r/nri • • 2h ago

Discussion Some uncomfortable observations about our desi religious places in America

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TL;DR: Religious places should be about peace, humility, and service, not ego, power trips, and petty hierarchies. Some volunteers seem more interested in asserting authority, pleasing their self-appointed leaders, and publicly humiliating devotees than actually helping them. Volunteering is a privilege, not a license to insult people or inflate your ego. And if it's also a way to fill your otherwise uneventful weekends, please don't act as though you're doing everyone a tremendous favor. Most importantly, what impression does all this leave on young people? We complain that the next generation is losing interest in our traditions, but perhaps we should ask whether such behavior is driving them away.


I have visited quite a few desi religious places in the US, and there is something I have noticed on several occasions that has bothered me. I wonder if others have had similar experiences.

People go to these places for some peace of mind, to pray, to feel connected to their roots and perhaps get away from the everyday stress of life. Unfortunately, sometimes the experience is quite the opposite, not because of the place itself, but because of the attitude of certain volunteers.

Let me first say that there are many sincere and hardworking volunteers who spend their personal time helping the community. I have tremendous respect for them. But there is also another category of volunteers whose behavior makes you wonder whether they are there to serve or to feel important.

One thing I have noticed is this unwritten hierarchy among volunteers. There seem to be a couple of people who behave like they are in charge of everything. Then there is a whole group around them, constantly hovering, moving here and there, looking terribly busy, and seemingly trying to get noticed by these so-called leaders.

It is almost amusing to watch, if it were not for what sometimes follows.

Let some unsuspecting devotee stand in the wrong place, walk in the wrong direction, or unknowingly violate some rule, and suddenly one of these senior volunteers descends upon the person as though some major offense has been committed.

Instead of politely explaining what needs to be done, there is unnecessary scolding, a condescending tone, and sometimes outright public humiliation.

And then, almost on cue, a few of the other volunteers join in. Everybody suddenly has something to say. One person has already given the instruction, but three others feel the need to repeat it, sometimes in an even more authoritative tone.

You get the distinct impression that the intention is not so much to correct a mistake as to make a statement about who is in charge.

Why is all this necessary? If somebody is standing in the wrong line, just tell them politely. If a visitor is unfamiliar with the procedures, help them understand. If there are rules to be followed, by all means enforce them. Nobody is suggesting that a busy religious place should operate without discipline.

But surely there is a difference between maintaining order and treating people as though they are schoolchildren who need to be reprimanded.

And this brings me to something else. Volunteering is an opportunity and a privilege. It is not a license to insult or ridicule people.

Let's be practical. Not everybody who volunteers is making some extraordinary personal sacrifice. For many, it is also a way to spend an otherwise uneventful weekend, meet people, socialize, stay occupied, or feel part of a community.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. In fact, it is a good thing.

But please don't behave as though you are doing every visitor a tremendous personal favor.

If volunteering gives you a reason to get out of the house on a Saturday or Sunday, wonderful. If it helps you build friendships, even better. If it gives you a sense of purpose, that's great too. But none of that entitles you to ridicule, insult, intimidate, or look down upon someone else.

You are not the owner of the place. You are not granting anyone a personal favor by allowing them to enter. And wearing a volunteer badge doesn't automatically make you more important than the person who has come there to pray.

Frankly, sometimes I wonder whether a few people are more interested in the authority that comes with volunteering than in the actual volunteering itself.

And what is with this culture of constantly trying to please the people at the top?

The excessive deference, the hovering around, the eagerness to agree with everything, and the tendency to join in when someone is being reprimanded. It reminds me of the kind of office politics many of us thought we had left behind.

Do we really need to recreate that same environment in our religious places too?

There is another aspect to this which I find even more concerning.

What impression are we leaving on our children and young adults?

Many immigrant families work hard to build a life in this country, raise their children here, and make a conscious effort to keep them connected to their culture and traditions.

We want them to visit these places, participate in community activities, and appreciate the values we grew up with.

But put yourself in the shoes of a young person who has grown up in America.

They visit a religious place and see an older person being rudely spoken to, a family being publicly embarrassed over something trivial, or volunteers behaving as though they belong to some exclusive club with its own hierarchy.

What are they supposed to make of it?

