaining.

[u/TheBibleReloaded → u/[deleted]]

He wasnt catching them, perverted Justice and the police did. He turned it into a spectical, into entertainment where people can indulge in being as vindictive as possible and feel like good people for calling for blood. What he was doing was not justice, it actively hindered justice from being served. It has also led to the phenomenon of modern day predator catching youtube channels that take this brazen exploitation of horrific predation and turns it into a circus where the primary goal is to humiliate and hurt bad people for selfish indulgence in masterbatory schadenfreude. None of this calls for restorative justice or trying to get to the bottom of these issues and how we can help stop people from becoming these predators, its bloodsport. If we were in ancient Rome they'd be thrilled to watch criminals fed to lions for entertainment. It's just a social space where people are free to bay for blood.

[u/LoisMustDie946 → u/TheBibleReloaded]

Not to mention the hysteria they're creating by portraying these scenarios of predators meeting up with kids online as happening all the time, when in fact they're relatively rare. The large majority of people being victimized or trafficked are by close relatives or people they already know. This creates a boogeyman that, for the most part, distracts the public from paying attention to the people actually around them.

I'm not saying it never happens or that nothing should be done about it, but nothing warrants the fear and paranoia our culture has perpetuated, which just lets the real predators slip by undetected.

[u/Animalpoop]

A film about exploitation that wasn't afraid to show the hypocrisy inherent in doing something like that for television. The predators wanted to exploit kids. The production wanted to exploit the predators. The National Inquirer wanted to exploit Chris Hansen. Chris Hansen wanted to exploit everyone. It was fascinating and made me feel sick at the same time.

Rob shines, and as others have pointed out, the physical comedy he has was put to good use here, but mainly in small moments. And I thought Skyler Gisondo was great in this. He really sold the moral dilemma well. A great feel bad time at the movies.

[u/Whovian45810 → u/Animalpoop]

There's this feeling of uneasiness the film captures so well that you can't help but feel sick and suffocating as we're watching this macabre exploitation of people, really hits home about the pursuit of sensationalism.

[u/Green_Moose_9152 → u/Animalpoop]

everyone exploiting each for personal gain in ways that drive each subject to do worse actions then they would have done in the first place

[u/Corgi-Ambitious → u/Green_Moose_9152]

In the scene where Hansen is manipulating Dan and gives him the bracelet, he grabs Dan's wrist the same way the predator grabs Hansen's wrist. They made sure Hansen displayed the same predatory behaviors as the predators Hansen was catching.

[u/UntiedStatMarinCrops → u/Animalpoop]

I know this is seemingly unrelated, but as someone that is in the side of the innocent Palestinians, it’s infuriating to see social media claim that this movie is being made by the Jews to protect pedophiles and that the “establishment” is afraid of Chris Hansen.

They literally allow for no nuance.

[u/AdDiligent7657]

“Are we talking a senator, a president?” got a nice chuckle out of my audience.

[u/TimberMountaineer → u/AdDiligent7657]

I know it’s referencing Trump but it was not lost on me that W would’ve been president at that time and he was from Texas

[u/-Sp0iledmilk- → u/AdDiligent7657]

It was great to see the shock once everyone realized it was a DA. I thought it was a good touch showing how the DA interacted constantly with the police to show how messed up this was.

[u/KingMario05 → u/-Sp0iledmilk-]

Agreed. A nice reminder that, while the show was staged, the raids and arrests it caused weren't. As well as a nod to the fact that the hell Hansen unleashed still came from a place of good intentions.

[u/Pidgeonsmith]

We're gonna see that moment of Chris doing a slow arching point to Dan's crotch and whispering "cock" do some heavy circulation on the web.

[u/Shauncore → u/Pidgeonsmith]

Saw an interview with Gisondo, he said that was the very first scene he filmed on the movie and RPat did that completely improvised.

[u/ScramItVancity → u/Shauncore]

Pattinson deliberately avoided telling the director and some of the cast what he would do or say, as they shot it like a documentary with no shot lists or rehearsals.

