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Article James Cameron Congratulates 'Avengers: Endgame' for Besting 'Avatar' as Biggest Movie Ever – Again

https://www.thewrap.com/creative-content/movies/james-cameron-congratulates-avengers-endgame-box-office-again/
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u/hiptones 21h ago

Until Avatar comes back to theaters in 2029 to celebrate the 20th anniversary... and 2034 for the 25th anniversary... and 2039...

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u/SaltyPeter3434 18h ago

Dormammu I've come to bargain

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u/hockeyjmac 21h ago

Bruh that’s way to soon for Avatar to be 20…

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u/robotchicken007 20h ago

You’re not getting older, you’re getting better

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u/KeySecret9184 17h ago

That’s what I tell myself when I wake up in the morning with a stiff neck.

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u/DonmeccaYYZ 7h ago

And “Why does my shoulder hurt this morning??? All I did was go to sleep!”.

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u/robotchicken007 7h ago

This rings so true😂

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u/jimmyslamjam 4h ago

Time to get up

Time to get up now

And let the bones

Crack into place

I look in the mirror

I see an old man

But in my eyes

A young man's face

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u/copperblood 21h ago

Honestly, I'd be so down to watch Avatar again in the theater.

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u/GamingTatertot Steven Spielberg Enthusiast 21h ago

I did when it re-released for Way of Water and again for Fire and Ash.

It's still electric on the big screen.

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u/TheUmbrellaMan1 19h ago

The last battle is amazing. So much going on in the background. In the span of 15 minutes you go from an aerial battle to the forest floor and it's all slick and kinetic. The entire movie's, though largely filmed with virtual cameras, is filmed with grounded camerawork; you won't find a single instance of floaty camera in this; it makes the world feel so real. The filmmaking is amazing from top to bottom.

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u/PaulPaulPaul 21h ago

Still in a league of its own! Never seen anything like it!

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u/TheFeedMachine 6h ago

Avatar is one of the few movies that needs to be re-released so that people can actually rewatch the movie and pull in new audiences. The theater experience is the reason why Avatar is so popular. Watching it on your couch just isn't the same as seeing it in theaters. No one loves Jake Sully as a character. They love seeing Pandora on a big screen and in 3D.

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u/uberJames 20h ago

3D 4DX please! (Motion seats)

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u/racer_24_4evr 20h ago

That would probably beat my first viewing experience, which was with a single headphone on the laptop of the guy next to me in a first year geography lecture whose first words to me were “Dude have you seen Avatar?!”

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u/Icarus1 21h ago

I dont think it has the same staying power though, made a lot of money but surprisingly not that culturally significant because we had already started moving out monoculture when it was released. The first three phases of Marvel movies transcended that, to their credit.

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u/UnderwoodsNipple 21h ago

Oh my fucking god, "it's not culturally relevant" will never die, will it? I swear this shit was started when the first movie was actually in theaters still.

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u/_Middlefinger_ 14h ago

It's the OG 'game of thrones has no rewatchability', even though it's one of the most streamed legacy shows of all time.

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u/TheRealMrMaloonigan 21h ago

Man, everyone can tell you who many of the Avengers heroes are and how they're significant to their universe. You ask ten people on the street to name three characters from Avatar and their motivations or anything about their world and I bet you get blank looks.

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u/GamingTatertot Steven Spielberg Enthusiast 21h ago

Avengers heroes also have the benefit of having, ya know, about 30 movies over the course of 15 years - plus several decades of comic book history too vs. Avatar with 3 movies over the course of about 15 years with a 13 year hiatus in there.

So not sure they're exactly comparable

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u/AnotherCup-O-Noodles 21h ago

Blue guy
Blue girl
Evil short guy.

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u/redvelvetcake42 21h ago

My kid knows the entire starting lineup of the avengers, the guardians of the galaxy and even B tier marvel characters. He doesn't know what any of the Na'vi are or what avatar is. No kid does. That's what people mean when they say it's insignificant culturally. Star wars? My kid knows it. Marvel? Knows it. Avatar? You mean the last Airbender or blue people? Blue people? Then no.

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u/Nullhitter 21h ago

Do you think the average person even knows the name of the main character of Avatar without looking it up? Can they name five characters or even five memorable scenes?