These young people have grown up in an environment where politeness, personal dignity, and respectful communication are generally expected, even when rules are being enforced.

They are not necessarily going to accept rude behavior simply because the person delivering it is older, has been associated with the institution for twenty years, or happens to be on some committee.

And unlike many of us, they may not bother arguing about it.

They will simply stop going.

Then we will sit around discussing why the younger generation is not interested in our religious and cultural institutions anymore.

Perhaps we should sometimes look at the environment we are creating rather than putting all the blame on the younger generation.

I also find it interesting how a little authority can change some people's behavior.

Give someone responsibility for managing a queue, directing visitors, or coordinating an event, and occasionally you see a completely different personality emerge.

Suddenly there is a commanding tone, an expectation of unquestioning obedience, and an attitude that suggests the visitors should be grateful for being allowed to be there.

I have seen people in ordinary professional settings handle far more complicated situations with much greater patience and courtesy.

Surely we can expect at least that much from people volunteering at a religious place.

Nobody expects perfection. Volunteers can get tired, frustrated, and overwhelmed, particularly during busy events. They are human beings too.

But there is a difference between an occasional moment of frustration and a habitual attitude of superiority.

And when several people start behaving this way together, it becomes a culture rather than an isolated incident.

That is when the people running these institutions need to pay attention.

We spend millions building impressive religious facilities. There are elaborate ceremonies, grand celebrations, fundraising drives, and constant efforts to expand buildings and attract more devotees.

All of that is fine.

But shouldn't we spend at least some effort making sure that the ordinary person walking through the door is treated with basic courtesy and respect?

What good is a beautiful religious place if somebody leaves feeling humiliated over a minor mistake?

What is the point of talking about humility and service if some of the people representing the institution seem to have forgotten both?

I am not suggesting that this happens everywhere, or that all volunteers behave this way. Far from it. Some of the nicest and most helpful people I have met have been volunteers at these very places.

But the behavior of a few can leave a lasting impression, particularly when others around them silently encourage it.

And perhaps that is the real problem. Not just the individual who behaves rudely, but the little ecosystem that develops around such people, where nobody questions them and others try to imitate them.

I find myself increasingly valuing simple courtesy over titles, positions, seniority, and all these artificial hierarchies.

A person who quietly helps an elderly visitor find a seat is doing more meaningful service, in my view, than someone who spends the entire day loudly directing people and reminding everybody who is in charge.

And one final thing to those who take their volunteer positions a little too seriously.

If you are spending your weekend volunteering, good for you. But please remember that you are there by choice. You are not doing the rest of us a personal favor, and you certainly haven't earned the right to insult someone just because you have given up a few hours of your Sunday.

A little humility and basic decency would go a long way.

People come to these places with faith and respect. The least they deserve in return is to be treated with the same respect.

I am curious whether others have noticed this kind of behavior at desi religious places in the US, or whether my experiences have been unusual.

And more importantly, do we ever stop to think about what message all this sends to the next generation?


r/nri • • 11h ago

Ask NRI Mother passed, moving several souvereigns back home to the USA

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I visited India exactly 5 times in 26 years of living in the US. I am still an Indian citizen and GC holder.

Over the years, when I did visit, my mother would drag me fi the local jeweler and make me but gold as "investment". She believed only in investing in land and gold.

She passed, and I'm overwhelmed. What should I do to ensure a smooth return back? I'm going to look like a jewelry store model and I am anxious. I have RECEIPTS for all purchases including new jewelry I have just exchanged for old.

Please help! What should I expect ? I'm talking over 50 souvereigns of gold.


r/nri • • 1h ago

Visa / OCI / Passport Surrender Indian passport documents

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I have made an error and have uploaded a wrong documents online. My appointment for surrendering passport is next week, can I still upload new documents now even though my appointment is next week.


r/nri • • 2h ago

Visa / OCI / Passport Surrendering passport- do I need to upload all non blank pages of my Indian passport on the portal. Or just the front and back?

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r/nri • • 1h ago

Visa / OCI / Passport Do I need self attestation for surrendering passport appointment. I do not have my first UK passport. Do I need to get a self attestation on the letter for this?

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r/nri • • 3h ago

Ask NRI e-OCI recent approvals at NY?