[u/JiveHawk → u/ScramItVancity]

So the mirror scene where he does that goofy ass voice mocking his producer was definitely improvised then lol

[u/TheTruckWashChannel → u/JiveHawk]

"YAAAAAA?"

[u/Steamedcarpet → u/ScramItVancity]

Honestly I love the facial reactions in this movie

[u/Own-Exchange-9310 → u/Shauncore]

I love how, in that case, that was basically his first impression of the film lol

[u/JiveHawk → u/Pidgeonsmith]

That followed by Skyler’s line had by far the loudest laugh from my theater. Probably from me too.

[u/ConstantineTheFrog]

The dramatic mouthwash spit was a very unexpected laugh

[u/UpsideTurtles → u/ConstantineTheFrog]

people always laugh at how he says out of pocket things in interviews. he does, and that personality is partly what makes him a great actor. he makes such distinct great choices

[u/boywiththethorn → u/UpsideTurtles]

I'm still wondering why he's blinking so much after saying beggars in the Odyssey

[u/saerra_sea_nya → u/boywiththethorn]

Because he knew he ultimately was also a beggar.

[u/TheGogginator]

The Jared Fogle jumpscare got me.

[u/Trevastation → u/TheGogginator]

It's great as both dark humor to anchor the film in the aughts, as well as showcase the evil in plain sight that is overlooked or permitted away by society, im favor for the evil that is othered, which ultimately TCAP did.

[u/trollfacin → u/TheGogginator]

The officer wanted the Jared special

[u/XxCasxX]

pattinson is on a generational run and disappears into yet another role. skyler gisondo was also fantastic.

really gorgeous and creative shots throughout, and the whole vibe of the movie was very dirty and almost hypnotic. loved it.

[u/tduncs88 → u/XxCasxX]

Haven't seen this movie yet but 2 things.

A) Ever since I saw The Lighthouse, ive decided ill watch ANYTHING with Robert Pattinson in it. He is absolutely one of the best actors in Hollywood today.

B) all the comments about Skyler Gisondo have me super excited. The first thing i remember him in is Santa Clarita Diet. Ever since then ive enjoyed him everytime he pops up.

[u/XxCasxX → u/tduncs88]

absolutely agree on both accounts!! pattinson is pretty much the only actor i will see any movie for just because he's in it - he'll always be amazing to watch and is a total chameloeon.

i saw skyler first in the tv show Psych which was like 15 years ago now, and i'm really happy he's finding success. i wish santa clarita diet lasted longer :( but i'm hyped for the jimmy olsen/gorilla grodd show coming up at least!

[u/talbottron]

"Is Pepsi okay?" had me cackling. Just a generational line read by Pattinson.

Also, the cop reading his letter talking about the important work Predator does while ordering the Jared Special from Subway was diabolical.

[u/UrsusArctos → u/talbottron]

It was unexpectedly funny when Jared popped up. 

[u/gogreengolions]

Are you seeing the polar bears? It’s over

[u/PWN3R_RANGER → u/gogreengolions]

LOST hype will never be recreated. People were foaming at the mouths for the polar bears. I miss those days.

[u/damnyoutuesday → u/PWN3R_RANGER]

As someone who was too young to see Lost (I remember it being on TV, but I was too young to watch), everything about that show just seems batshit crazy

[u/bowl-filled-with-air]

just wanted to say, it is absolutely gorgeous looking, the color, lighting, cinematography, all throughout the movie blew me away.

[u/crentino → u/bowl-filled-with-air]

Same, I think that this is my favorite movie cinematography-wise in a long time. That shot where he's confronting the rabbi, and it slowly puts his face more in shadow until his eyes are going black gave me goosebumps. A lot of absolutely beautiful and haunting shots in this movie.

[u/Own-Exchange-9310 → u/bowl-filled-with-air]

I think my favorite scene visually has to be the one where they're searching the phone number online and there's this like weird glowing red tunnel effect, I love strange shit like that.

