r/pcmasterrace • • Aug 11 '26

Discussion Should developers stop making games that require 5090 for max settings now that the card is clearly not for gamers and is accessible to 0.1% of community?

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I get that the games need better hardware to dun better, but who are they really making the game for if you need a 6000$ GPU at this point

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u/ndr2h 9800X3D, 32GB CL28, 5090FE, 4K@165hz Aug 11 '26

To be fair native 4K 60fps is a damn task, most games require serious hardware for that

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u/Quezni RTX 4070 / Ryzen 7 7700 / 32GB DDR5 Aug 11 '26

Native 4k60fps requiring a 5090 is not bad optimization. That’s an insane benchmark to shoot for. A 4080 for 1440p60 is much more reasonable and realistic

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u/Rengar_Is_Good_kitty 5800X3D / RTX 5080 Aug 11 '26

Yes it is bad optimisation and there's nothing insane about it. Saying that a 5080 shouldn't be doing max settings is what's freaking insane.

Keep defending shit optimisation bud, doing gaming a solid there.

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u/Quezni RTX 4070 / Ryzen 7 7700 / 32GB DDR5 Aug 11 '26

I don’t think you understand how ridiculous it is to expect native 4k60 to be accessible to anyone other than people with the top 1% of hardware.

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u/Rengar_Is_Good_kitty 5800X3D / RTX 5080 Aug 12 '26

It should be accessible to the 80 and 90 series comfortably. 90 series is purely for overkill which you would expect at those prices, but needing a $5k GPU to hit 4k60fps is horrible performance.

Again, quit defending shit optimisation, that kind of attitude helps no one.

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u/Quezni RTX 4070 / Ryzen 7 7700 / 32GB DDR5 Aug 12 '26

Anyone shooting for 4k60 is already in overkill territory. It is nowhere near standard. It’s not shit optimization. Being able to play native 1440p60 high on a 4070ti and native 1440p60 ultra on a 4080 is pretty decent optimization. I would not expect anything short of a 90 series to play 4k60 native.

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u/Rengar_Is_Good_kitty 5800X3D / RTX 5080 Aug 12 '26

4k60fps is not overkill wtf are you on about? Five years ago yeah that might be overkill, its 2026 so that is no longer the case, you're living in the past bud. It absolutely is shit optimisation if current gen high end rigs can't achieve that.

When was the last time you looked at benchmarks? We're comfortably in the 100s now on high end rigs for most games with only a handful of games failing to do that due to poor optimisation, want a prime example? Starfield, a notoriously poorly optimised game.

I have a 5080, most games can be played at around 4k100fps (roughly) comfortably, so you're just completely wrong lmao. The only time its a problem is with poor optimisation or ray tracing the latter being understandable, framegen is meant to be used there.

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u/Bibbity_Boppity_BOOO Aug 11 '26

You were downvoted by the dumbest people

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u/GoldSrc R3 3100 | RTX 3090 | 64GB RAM | Aug 13 '26

It is bad optimization.

A 5090 is not a gaming card, the same goes for the 4090, 3090, and the older Titan.

When hardware power keep increasing, but games keep looking the same while requiring more hardware power. That should tell you the problem lies with the games.

A 3060 should be the benchmark for 1080p 60 regardless of the game.

A 5090, 4090 or even 3090 should not have problems with 4k 60.

People don't seem to understand just how ridiculously powerful a 5090 is, 4k 60 shouldn't even make it sweat. Unless, the games end up being horribly unoptimized.

It will be fun when UE6 comes out, makes next to nothing of graphical improvements, but ends up showing how much better games can run when things are properly optimized.

I know it's possible, UE5 can make VR games run at locked 120FPS and at native resolutions higher than 2160p. Without the need for a 5090.

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u/Henry_Fleischer Debian | RTX3070, Ryzen 3700X, 48GB DDR4 RAM Aug 11 '26

It's max settings, why would it run well on normal hardware?

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u/Bibbity_Boppity_BOOO Aug 11 '26

You are arguing with idiots.