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Any information on recent processing times or approval experiences would be appreciated. I'm looking to see if there have been any recent e-OCI approvals at the New York Consulate and to understand the typical timeline once an application is received by the Consulate General of India, New York.

My application was changed to in-progress at CGI NY on 10/15/2026


r/nri • • 2h ago

Ask NRI Buying iPhone for friend in India

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Hello I am in Arizona as a student my parents came to visit me and they are about to leave USA. I want to buy iPhone for my friend who is in India but bu I don't want the money in my bank account or my parents bank account for some purpose.

What are my options ??


r/nri • • 13h ago

Discussion How to use Jio PayGo as a prepaid user without an IR pack?

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I need to send money to someone via UPI but UPI verification requires me to send an outgoing SMS which requires a roaming pack. Can I use Jio PayGo instead?


r/nri • • 13h ago

Discussion e-OCI Timeline (Netherlands) - Much Faster Than Expected

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Thought I'd share my recent timeline for anyone applying from the Netherlands.

  • Applied for Surrender Certificate physically at VFS Den Haag.
  • Received the Surrender Certificate in about 2 months.
  • After receiving it, I applied for e-OCI online and submitted the physical application/document package as required.
  • e-OCI was approved in 10 days.
  • Received the OCI document the day before yesterday.

Overall, the Surrender Certificate took much longer than the OCI process itself. Once I had the Surrender Certificate, the e-OCI application moved surprisingly fast.

Timeline Summary

  • Surrender Certificate: ~2 months
  • e-OCI approval: 10 days
  • Country: Netherlands

Hope this helps others waiting for their applications. Processing times can vary, but my OCI experience was much faster than expected.


r/nri • • 5h ago

Ask NRI Sending money from Canada to India — any limits or future tax implications?

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Hello everyone!
I wanted to ask if anyone here has experience transferring money from their Canadian bank account to their own bank account or their siblings’ bank accounts in India.
Suppose the money is my personal savings from working in Canada, and I transfer around CAD $2,500 (or more over time) to India using services like Remitly or a regular bank transfer.
I have a few questions:
Is there any limit on how much money I can send from Canada to India?
Do I have to pay any additional taxes in Canada or India on this money, either now or in the future?
If I transfer the money to my own Indian bank account, is the tax treatment different from sending it to my brother’s or sister’s account?
Could my siblings face any tax implications for receiving the money?
Are there any reporting requirements or documents I should keep to avoid potential issues in the future?
For context, this is money I’ve already earned through employment in Canada, and I’m simply transferring my personal savings to India.
I’d appreciate hearing from anyone who has done this, especially those who have transferred money regularly or in larger amounts.
Thanks in advance for your help! 🙏


r/nri • • 6h ago

Visa / OCI / Passport Marital status shows incorrectly when updating OCI after new passport was received

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I recently received a new passport and am now updating my OCI.
After completing the application and uploading all the required documents, I noticed that both the “Verify Information” page and the final printed form show my marital status as “Unmarried.” I was married when I first applied for my OCI and had indicated this correctly at that time. However, my OCI card itself does not show my marital status.
The system does not give me an option to change it. I suspect it may be pulling this information from my existing OCI records.
Unfortunately, I no longer have a copy of my original application, but I am certain I would have entered my marital status correctly.
Has anyone experienced a similar issue? If so, how did you resolve it? Any advice on how best to proceed would be appreciated.


r/nri • • 7h ago

Ask NRI Traveling to India - First time applying for e-Visa as a former citizen without Surrender Certificate? (Need advice on last visa question)

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r/nri • • 13h ago

Visa / OCI / Passport Indian Passport Surrender Portal NOT WORKING – CGI Hamburg. How is anyone supposed to apply??