[u/Ghosty_Spartan]

Some strong parts especially the ending half which I found to be best part of the movie. But did anyone else find the movie not to be cohesive? Like I felt a lot was going on.

[u/httkbaby11 → u/Ghosty_Spartan]

Yeah I feel like there wasn’t much of a rhythm. Still enjoyed it tho

[u/ncotter → u/httkbaby11]

Ending especially. It just ended so abruptly. I was shocked there wasn’t a little more wrap up.

[u/-Sp0iledmilk- → u/ncotter]

I’m not totally surprised. It was definitely a surreal film.

The ending made me wonder “was it all worth it?” at the end, and that’s a bit what this film was about.

Was all of that trauma worth the SAG card? We’ll never really know. Same goes with exploiting everyone in this voyeuristic way.

[u/BelonyInMyLeftPocket → u/Ghosty_Spartan]

It definitely felt like it was going for vibe over structure.

[u/RomanReignsDaBigDawg → u/Ghosty_Spartan]

Pacing was rough. Felt like 2 and a half hours even though it was less than 2

[u/rabnabombshell → u/RomanReignsDaBigDawg]

Complete opposite for me, I felt like an hour and a half rather than 2

[u/SoloGhosts512]

Don’t get me wrong, Robert Pattinson is amazing and delivers on the hype and then some but Skyler Gisondo might have stole the movie.

[u/Own-Exchange-9310 → u/SoloGhosts512]

I like how Chris Hansen is almost an ominous, controlling force at times rather than a character, all of the subtle manipulation he does and then seeing how it impacts everyone is so interesting.

[u/k2_electric_boogaloo → u/SoloGhosts512]

Skylar was the heart and soul of this movie. Everyone involved in the show keeps justifying the morally grey areas of it all by saying they're catching bad people who want to exploit children, all while they're exploiting this young aspiring actor who's having to continually process the incredibly difficult situations they're putting him in. I had never heard of him but he played the role so incredibly well that my heart actually hurt for his character.

[u/Steamedcarpet → u/k2_electric_boogaloo]

It hit me a bit when his silently crying to himself after the dude wiped his dick out.

Check out Righteous Gemstones on HBO. Skylar is part of the cast and is great in it.

[u/Trevastation]

I love how this film captures the profound evil of the 2000s with the Iraq War in the background but only through the lens of its coverage. The film does a really stellar job at how To Catch a Predator essentially made pedophiles such a public spectactle to hide away America's own evil and be an outlet for their bloodlust.

On an unrelated note, knowing that this film was inspired by Manhunter made it really click for me as Pattinson plays Hansen as a weaselly Will Graham. Hell, even the reveal of Alex Winters as the DA felt a lot like Noonan's reveal/cutaway to the Tooth Fairy's day to day life.

[u/TheNightstroke → u/Trevastation]

One of my favorite background gags was the bumfuck police department of Murphy, Texas, having cardboard cutout targets with Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein's faces taped on top.

[u/Dig-Duglett]

I cackled when the perverted justice guy shrieked as Chris reentered the room

[u/LiteraryBoner]

I thought this was a really interesting movie. It's kind of difficult to really explain to anyone who wasn't around then how crazy impactful To Catch a Predator was. As this movie shows, it just tapped into something so raw in people. The anger and justice and shame and humiliation involved, people loved it. I was in high school when this came out and I was in a Current Events class and our teacher showed us every episode of this as it aired. People not only enjoyed the show, they found it important.

This definitely feels like a movie that people can't wait to misinterpret or judge for not painting Hensen in the greatest light. I loved the grey morality this movie offers, it's not so much about taking Hansen down, it's more about the idea that once you start broadcasting your just acts or your righteous shaming that any purity is immediately tainted. I find it very similar to the conversation that comes up every time you see an influencer filming themselves giving food to the unhoused. The comments are always a battle between, “This person is just exploiting these people in a different way” and “if the outcome is a net positive what's the difference?” There is, of course, no right answer to this but I think this movie does a fantastic job of exploring all the ways these things get in the way of the justice in the end.