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u/lagunathemoron 21h ago

Seen all these films at least twice each. You're on.

Jake. Spider. Grace

Erm...

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u/GamingTatertot Steven Spielberg Enthusiast 21h ago

Do you think the average person even knows the name of the main character of Avatar without looking it up? Can they name five characters or even five memorable scenes?

I mean...I'd wager the average person couldn't name 5 characters or 5 memorable scenes in most films they've seen. And hell, probably couldn't even name the main character of a lot of films.

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u/Nullhitter 21h ago

But we're talking about culturally significant films and not just some random movie that you watched on a Tuesday night. People who never watched Star Wars can name characters from the movies and even recognize quotes. The same thing with the Avenger films. I've yet to find the average person even remember a memorable scene.

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u/No-Philosopher3248 19h ago

James Cameron makes the same movie every time he puts out ANOTHER Avatar film. Same film, same story. Move on.

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u/Nullhitter 21h ago

Don't worry, Avatar will get released again and this will continue until the end of time.

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u/TeutonJon78 20h ago

It's all just Disney extracting money by pitting fans against each other for "top movie".

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u/Informal_Support1934 18h ago

Yeah, why is this something people put genuinely care into. "Record for most revenue a product earns for its parent company" like it actually matters.

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u/TeutonJon78 4h ago

Because people are lonely and generally communityless so para-social relationships dominate their lives.

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u/berlinbaer 7h ago

they learned from the stan wars on twitter that these days people don't even care about quality anymore, it's more like following your favorite sports team.

like a certain singer can put out an absolute turd of a deluxe edition and their fans will still buy all four variants, just to beat out another singer on the charts.

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u/AlmightyRuler 6h ago

What if every time Cameron re-releases Avatar, Disney re-releases Endgame, just to mess with him, in a 10 year cycle, and 100 years from now, theaters release both movies back to back at Christmas as some kind of weird tradition no one remembers the origins of.

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u/27Yosh 19h ago

They will come to a truce and agree to only re-release together as a double feature

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u/hrdcrnwo 8h ago

Always forget that Avatar is a Disney property now.

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u/Fthill-That-Strides 17h ago

So does Zoe Saldaña pat herself on the back?

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u/GamingTatertot Steven Spielberg Enthusiast 21h ago

Snip snap snip snap!

In all seriousness...curious where Doomsday ends up. Expectations are certainly rising and I could see it being #1 or also somehow missing 2 billion. Who knows!

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u/Torcal4 21h ago

Part of me feels like it won’t beat Endgame.

Endgame was the culmination of 11 years and the big payoff.

Doomsday is just kind of showing up after a string of mostly iffy movies. It might be very good but I don’t think it’ll be the cultural phenomenon that Endgame was.

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u/WillowSmithsBFF 21h ago

Absolutely no way it beats Endgame. Doubt it beats infinity war either. The hype for doomsday just isn’t there like it was for IW/EG.

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u/Howdareme9 21h ago

Nobody expected spiderman to do as well as it did. You’ll be surprised

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u/gizmoglitch 21h ago

Completely different situation. Spidey lives within the MCU while being its own thing. The new BND movie was a payoff to the setup of previous one, and NWH was a payoff to a combination of Tom/Tobey/Andrew's Spidey arcs. There's a generational build up there.

Doomsday by comparison to Infinity/End Game and Tom's Spider-Man movies isn't coming from the same place. It'll still be a financial success, but that's because they're throwing trucks of cash and relying on nostalgia to push their way to the front.

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u/kyuubikid213 20h ago

but that's because they're throwing trucks of cash and relying on nostalgia to push their way to the front.

An interesting sentence to write after saying NWH was a payoff of Tobey and Andrew's Spidey arcs.

Relying on nostalgia seems to be a path to success.

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u/SDRPGLVR 6h ago

Didn't they? Spider-Man is evergreen, like Batman, and the hype leading up to that movie was really strong. The only people I saw at least say they didn't think people were excited were the usual grifter types who are still mad that MJ isn't white.

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u/OogieBoogieJr 21h ago

Remember, kids: If a Redditor says it, you know it’s going to be wrong in spectacular fashion

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u/inosinateVR 21h ago

Wait, doesn’t that mean that it must be right then?