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I recently acquired German citizenship and now need to surrender my Indian passport and obtain a Surrender Certificate.
The problem is that the online application portal simply DOES NOT OPEN.
I’ve tried:
Multiple devices and browsers
Different Wi-Fi networks and mobile data
Getting my dad to try accessing the portal from India (doesn’t work there either!)
The website just keeps loading indefinitely.
I’ve also been trying to contact the Consulate General of India in Hamburg, but nobody picks up the phone. I’ve called multiple numbers and emailed the passport department as well as the consulate.
And apparently, I need to complete the online application AND book an appointment before I can even submit my documents.
So genuinely, WTF am I supposed to do if the mandatory portal doesn’t even work and nobody responds??
Has anyone recently surrendered their Indian passport through CGI Hamburg?
Is the portal down for everyone, or is there some workaround?
Is there any way to book an appointment without using the website?
Can I just show up at the consulate and ask for assistance?
Has anyone managed to get through to them by phone or email?
Would really appreciate any advice or recent experiences because this is getting ridiculous 😭


r/nri • • 9h ago

Returning to India Help for esim and bank account as an oci in chennai

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Hi, I am an oci. I just arrived in chennai and finding it troublesome to get a sim card. I visited an airtel store and they had trouble setting up and activating a new sim as they say that my visa is rejected which is my eoci in their sim activation app. I believe other airtel stores use the same app for sim card activation. I was trying for esim. May I know branches in chennai whatever sim carrier can help out with my situation. Also for bank account, I havent apply yet, but I am planning to apply for icici bank. I live near omr. Pls give me recommendation for sim store and bank branch I need to apply. The distance doesnt matter to me. I just need to get the above.


r/nri • • 4h ago

Discussion Am I the only fool here?

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How does it feel to surrender citizenship of a country where you were born?

I'm in a mental limbo with whether to proceed with my foreign citizenship application and let go of my Indian citizenship, or to remain on a PR. I am not looking for the practical advantages or rational responses here. I already know those. I am looking for those who battled this at an emotional level. Please also refrain from saying “then don't do it.”

Two years ago, I applied for citizenship and then backed out because I couldn't sleep. I'm somewhat clear-minded now and have the courage to proceed because I have disconnected (or not) the passport from my identity; however, it still hurts, to be honest. The idea of being a foreign national in my own country doesn't sit well with me.

Fate had it that I went abroad at a young age, settled well in all regards, and have no complaints about life. I dearly love and respect my host country. I have so much gratitude for everything I have been offered here, but I also grew up a very patriotic individual who has a lot of depth. When I land in India, I'm less excited to meet my family and more excited to say "Jai Hind" to the unknown CISF security personnel at the airport. I often visit the border areas to meet our forces. These are just a couple of small tidbits to poorly highlight my psychological pain with relinquishing Indian citizenship and acquiring a foreign one.

If you are thinking this guy is an idiot, I won't blame you. My prefrontal cortex also says the same. But life is not all logic.
Some aspects are deep-rooted in our upbringing and in what we have seen and lived through. The mere thought of landing in India with a foreign passport, knowing that I let go of my citizenship for economic and travel advantages, and the whole story we narrate about a better life, is wrecking me from within.

A few years ago, I visited one of the forward posts near the north. I met someone there from the Rajput regiment, and we talked for an hour. Our conversation started with ‘Jai Hind Saab. Kahan Se Hai Aap?’ and it went on in many directions. Now, in my head, when I have similar conversations again (and I will), and the fact that I have to say: ‘I was born here, and then I moved out, and not only that, I also gave up the citizenship’ breaks me from inside.

My rational mind knows all the logical answers, too. A passport is just a travel document. A stronger passport and OCI are the way to go. In the future, the foreign country may close its doors, and getting a stronger passport may not be an option. And many more valid logical arguments.

So, I guess what I am wondering with this post is, are there other foolish emotional idiots here like me? If there are, can you share your stories, or how did you deal with such a dichotomy of loving two countries that are seas apart?

If a genie granted me three wishes, one would be that India allow dual citizenship. Second would be my host country doesn't require taking an oath to a British king, and third would be three more wishes!

Anyway, I hope you got some chuckle from my post.


r/nri • • 20h ago

Ask NRI Digi Yatra App on an US iPhone

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Anyone know how to get around the Apple App Store not allowing an US iPhone to install the Digi Yatra app (something along the lines of this app is not available in your region) ? This seems to be the only way to register for DY. I already have my e/regular Aadhaar and on the basis of that an approved fti-ttp. Thanks


r/nri • • 15h ago

Ask NRI Family and Friends repaying handloans , into NRO account

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I am a US citizen and have OCI. I also have NRO account with HDFC bank. Over years I have lend hand loans to family and friends for various purposes back in India. The total amount is around 45L . Gradually they all are paying back now. Is it okay for them to transfer this money directly into my NRO account. Will there be any tax consequences for them if they transfer it to my NRO account. Some want to directly pay in cash , some are also offering gold. Has anyone managed to deposit cash in NRO account . I eventually want to transfer all this money to USD. I have never done INR to USD transfer. I did some digging, there is lot of info about selling property and managing money but nothing about handloans. Wanted to check if anyone has come cross this kind of situation. How did to manage the money transfer to NRO account and NRO account to USD account.


r/nri • • 17h ago

Recommend Me Indian Passport Renewal at BLS Toronto – Anyone in the Same Boat?