It's clear that whether or not Hansen or Plumb believed in what they were doing, in this adaptation I should say, that they were driven by progressing their careers. The final moments say it all, Plumb just happy to have that SAG card. Not to mention lines like, “I covered a child sex slave ring in India. I won an Emmy for it.” And I think, like The Drama, this is a movie that's going to spark conversation about greater good and exploitation and I kind of like that current mode of A24 movies.

I think what really stands out here craft wise are the performances. Not just Robert Pattinson who is on a great run right now and is so purposeful in every line reading, really nailing that direct Hansen cadence, but also Skyler Gisondo and Merritt Weaver doing incredible work here. I think Merritt is such a great actor I loved seeing her bring so much to this. She seems to be the only one not wrestling with the bigger questions, really she just knows her job. She has such a great moment when she's dressing up Decoy Dan for the first time, “Puka shell necklace? No puka shell necklace?” and she gives this massive frown like it ruins the scene. She's a producer through and through. And Gisondo perfectly cast as that wide-eyed dreamer who is a little over exposed to how scary this work is at first.

Overall, I really enjoyed this. So many great little moments that tell the story as well as the narrative like when Hansen doesn't get his treat from the vending machine so he calls the number on the machine and says, “Yes, this is Chris Hansen with Dateline NBC”. It's such a great indicator of both his self importance and his obsession with justice. I'd be interested to know how much of this movie is fabricated or not, but either way the point is not to be a documentary, something Oppenheim usually does and decided specifically not to here. This is a narrative about how broadcasting taints good intentions and this is the natural story to tell it, and I think an extremely relevant theme today where everyone is a content creator, filming themselves annoying service workers or even catfishing pedos and beating them up in public because they can. It's a strange time we live in and Primetime is one of the many stories of how we got here. 8/10 for me.

/r/reviewsbyboner

My Letterboxd

[u/mikeyfreshh → u/LiteraryBoner]

I loved the grey morality this movie offers, it's not so much about taking Hansen down, it's more about the idea that once you start broadcasting your just acts or your righteous shaming that any purity is immediately tainted

The central theme of this movie seems to be the idea of justice vs vanity. How much do you actually want to do the right thing and how much is a performance for the audience? Having seen this, I'm really excited to see that Elizabeth Holmes doc. Nathan Fielder explores a lot of the same themes in his show and Holmes as a great subject for the two of them to cover together.

[u/LiteraryBoner → u/mikeyfreshh]

One great scene in this is the scene on the plane early on. Where Hansen gets stuck next to a guy (Not Terrry O'Quinn apparently) who got bumped up to first class. But the way that guy is, like, so fueled by the anger and righteousness of what Hansen is doing and Hansen can tell he's a little too into it but he doesn't want to upset this clearly volatile man. And that great line after the guy says he should just bleed the pedos, "Well, I think what we do is almost worse." Really incredible writing and acting there.

[u/mikeyfreshh → u/LiteraryBoner]

That was Creed from The Office. I actually had a completely different read of Hansen's reaction though. I thought he was way more flattered and proud than he was concerned. You see that conflict inside of him but I think he walks away from that conversation being more convinced that he's doing the right thing.

[u/LiteraryBoner → u/mikeyfreshh]

I think he got a little uncomfortable when the guy's comments turned to violence, but that it still instilled his righteousness. But Pattinson plays it so well I'm sure we are also doing a lot of intepreting ourselves.

[u/Westtexasbizbot]

“‘I like to suck n fuck.’ Is that New Testament or Old Testament?”