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u/GillGruntFan53 21h ago

Currently tracking to be the first $400 million domestic opening as its floor, but sure

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u/Burgoonius 21h ago

Also broke presale records I thjnk - I literally can’t even get tickets for the first week

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u/cire1184 20h ago

They even got 2 am showings and they are all pretty much sold out except the front row in the Dolby screen near me

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u/Royal-Importance7051 19h ago

If it does open with $400 million on the exact same day that The Force Awakens opened with $250 million 11 years ago, 1.1 billion domestic is basically the floor.

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u/MartyMcBird 19h ago

There's been a LOT of inflation in the past 9 years.

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u/Jykoze 11h ago

It's easily gonna beat Infinity War, it's outpacing every movie ever in pre-sales

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u/rcanhestro 10h ago

it's also releasing at the same time as Dune 3

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u/Familiar-Shoe7905 18h ago

You have no idea what you’re talking about

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u/GamingTatertot Steven Spielberg Enthusiast 21h ago

Perhaps not - but then again this is the first Avengers film (not counting Thunderbolts) in 7 years. First time with Cap. Seeing X-Men again. And a lot of other crazy stuff if leaks are true.

So while it doesn't have the same build-up, I can certainly see it garnering the same type of excitement

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u/AdFluffy3371 20h ago

Brand new day just grossed $500m over Infinity War, the people still crave superhero movies. It will certainly surpass $2b.

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u/GipsyDangerV1 2h ago

I think an aspect your perspective is missing is the fact that doomsday is almost being made to act as a new jumping on point for people who have been checked out because of those mostly iffy movies, and considering the last three theatrical releases from the MCU were actually good movies and well received, that just adds to that excitement to potentially come back in here. 

It seems Marvel Studios are doing the exact same thing that the actual comics the movies are based off do every 10 years or so, which is to do a big crossover / universe defining and changing storyline that acts as a new jumping on point for people who haven't really been into the storylines or current continuity for a while. 

That aspect makes me think that doomsday is going to overperform and be remarkably similar to endgame box office.

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u/Spazm2026 21h ago

also it's very much less interesting

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u/FourSes 21h ago

Check r/boxoffice. With its presales, Doomsday could be the worst movie ever and still make $2 billion.

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u/MawsonAntarctica 6h ago

That’s where I’m at, it can be a bunch of fan bait garbage and make all the money in the world. Given this over Dune, I’ll see Dune opening day and wait til after Christmas for Doomsday,

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u/DiscountWorried 21h ago

Prob will end up on no. 1 anyway when they re release it before secret wars

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u/superspicycurry37 21h ago

It will have an extremely big opening no matter what, pre sale tickets can already tell you that. Whether it maintains legs will have to be determined by whether it gets good word of mouth and convince those who fully jumped off the MCU to get back on for another ride.

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u/ohheyisayokay 3h ago

I dunno. Personal bias I suppose, but I feel like there's just less interest this time. I was definitely way more pumped on Marvel when Endgame came out the first time than I am now.

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u/djkhan23 18h ago

I feel like Doomsday is gonna be average to sucky so it won't reach the record.

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u/Karna1394 20h ago

Avatar in 2009/10, being an unknown and brand new franchise having zero connection with any book/culture/history/event, sweeping the box office and reaching the top spot powered by word of mouth was insane.

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u/portal23 13h ago

If I remember correctly, it also had to do witj being one of the first big 3D movies in theatre when the hype around 3D was the biggest.

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u/IWentToJellySchool 11h ago

think it was Avatar what pushed 3d to its hype. It was the new cool thing. Hated watching movies at that time. You can tell some scenes were shot a certain way just to push the 3d gimmick

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u/rcanhestro 10h ago

it was also the first time (in a big movie) that 3D was used perfectly, instead of just being a "throw shit at the screen to scare people" gimmick.

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u/Optimus_Prime_Day 19h ago

Except it came from a very well known director with a history of great movies, so there's that setup for it.

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u/TylerBourbon 21h ago edited 59m ago

this isn't in defense of Avatar, but for a long time I've thought it is rather BS to include "rerelease" box office as a way to bump it up a films numbers, because it doesn't really differentiate from when the film was initially released, especially if it's been altered for the rerelease.

