r/orthopaedics • u/lombardoz Orthopaedic Surgeon • 3d ago
NOT A PERSONAL HEALTH SITUATION Let's share some tricks
Ok ortho folks, I'm looking to hear some OR tricks/tips. Impetus for this was a recent soul sucking case where the screw driver broke off in the head of a peripheral glenoid screw on an infected revision shoulder(I'm looking at you, Arthrex....). Baseplate was rock solid and wouldn't move despite the infection. Tried the dermabond trick to no avail. Screw removal set was pointless. Midas Rex didn't help and the baseplate was still locked in place. Eventually, I was able to just muscle the whole baseplate out of the vault with some bone loss. Tears were shed and select words said.
So, let's hear some tricks. From positioning to managing intra op disasters.
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u/_irish_potato 3d ago
If your small pointed reduction clamp is holding something we but is too wide/open to engage the locking mechanism use a second large pointed and place it through the loops of the handle to hold it engaged and lock it in place
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u/M902D 3d ago
I tie a vicryl around my screw head for the A-P screw on a retro nail any time I have a big thigh. Saves you from losing it in the sauce.
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u/Jazzlike-Can7519 2d ago
The Synthes retrograde nail has the screw driver that threads onto the screw, negating need to do this (I used to do what you describe for long time before also)
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u/M902D 2d ago
Yeah so does the Stryker nail I use now. We had Zimmer natural nail where I trained, that set didn’t have a capture.
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u/Zestyclose-Truth1634 1d ago
Where I trained they used to tie a silk suture on the screw head, the idea was silk would break with enouch force, allowing the suture to be removed with a tug after the screw was inserted. They stopped doing that after one of the residents tore the screw clean out of osteoporotic bone.
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u/orthopod Assc Prof. Onc 3d ago
Always make bigger incisions than the original for hardware removal
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u/REParola 3d ago
Fold the suction tubing and put it in the eyes of the clamp you’re using for the bovie box/cord management for less noise
What’s the dermabond trick?
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u/lombardoz Orthopaedic Surgeon 2d ago
I just responded above, but basically putting dermabond in the screw head and connecting the screwdriver to it to withdraw a screw
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u/D15c0untMD Orthopaedic Surgeon 3d ago
Give the back of the screwdriver a little bonk with a hammer when removing metal. Seats the tip in the screws head better and supposedly breaks the tiny trabeculae inbetween the screws turns, reducing the friction you need to overcome. Not a hard hit, just a little tap. I have no evidence to back this up.
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u/Jazzlike-Can7519 2d ago
This is absolutely the right way to do this. I have to take out a lot of hardware as a trauma guy and I keep doing little subtle taps as I slowly turn the screwdriver counterclockwise to make sure the screwdriver remains completely seated. Your first one to two turns is where you're most likely to strip the head so this is where people screw themselves.
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u/Excellent_Wheel_8203 3d ago
For stripped screw heads I prefer the shukla removal tool. It’s a hard metal that cuts into the screw well. Sometimes if the screw is cold welded and it can’t be removed, I use a carbide drill bit to destroy the screw to the level of the bone below which will facilitate plate removal. The remainder of the screw can then be removed with a trephine removal tool.
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u/12baller12 3d ago
Bone wax on the screw driver head when putting a screw in down a deep wound e.g. pelvis
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u/carlos_6m 3d ago
To keep it stuck? Nice... Sounds like a good trick if your screwdriver doesn't lock onto the screw
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u/Kalpagony 3d ago
If you have trouble positioning pointed reduction clamps and it keeps slipping off: lightly drill the surface with a 2mm K wire where you want the end to grab onto, just don't drill all the way through the cortex. If fascia sutures on a thick patient are hard to do (especially on the thigh) you can stick the handle of you forceps under the fascia and slide the needle along it to make sure your exactly in the right layer.
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u/satanicodrcadillac 3d ago
Spine related but if you approach using the suction, grab a small piece of ioban to cover the little hole so you don’t have to be putting excessive pressure on your thumb. Extra points if you use the bovie with a pedal.
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u/bonedoc87 2d ago
For percutaneous fixation of metacarpal or
proximal phalanx fractures, the reduction can usually be achieved and held during k-wire or IM screw guidewire placement by just holding the patient’s hand in a fist.
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u/anon_NZ_Doc 3d ago
What’s the dermabond trick?