[u/UpsideTurtles]

The kind of second to last scene where they split everything into the recording cameras was really really cool. Thought that could’ve been a cool way to end it, as a final scene. But happy, too, we got a happy ending for the probably most sympathetic “good guy” character in the movie

[u/FunCut6815 → u/UpsideTurtles]

I didn’t find that ending to be happy. Before we even saw if he got his SAG AFTRA, I was thinking that it’s a loss either way after all he’s been through. They kind of hint that he’s reclusive after the show. He couldn’t even answer when that guy asked “are you an actor”. It felt almost like a cruel joke to get his card.

[u/bristow84 → u/FunCut6815]

The actual actor did an interview for the documentary Predators, highly recommend a watch btw, and he didn’t seem all that proud of his role, especially when it came to the Conradt situation.

[u/chrysothronos → u/FunCut6815]

he also has grown a beard atp — deliberately looking older. i felt that spoke to a lot. 

[u/dontforgettopanic]

straight up, the scene after the whipped cream guy whips it out, when skyler sits down and it's only noticable he's crying halfway through the conversation with the producer, that was so interesting.

[u/Own-Exchange-9310 → u/dontforgettopanic]

That scene where Dan is watching his promo on TV with his friends and everyone is laughing while he has to re-experience something as traumatic as that made me feel a uniquely gut-wrenching feeling.

[u/ffbbaarrnnaa → u/Own-Exchange-9310]

Yes its almost everyone is oblivious if he's being exploited in a different way, I guess he also realises it way too late.

[u/cinder-hella → u/dontforgettopanic]

Skyler killed it from start to finish, but that's the scene I keep thinking about. When he shows up for his job to help catch sexual predators and immediately gets sexually assaulted twice (first the producers grabbing him and stripping him the second he walks in the door, and then the whipped cream guy). That was exactly the kind of irony I wanted from this movie.

[u/advicefrog]

This movie was a hate letter to the 2000s and I loved it. I thought the main anchor parts were a little hammy though

[u/Trevastation → u/advicefrog]

I'm guilty of romanticizing the 2000s given I was kid then who filtered it all out as background noise, as with many Zillenials/GenZ. This film really was a sharp wake-up call to just how vile and messed up it was.

[u/EmperorAcinonyx → u/Trevastation]

2000s reality television was extremely fucked up and TCAP was just one show out of so many. very cynical time in media as everyone was realizing that history didn't end with the fall of the berlin wall and that the world was still full of hate and suffering

[u/saerra_sea_nya]

Merritt weaving did amazing. Puka? No puka? Line delivery of the century

[u/GradeDry7908 → u/saerra_sea_nya]

I fucking love her so much. She’s gonna be getting an Oscar someday.

[u/talbottron → u/saerra_sea_nya]

Also some of the best gum chewing I’ve ever seen on screen.

[u/CoolHand1899]

Certainly did not paint Hansen in a good light, but not the villain the trailers and hype seemingly made him out to be. Was he fame hungry? Yes. Did the movie make it clear he felt he was fighting some kind of evil? Also yes. Was he scummy? No doubt. A person can be scummy while also having good intentions/actions.

[u/UrsusArctos → u/CoolHand1899]

I agree. He comes off as a deeply flawed man to me. 

[u/Zantheman22]

Oppenheim has the juice, this makes me even more excited for You Can See Everything. Coming from documentaries, I did not expect his first feature to be so stylized and maximalist. Constant bright neon lighting, extreme close ups, creative mixing of mediums, and letting R Patty just go nuts and make wild choices each scene. Great shit, 9/10

[u/Own-Exchange-9310 → u/Zantheman22]

100% agree, a lot of critics are saying the script is flawed, and even though I get what they mean, that's pretty natural when you're writing your first narrative film. The fact he's just starting at this and already hit the ground running so hard makes me believe Lance is 100% gonna become a cult director in the future.

[u/jobening]

DA Pedo: talks about musicals

Chris, whispering: cock 👉👇

Dan: So yeah anyway, my cock gets super hard like really easy. Maybe you come over and try.