Though at the same time I would really love it if film studios would regularly rerelease movies or run them for longer so it does help to show "hey your film can still make money" as an incentive to rerelease older movies.

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u/GamingTatertot Steven Spielberg Enthusiast 21h ago

this isn't in defense of Avatar, but for a long time I've thought it is rather BS to include "release" box office as a way to bump it up a films numbers

To be fair, a lot of films do this and it has affected a lot of film's numbers too - Jurassic Park and Philosopher's Stone got over a billion with it. Titanic got over 2 billion with it. So it's certainly not just an Avatar or Endgame thing.

But yes I want more films re-released. I'll always take seeing a film again in theaters than on the couch at home.

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u/Seinfeel 20h ago edited 20h ago

Don’t forget Morbius, made an extra ten dollars.

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u/Suspicious-Whippet 15h ago

Did it though?

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u/Seinfeel 13h ago

I guess technically it was refunded because it was just a misclick

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u/Sitherio 18h ago

The Thing was amazing in theaters again. There is an experience to a theater that not even home can replicate. But you have to be motivated to see it that way. 

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u/SpikeKowalski 15h ago

Yup.  I keep my ears open for re-releases (if a movie is getting a 4k release it's usually a good time to check as they'll put it in the theaters to advertise the hone release) because certain movies just sing on the big screen.

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u/yepgeddon 14h ago

Devastated I missed it. Love The Thing.

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u/Icy_Smoke_733 15h ago

Agreed, even really old movies like Jaws, Gone With The Wind, The Exorcist, and Star Wars have had multiple re-releases, so this isn't some new gimmick. Half of GWtW's gross came from re-releases over like 40 years, and that is the highest grossing film ever, adjusted for inflation.

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u/Sparrowsabre7 15h ago

In 2025 the only films I saw in the cinema wee re-releases 😅 Revenge of the Sith and Perfect Blue

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u/HydroStanley 14h ago

I forgot the site, but some guy tried to figure out what movie was the biggest ever in the first run only (no re-release numbers), accounting for inflation, population growth, AND moviegoing trends.

His analysis found The Sound of Music as the biggest first run of all time.

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u/SuspiciousToast27 13h ago

TIL The Sound of Music during its original theatrical release was in theatres for over 4.5 years straight.

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u/West_Conclusion_1239 11h ago

Pretty sure Gone With The Wind is unbeatable.

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u/SuspiciousToast27 8h ago

Their data is excluding rereleases. Gone With The Wind's initial release was smaller, but it was rereleased 8 times from the 1940s to 1990s during which it made an extra $2.8 billion. The studio refused to release a home media version of it until 1985 so theatres was the only way to see it.

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u/GiantsRTheBest2 2h ago

Before the 70’s movies were like traveling shows. They’d be at certain numbers of movie theaters and then move on to new ones. It’s very possible it was due to a restriction on the amount of film that each could have access to. So all the older movies would be very hard to compare initial box office, because it might have taken a film a couple of years to make its way through the US.

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u/jaik27 5h ago

It's Titanic

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u/CanExplainThings 17h ago

I would love a re release of Morbius. 

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u/tehachapitotonopah 15h ago

It’s nice to want things

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u/throwmeinthetrassssh 14h ago

It's time again for Morbin time

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u/CanExplainThings 6h ago

I would absolutely lose my morb.

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u/Zombiekiller414 6h ago

So Avatar's 5 re releases shouldn't count either? I've never got this logic, unless you're getting an entirely different movie, (something similar to snyders justice league) the box office absolutely should count. The same movie with extra content added at the end is still the same movie. Movies through out history have had re releases. I think its a good thing for fans and cinema in general. With that being said stuff like the morbius re release should never have happened. Lol

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u/TylerBourbon 1h ago

I get what you're saying. I suppose I see it like how we differentiate between foreign and domestic gross. Yes we combine the 2 eventually, but we still make a point of tracking the 2 independently. I'm a 1000% behind releasing movies, but I think we should differentiate between gross that is from a release, for the same reason we don't count home sales of digital and physical releases with a films theatrical gross.

One could conceivably rerelease a mediocre film for 50 years and it could potentially be crowned the highest grossing film of all time simply by virtue of being in rereleased in theaters regularly for multiple decades.

And it just seems a bit disingenuous to me in talking about a films success.