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I applied for my Indian passport renewal on September 22, 2026, at BLS Toronto (Premium Lounge, walk-in submission).
It’s been almost 4 weeks now, and my application status is still showing “Processing at Consulate General.”
I also haven’t received any CAT file number or email update from Passport Seva yet.

Need to travel back to India because of emergency on Nov 15

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r/nri • • 18h ago

Ask NRI CHECKLIST DOCUMENT MISALIGNED / CROPPED - NORMAL PROCESSING NOT TATKAL

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Hello All

I recently started collecting documents for passport renewal , when i downloaded the Checklist document which is the latest one on VFS global , i found its cropped and not aligned well . I am afraid if i mail the same along with my other documents it may lead to rejection . There is one more checklist document which is of may 2026 , that one is well formatted .

Please advise me which one to use or what to do .

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r/nri • • 1d ago

Ask NRI Is it fair that my sister uses my card for household and her child’s expenses?

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I’m an NRI and I visit only once in a year to India. My father passed away years ago, so I’m the main financial support for my mother.

My sister lives with my mother along with her child. The reason given is that the astrologist advised it’s not good for her to stay in her husband’s old family house. So, she moved to my home, and her husband visits once in a week to see them.

Here’s the situation:

- My sister uses my card for almost all household expenses.

- Whenever she shops using my card, she also buys things for her child (nuts, snacks etc) as part of the same purchase.

- My brother-in-law rarely buys anything for the child when he visits. He does it only occasionally. Though he is earning well (about 60k/month)

- They both regularly use my car, but whenever there is maintenance or repair, I used to pay for them. They use it to travel to his relatives’ place as well. They have a car, but it is inherited from his father, and there is some disconnect between them for a while. So, they never use it.

I’m not against helping my mother or my sister. As, it also helps with providing a company for my mother and support. But I’m starting to feel the load is not well balanced, especially since I’m only in India for half the year and still covering almost everything. I feel like her husband not contributing the bare minimum for his own family.

I haven’t spoken to my sister about this yet because I don’t want to create tension, but I’m confused whether this is normal in our Indian culture? I am also worried, if I bring this to my sister, if she feels bad.


r/nri • • 17h ago

Visa / OCI / Passport VFS Rants - Confused on Booking Appointment

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r/nri • • 22h ago

Visa / OCI / Passport statement of need as an oci..

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Hi everyone,

has anyone applied for SON (statement of need )for postgraduate medical residency in the US being an oci? The country of citizenship is not an option for me, so i am looking into getting the document from India. Does anyone have experience with this..? I tried searching for information about it but couldn’t find much. Any help would be much appreciated


r/nri • • 1d ago

Returning to India Getting phone number and bank account

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Hi, I am a OCI. I want to know how can I get a phone number using local sim as well as get a bank account. Currently I am living in a temporary address. I will be staying here in india for three months. I also have a relative who lives with me. I dont know if that is of any use, but would he be able to help me in any way? I would prefer to get it done myself. Also I dont have any indian identity such as aadhar card or whatnot.


r/nri • • 1d ago

Ask NRI Rental income in India, Taxation while NRI

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Hi

I will be renting my home from Nov 26, rent could be 55-60k. I checked that there will be TDS of 30.2% for NRIs rental income in India and show it in US tax filing as well. This will make the tax about 40% in california state resident NRI.

My assumption is I will be giving about 22-25k on tax only, is there anything I am missing? Is there any examption?

What are ways to save tax on rental income? Will it help if the rental income is credited to Mothers account? All other family members are working. Still there needs to be 1% TDS on over 50k. Are there any pros and cons with this approach?

Should I divide 50-50% of that benefits?

Anyone can guide?


r/nri • • 1d ago

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