😭😭

[u/ButchAF]

That monster was legit scary

[u/Own-Exchange-9310 → u/ButchAF]

I like how the monster can be seen as both an obvious portrayal of the predators themselves, and also the monster inside Hansen that knows he’s not actually doing any of this with good intentions, it could also be interpreted as the guilt that follows him in his life, whether that guilt be for the show or his family, or both. Such a good visual and I love the practical work.

[u/SpiritualAd9102 → u/Own-Exchange-9310]

I saw it as the monster being the fame he was chasing. When he saw it in India, it wasn’t out of concern for the kids, but knowing that bringing vile stories like this to the US was sensational enough to give him the fame and respect he desired. 

When it retreated into the night at the end, it was him realizing that the suicide meant that it was completely out of his grasp. 

[u/OKC2023champs]

I really wanted to like this more than I did.

I thought the film was all over the place. And I actually preferred the story of Skylar as Dan the most interesting.

It felt like a knock off nightcrawler but we don’t spend enough time with Chris for it to work. And it didn’t lean in to Chris’s grey morals enough for the payoff.

It felt like 3 different movies and stories at times. With Chris / Anna / Dan

While all 3 stories are interesting it didn’t work for me in the same film.

I still did like this film and gave it a positive review but I’m spending more frustrated with it than being happy with it

[u/danvan177 → u/OKC2023champs]

In a movie about Chris Hansen it needed more of Chris Hansen.

[u/ceejnsight]

I love color theory in film, and this movie is art. For a film called Primetime, it's fitting that the director builds the palette around primary colors: blue for Hansen's obsession, red for the naivety of Dan, and yellow for the children. In fact, there's a scene where Andie literally takes off rose colored glasses. But yellow is the color that matters most yet the color we see the least. The rooms where the predators are caught are yellow, and so are the missing-children flyers at the police station. The children are what everyone should be focused on, yet the yellow is almost drowned out by Chris' blue obsession, just as the kids get lost behind the ambitions of the men making the show.

What stood out most to me, though, was the green light. I first noticed it flashing in the background behind Chris as he stood at the window, and my mind immediately went to The Great Gatsby. It shows up again during the rainstorm, and it's most prominent in Chris's final call with his wife, where there's literally a green light flashing across the water.

In Gatsby, the green light across the bay stands for everything Gatsby is reaching for: Daisy, wealth, and the American Dream. Fitzgerald uses it to question whether that dream is real. Gatsby reinvents himself and climbs into the elite, yet the thing he wants most stays out of reach. (SparkNotes has a good breakdown.)

Chris and Decoy Dan are both reaching for greatness in their industries. Chris wants to be taken seriously as a journalist, like Stone. Dan wants to be a real actor. The green light tends to appear when Chris is pushing hardest to keep his dream alive: doing whatever it takes, lying to others and to himself, to land his story. But because we're watching from the future, we know this is a tragedy. The very thing Chris thinks will take him to the next level is what brings him down.

Both of them are reaching for a system that was never built for them to win. Hollywood is full of predatory people, and ironically, Chris uses those same predatory tactics to lure Dan into doing what he wants. The predators are in front of the camera and behind it, and the green light stays just out of reach and out of focus.

[u/SlimShaney8418]

An honest to goodness "enhance" scene in 2026. What a time to be alive

[u/Brilliant_Horse_6614]

saw it last night for the west coast premiere at Beyondfest.

I enjoyed it very much, but it was a little bit of a letdown. More due to my expectations. Especially once I realized it's Lance Oppenheim's first feature film, should have been more of an indicator.

The pacing & character development personally to me was the weakest part. I think we saw Chris and the cast quickly spiral, but the events that led between those didn't really seem to be that impactful and shallow so I found myself wishing there was more suspense or momentum between the major points at which you feel the characters turn.

Chris's character obviously takes a much darker turn, but there was no moment (despite the few that they tried) where it gave me the "oh shit - he's going to spiral" moment.

I will say, the acting performances in this movie might be some of the best I've seen this year. Everyone absolutely crushes it, and Skyler Gisondo specifically deserves a nod for a best supporting nomination. In addition, the editing was really great as well and they did a good job capturing that "2000s" essence.