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u/Zombiekiller414 39m ago

I do see your point there with the bad movies. But to go with that point, i do think the audience is smart enough not to go for that. Example would be sony re releasing Morbius 🤣 😂 💀. Encores personal gross domestic and worldwide are still tallied as well. I think its at 40 million DOM and 100 million worldwide on its own. But yea i do see where you're going.

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u/newbrevity 18h ago

So many movies are best experienced on the big screen. Some things that no home theater can reproduce unless it's a literal theater. It's money on the table for the studios and the people who made the film who could stand to receive royalties.

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u/cardinalkgb 19h ago

You do realize that Avatar re-released multiple times since Endgame beat it the first time, right?

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u/TylerBourbon 18h ago

Oh I'm aware, hence why I said it's not a defense of Avatar. It really doesn't matter which movie it is, it just seems a bit disingenuous to add ticket sales from a rerelease to it's box office total overall to say it's not the high grossing movie of all time. We do separate things already like Domestic vs Foreign box office. Re-releases should get their own category.

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u/BangerBeanzandMash 9h ago

This first sentence doesn’t even make sense but has 25 upvotes

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u/AnonymouselyMoosed 7h ago

I mean it’s slightly poorly worded but it absolutely makes sense. Not sure how you don’t know the point it’s making.

Also since you’re being pedantic - the first sentence didn’t get 25 upvotes, the entire comment (and the point it is communicating) did.

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u/0urlasthope 6h ago

Shut up nerd

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u/TylerBourbon 58m ago

ty i fixed it, meant to say rerelease and not just release.

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u/Jason-Smith168498 9h ago

I understood it just fine. What part doesn't make sense to you?

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u/BangerBeanzandMash 9h ago

It’s horrible grammar and sentence structure. Reddit used to have standards. I guess people are just cool with getting the vibe of a comment these days.

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u/johnnySix 8h ago

When did Reddit have standards?

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u/BangerBeanzandMash 7h ago

Fair point. But you guys are being purposefully obtuse and ignoring that shitty sentence

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u/johnnySix 3h ago

Honestly, it reads like I write. So I’m cool with it.

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u/Vitrex 1h ago

Somehow it does its job, because I read it without problem. It was not until I saw your comment and went back and look that I noticed that, yes, you are right.

Not worth getting upset about though.

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u/JasonFenixx 8h ago

The purpose of language is for communication and the conveyance of information.

You're the only one struggling to get the info

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u/BangerBeanzandMash 8h ago

It’s a horrible, confusing sentence.

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u/JasonFenixx 8h ago

Yet I, Mr Smith and at least 25 other people had no problem understanding it

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u/BangerBeanzandMash 7h ago

Tik tok brains I guess 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/kingcalifornia 5h ago

People are coming after you! They’re so sensitive. It’s clear that sentence is poorly constructed but that doesn’t mean it’s a personal attack against OP.

Jesus Christ people grow the fuck up.

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u/Relevant-Physics432 18h ago

These box office numbers don't really account for ticket prices and inflation so honestly it's a bit irrelevant 

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u/fdbryant3 17h ago

Yeah, I don't like that we only talk about the lifetime BO totals. It sorta makes sense since on the balance sheet they are going to line item and just look at the total. But I feel there should be space to account for the movie that makes the most in its original run.

As it is we are probably just going to be watching Avatar and Endgame pass the title back and forth for the next 100 years.

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u/Stefan988 21h ago edited 20h ago

Disney reclaiming the title from Disney.

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u/irwinner 8h ago

James Cameron doesn't do what James Cameron does for James Cameron; James Cameron does what James Cameron does because James Cameron is James Cameron!

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u/intothevoid_Out 15h ago

In today's news , Disney happy Disney surpassed Disney.....AGAIN

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u/pizzacrys 21h ago

James Cameron really has two of the biggest movies ever and still treats the box office like friendly competition.

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u/TheUmbrellaMan1 19h ago

He did say back in 2019 that not having the no.1 box office movie lifts a lot of pressure. He thought it was ridiculous that Titanic held the record for as long as it did. Yeah, it's nice to have the no.1 movie but he's not going to lose his sleep over a record being broken.