It feels like a "flavor of Nightcrawler" but if you go in expecting Nightcrawler (like i did) - you will be disappointed.

[u/yung_saucin]

DECOY DAN

[u/Own-Exchange-9310 → u/yung_saucin]

nah, it's more like DECOYY DAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNN

[u/strawberrylipscrub]

The Fergie needledrop at the beginning was crazy.

[u/odetotheblue]

I don’t see anyone mentioning Phoebe Bridgers’s performance yet. Maybe as a big fan I’m biased, but I thought she was excellent and her acting felt natural.

Overall I really enjoyed this film a lot. Maybe top 3 of the year for me so far. It’s complex and visually stunning, doesn’t hold the audience’s hand or tell you what to think.

[u/SugarFreeCummiBears]

I thought this movie was hilarious but my audience either felt uncomfortable to laugh or didn’t get it. I wonder if that’s a common experience for this film?

[u/TacitusKilgore2025 → u/SugarFreeCummiBears]

I had the opposite experience. My audience was laughing at parts that were clearly not intended to be funny. Really hurt the viewing experience

[u/crentino → u/TacitusKilgore2025]

Yeah, my audience was a mixed bag as well. When they got the whale to agree to the call near the end, a woman in front of me yelled out "FUCK YEAH!"

I'm like... do you not understand that the movie is literally critiquing that same visceral sense of justice at the cost of everything else? It was just weird that some people were basically cheering for Chris Hansen through the whole thing.

[u/penskeracin1fan]

Fantastic film. The horror elements were great and made me feel like watching True Detective

[u/Own-Exchange-9310]

I loved this movie a lot, probably more than most people will, here’s my mediocre analysis of a scene in this film (and this film in general) that I wrote on letterboxd for no one to read:

So, so much stuck out to me in this movie, but I think what’s holding on to me the most is a scene near the end where Decoy Dan is having doubts about Hansen’s morals, and he responds by saying something along the lines of:
“It’s either you’re with them (the predators), or you’re with me.” 
I can’t help but feel like our modern culture refuses nuance or a gray area at every chance it gets, and this line kind of represents that. How dare you doubt me, Dan, don’t you know I’m the good guy? We’re fighting an ancient evil. We’re doing what’s never been done before. We’re gonna make television history. We’re gonna be bigger than Lost. Who are you to question my morals? What are you, a predator? You see how this looks, right? 
When we refuse to accept that someone who is flawed, terribly flawed, can still believe in the same cause as we do, can still be against all the things you’re against, or at least most of them, and isn’t in some satanic cult licking a child’s pussy on the Epstein island, but rather right on your television screen, being on you’re ‘side’, being so real, doing all that and still being flawed. When we refuse to accept nuance, who are we to call ourselves progressive? We cannot treat sensationalism like a sermon, we cannot treat performance like power, because if we do, are we really any better than the ‘bad side?’

extra note: I also found the scene where they’re talking about the Texas predator for the first time really interesting because they imply that they don’t actually go and catch every predator they find if it’s not “television-worthy” or if going out and catching them is too inconvenient. They just leave them out in the world, knowing they’re probably just gonna keep doing what they do. So goddamn insane.

[u/SugarFreeCummiBears]

No shortage of Pattinson clips here. The mirror, mouthing “COCK,” plenty more besides what we already had from trailers.

[u/princevince1113]

Underrated bit where Hansen finishes telling his immersive story about encountering the embodiment of evil while investigating child trafficking in India, to explain why he's so singularly driven to catch predators, and Decoy Dan's response is "so the target is an Indian guy?"

[u/FearlessInflation172]

“What would’ve happened if I wasn’t here?” CHILLS

[u/PWN3R_RANGER]

The mouth wash spit technique in the mirror has to be studied for generations. Robert Pattinson must have entered a genuine flow state during that take.

How would he even think of doing that….

[u/ohyeah_mamaman]

Big kudos to Oppenheim for holding the movie past what I think could have been seen as a natural ending with the screens all cutting out and ending it on that stinger with Dan. “Are you an actor?” “Yeah”, is up there with Perfect Blue and “I’m the real thing!”

[u/AlbatrossFew7628]

The London Bridge needle drop was fucking awesome.

[u/NevermoreSalt]

jimmy olsen was actually amazing here

[u/signedtwice22]

If you felt sympathy for the predators during this movie then maybe that’s on you

[u/ohwordlmao → u/signedtwice22]

lmao seriously, i just finished my showing and cannot understand how that is such a huge narrative rn. the movie makes it super clear these guys absolutely suck. its not the main focus of the story because how fucking dumb and boring would it be for a movies main message to be that predators are bad people

[u/WetAndWildOperator]

Robert Pattinson and Skyler Gisondo truly deserve some nominations for their performances in the film. Real good movie but they absolutely raised it to another tier with their acting.

[u/SamisNeat69]

This movie felt like a love letter to boogie nights and nightcrawler and those genres of slime ball characters that I really enjoy.

Chris Hansen doing the wide smile and then mocking his producer absolutely killed me cus it was just so outta no where.

[u/devastationz]

Whatever they did to the colors, lighting, and bloom of this movie needs to be done in significantly more movies.

[u/chriswizardhippie]

I don't much care how they tried to make sexual predators seem sympathetic but it's a very well done movie with coloring, after effects, camera angles.

Also the "There's still good people in the world" and flashing Jared Foggle on screen was a hilarious touch my theater died laughing.

[u/sphinxof1981 → u/chriswizardhippie]

I don't think they made the predators sympathetic at all. The sensationalization of the series and Hansen's pursuit of ratings is a separate issue from whether the predators deserved to be caught.

Like, the problem is that all of this had to be a TV series in order to be done, right? This exact sting process could have taken place behind closed doors by law enforcement, but why is it a TV show? The way it was done says more about the public's interest in humiliation and vengeance than it does about justice.

[u/chriswizardhippie → u/sphinxof1981]

They kind of did though the one predator on arm crutches who was all like "oh I don't get out of the house much. Pretty much see the world online" and then Bill (weird as hell they got Alex Winter to play the infamous assistant DA named Bill by the way) where he was "I just wanted to watch musicals with you" and never initiated anything sexual, actively hung up when Dan started to do stuff sexual egged on by Hansen. Through Dan's character they made these people who are sexual predators seem sympathetic.

Your point is also valid but they were made sympathetic in that way.

[u/Trevastation → u/chriswizardhippie]

The article the film is based on, "Tonight on Dateline NBC: This Man Will Die", also has the similar angle to the DA. More though in how it just lets you sit with the uncomfortability of uncertainty. Because as much as he was talking about sex with who he thought were minors, irl they never did find any actual CSAM at his residence. And everyone who knew Bill was left shocked and without any answers to the man they thought they knew and now had to deal with the sudden revelation and death, because there was no actual arrest, trial, or even investigation. Just the sting and then his death and then the fallout.

[u/therealjgreens]

Ari aster is a producer?!

[u/texascannonball]

Skyler Gisondo deserves leading roles.

[u/Financial-Length5587]

As someone who knows a lot about TCAP they merged a lot of the more famous predators mannerisms or actions into a select few (Cool Whip Cat Guy had the look of another predator from the same sting). And I get why they made a lot of them gay predators (worked well with showing Dan on screen) even though most of them were not.

I liked it and I was glad it wasn’t going in as some Chris Hansen fluff piece (he doesn’t deserve that lol).

[u/feedback37376363636]

The scene of Hansen slowly lowering his finger-fun to Decoy Dan's penis while he's on the phone and mouthing "cock" has serious meme potential

[u/MemeMeOnce]

Every time Xavier spoke, all I could think of was Wade from GTA V...and turns out it is indeed the same actor