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u/CantAffordzUsername 21h ago

This all started back when George Lucas and Steven Spielberg started a famous tradition of taking out full-page magazine ads to congratulate each other when one of their films broke the other's box office record.

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u/Northern23 17h ago

I thought your links were for the said ads. Was disappointed

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u/OrphanintheWind 18h ago

Until Titanic Unleashed is released in a few years. This new experience will flood the audience with actual water. Pre-Purchase tickets now!!

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u/Disastrous_Minute_56 18h ago

Time to screen Avatar again.

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u/weinertorn 15h ago

James Cameron doesn't do what James Cameron does for James Cameron; James Cameron does what James Cameron does because James Cameron is James Cameron

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u/MisterSneakSneak 13h ago

lol yeah, after it needed a 2nd round

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u/Familiar-Shoe7905 31m ago

Avatar needed like 5

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u/GoldXP 20h ago

Adjusted for inflation, Avatar is the second highest grossing movie of all time and Endgame is the fifth

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u/cardinalkgb 19h ago

What’s first?

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u/GoldXP 19h ago

Gone with The Wind 

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u/SabresFanWC 18h ago

In today's money, Gone With the Wind made around $4.4 billion at the box office. It's insane.

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u/ExILoveEmiliaAndRem 15h ago

Happens when a movie is in theaters for years instead of months.

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u/SabresFanWC 10h ago

Which is a reflection of how popular it was. Even considering TV and home releases weren't available at the time, Gone With the Wind's theatrical run was unusual.

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u/ell_hou 27m ago

Just like Avatar!

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u/Normal_Pace7374 10h ago

Haven’t seen it

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u/surik4t 16h ago

Endgame sold more tickets than both of them tho

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u/EnterPlayerTwo 13h ago

Endgame sold more tickets than Avatar and Endgame?

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u/Hanyabull 13h ago

Correct.

I think?

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u/GoldXP 5h ago

The population is also triple what it was back then. 

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u/Familiar-Shoe7905 32m ago

The population was only 2.5 billion in 2009?

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u/No-Hunt-1305 19h ago

He is already planning another Avatar re-release right now.

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u/ohnohelpwhereamI 18h ago

If he had said 'can we fucking stop this shit' instead I would have so much respect for him.

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u/garygalah 17h ago

This feels like the equivalent of political opponents calling eachother after a race lol

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u/astig_my_tism 17h ago

This will just keep going until someone draws the fucking line

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u/TheMundar 16h ago

I won't care until they use seats sold instead of dollars and even then I won't care very much.

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u/DifficultCarpenter00 14h ago

4 entire fucking minutes! glorious rerelease

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u/_Middlefinger_ 14h ago

Re-releases should only count if they are identical. If they are edits they are a separate movie.

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u/tayroc122 13h ago

'Biggest' here meaning simply in terms of extraction of surplus value in profit. Not in terms of quality, long term cultural impact, or any other potential value added.

I like Endgame and even Cameron, but this is ridiculous, especially in an economic climate where the majority of people are hurting.

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u/Qyro 12h ago

Cameron publicly - Well done Avengers Endgame you earned it!

Cameron privately - Quick re-release Avatar again!

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u/WorldPhysical7646 12h ago

He is saying he will rerelease avatar

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u/shazzwackets 8h ago

(Horrible movies)

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u/Maserati777 8h ago

In before Avatar: Endgame

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u/Disc81 6h ago

BIGGEST MOVIE EVER*

*not adjusted for inflation

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u/ItssHarrison 5h ago

Yeah I’m sick of them jerking eachother off under the Disney tent when they rerelease the same movies once a year

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u/John98LS1 4h ago

Avatar sucked. Sorry not sorry.

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u/pkjoan 2h ago

It feels like cheating if you re-release movies.

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u/towneetowne 21h ago

" ... the highest-grossing movie of all time with a cumulative $2.9 million at the box office thanks to its “Encore” re-release in September."

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u/Lumpy-Marsupial-6617 21h ago

A billion is more than a million...ASS. -Scotty Evil

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u/towneetowne 21h ago

seriously! doesn't anybody copy edit anymore - let alone read?

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u/xavPa-64 21h ago

He says numbnuts, not ass

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u/cardinalkgb 19h ago

What’s your point?

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u/Cloud_N0ne 20h ago

Nah, this is bullshit. Re-releasing the movie to juice the numbers is blatant cheating.

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u/Antrikshy 16h ago

Since these numbers are generally not adjusted for inflation, it's all to be taken with a grain of salt anyway.

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u/Fair-Degree-2200 9h ago

If people want to re-watch (or watch for the first time) a movie, how is that cheating?

In fact I'm a HUGE fan of re-releasing great movies, I don't know why they don't do it more often. 

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u/johnnySix 8h ago

Endgame passed avatar BO during initial release. Avatar rereleased a couple years ago and passed endgame. Now endgame has rereleased and has passed avatar again. It’s like checkers. King me!

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u/cardinalkgb 19h ago

Cheating how? Endgame was number one when its run ended and only dropped to number two because Cameron rereleased Avatar multiple times.

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u/MasterKingdomKey 18h ago

Cheating on both sides.

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u/rasputin1 11h ago

but they're the same side.... they're both Disney 

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u/cardinalkgb 18h ago

If you go by the original gross from the end of their first run, Endgame is number 1.

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u/G1ygas 8h ago

Movies get rereleased all the time, what’s so different about Endgame or Avatar being rereleased to let people see them in theaters and make more money compared to rereleasing something like Pan’s Labyrinth (which was in theaters again last week) to let people see it again in theaters and make more money?

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u/xVIRIDISx 6h ago

“Blatant cheating” lmfao it’s an artificial contest that has literally no meaning whatsoever

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u/Cloud_N0ne 5h ago

Still cheating

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u/sobi-one 7h ago

Are you suggesting people didn’t buy tickets to go to these movies?

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u/EDDsoFRESH 6h ago

No they said “Nah, this is bullshit. Re-releasing the movie to juice the numbers is blatant cheating.” Hope that clears things up.

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u/Cloud_N0ne 5h ago

Your reading comprehension needs work, bud.

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u/Gapinthesidewalk 21h ago

I want James Cameron to be petty and re-release Avatar into theaters with 4 minutes of extra footage.

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u/TeutonJon78 20h ago

He could A1 had plenty of footage put back in the directors cut and even more deleted scenes beyond that.

Jake's psychedelic worm scene makes his whole "now I'm one of the people" make sense. It was cut (probably rightfully so) because it foreshadows a later reveal.

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u/Droidlivesmatter 21h ago

He re releases titanic its over. Lol

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u/Hammerheadshark55 13h ago

He literally did that to outgross avengers endgame

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u/PerformanceMission17 20h ago

I can finally sleep a light knowing this!

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u/supervillaindsgnr 18h ago

Both are unremarkable movies.

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u/DylanMMc 18h ago

Avatar is mid

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u/oceansrbattlefields 17h ago

Do we need to keep doing this?

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u/girthyplonkers 16h ago

Gone With The Wind is still the biggest movie calculated for inflation.

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u/GamingTatertot Steven Spielberg Enthusiast 21h ago edited 21h ago

This whole "adjusted for inflation" thing is such a weird phenomenon that's come out recently. I've been following the box office for nearly 15 years, and yet never seen more people try to discredit films because of "inflation" than I have now.

EDIT: I realize my comment may have been confusing - I know "adjusted for inflation" is not a new measure, I've been around for awhile and follow this all very intently. I meant more the people using "adjusted for inflation" as a way to discredit newer films for their high grosses. Which I understand the prior commenter is saying he isn't doing, but after all the discussion around BND I'm wary of anyone who brings it up in a forum like this.

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u/tenacious_masshole 21h ago

I don’t know if you’re younger or what but I’ve always heard that.

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u/Catswagger11 21h ago

It’s not discrediting so much as addressing reality, no?

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u/GamingTatertot Steven Spielberg Enthusiast 21h ago

Not really - it's simplifying something that is very complex and goes beyond just "inflation" especially when you consider the constant re-releases, fluctuation between exchange rates over the years in different nations, the availability of home media, and a whole lot of other factors that ultimately affect the box office. But also, it's just a really disingenuous and cheap talking point that feels like peak Reddit kind of behavior.

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u/32BitBrit 21h ago edited 21h ago

My favourite film is ‘The Pursuit for Lowest Common Denominator’ so this news really tickles my giblets

Edit: downvoted without comment? Speaks volumes x