It's not on the contract, Shuhei Yoshida spoke about this in Kinda Funny. Sony is afraid of damaging their relationship with Miyazaki and From Software which is why, when Miyazaki said no, they didn't brute force their way past him. Not necessarily something stated in the contract since technically Sony owns the IP, just unfortunate but smart business
Sony and From are throwing the ball at each other. Who would you rather believe, Sony, which is a company that focuses solely on console exclusives, or FromSoft, which has developed every game with PC in mind?
When have they developed every game with PC in mind?
The only game out of the box that supports ultra wide resolutions, and online without mods is dark souls 1 remastered. The original had to be modded to be playable because it was released in such a terrible state.
They cap the fucking frame rate , don’t support all resolutions, and refuse to change it.
I don't think you really understand that the engine that darksouls runs on literally breaks if the frame rates go higher or lower.
If the framerate goes higher than 60 fps elevators stop working completely, animations get sped up and gravity drags you down way faster if you don't have a specific mod that tries to emulate more frames without "fixing" the bugs that come with higher or lower frame rates. Stuff above 30 fps is not stable in darksouls and you'd also spend a LOT more time getting stuck in walls and falling through the earth
You can even see this shit happening in elden ring speedruns where they lower the fps further than what's intended and you can catapult your characters at high speeds across the map
They were due to the fact Demon Souls were also partly developed through Sony's Japan Studio. Every game that From Soft exclusively developed, was with PC in mind, exception being Duskbloods which is solely developed by From and funded by Nintendo.
Sony literally worked on BB and Demon Souls PS3. Any other game, unless I'm mistaken, was untouched by Sony when it comes to development.
Furthermore, due to the partly skewed ownership of the Demon Soul's IP, I assume Bluepoint was able to work on the Demon Souls Remake, which could have also be done for BB, unless FromSoft somehow vetoed it.
They worded it very poorly, but also probably still correct. When developing games they've always planned to release it on PC from the start. Sony plans to not release shit.
Then why did they such a bad job on the PC ports for all their ganes since Demons Souls? Why do they plan to release poopoo? Who plans for a bad release???
Mostly cuz their game engine is old. Those games are locked 60 fps on consoles too which could easily run some of them higher. That point alone clearly indicates it's not a pc neglect thing. But you still missing the point so let me spell it out more clearly
Fromsoft releases all their games on PC.
Apart from a short stint Sony never does and has made it abundantly clear they never will again.
Releasing all their games on PC is not the same as releasing with PC in mind. A man can wear women's underwear. That does not mean that was the manufacturer's intended and first audience. They develop for consoles and PC is a lazy afterthought for more sales.
That was the case for their first few games but most certainly not for Elden Ring or for anything going forward. Er's lead development was for pc. It has the most features and the best support. Oh and uh one other thing. It also sold the most copies on PC. So I think it's pretty obvious where their focus will be next.
Why are you changing the argument? The original argument was that FromSoft "developed every game with PC in mind" which is absolutely not true. Was there a PC port? Yes, there was. But this isn't an argument for any side as either side has reasons for or against PC ports, and each side blames the other.
The statement was clearly „developed with PC in mind“, which means more than just porting to PC.
Fromsoft games have horrible or no support for widescreen, FPS locked at 60, and lets not even start talking about mouse & keyboard as control input. That is not „developed with PC in mind“, that is ported to PC - and often badly.
Fromsoft never did Demon's Souls for pc either. When Sony started releasing pc ports of all there games. They didn't do Bloodborne. Which Sony is stupid but they can't be that stupid.
Demon Souls and couple of other games were supposed to be on pc from that Nvidia leak years ago but I guess the move to go exclusive only was also thought out years only because of the poor sales.
imo, if you keep pc in mind, you have to keep keyboard in mind too. And from software games are terrible woth keyboard and mouse. They are primarilary a console game studio
Because Fromsoft doesn't own the ips for Demon's Souls and Bloodborne. It really is on Sony for not bringing these games to PC. They own the full rights to these games and could have ported them over but did not.
Sure they wanted Fromsoft to be involved i get that. But when you have a large portion of fans wanting more, it shouldn't matter. If Sony really, really wanted to give the fans what they want (Bloodborne PC port/remaster/remake.) They could do it without FS.
What a pathetic level of fromsoft glazing. "FromSoft, which has developed every game with PC in mind?" lmao. Like Dark Souls 1 which was borerline unplayable on mouse and keyboard?
Even From has said it is not Sony's decision, just that they are willing to do it. They have not said under what conditions they would do it. Sony may just not want to pay for it.
Idk, the duskbloods being a Switch 2 exclusive has me quite pissed off. Fromsoft‘s playerbase is not on the switch 2. I‘m probably one of the very few people who bought and played the dark souls 1 remake on switch, because that port was not very good.
Sony is. They want a remake to charge full price for it. FromSoft doesn't trust them to do one right after they botched the artistic vision of the Demon Souls remake. A port would be totally fine with FromSoft. But Sony won't do it.
"the only issue is the thing that ruined it in the first place" yeah? No shit? Ruining the core art direction and the creator's intent is what ruined it. I know this? That's why it's disliked
Not at all. I'm stating the objective fact that Demon's Souls remake missed the mark on preserving the original art direction. It's something YOU said yourself. I played it and did like the gameplay a lot, but it felt soulless in terms of artstyle. That's all I've been saying
Port is the same game ported to different platforms. Remaster is when you add things like higher resolution, higher FPS, better lighting, optional settings, etc. that the original game/platform did not have. Remake is when you the game is built up from scratch.
Sony wanted to REMAKE it. Cause remakes make more money than remasters. FromSoft doesn't trust them to do one right after they botched the artistic vision of the Demon Souls remake. A port would be totally fine with FromSoft. But Sony won't do it.
There is zero evidence for these "Demon's Souls was botched" claims people throw around. The DS remake was fine. I assume if From is preventing remakes now it is because Bluepoint didnt change much about the original and From would want to actually make bigger changes.
Do you have a source? Only source i can find is thag Miyazaki declined everything from playstation, saying either they do it or no one else. NOTHING going against bluepoint at all.
This doesn’t answer my question. This just says that Fromsoft wants to do it themselves. Nothing in this goes against bluepoint or sony.
“I was actually hoping to do it myself” is not the same as “you fucked up so now im doing it”.
Assuming Sony has any say in the matter, which they do, they would 10000% be holding it back from being ported to PC. They have completely pulled out of the market and gone hermit mode. Not to mention their exclusives have had a ton of duds lately. Bloodborne remaster is a beyond obvious easy W that they desperately need.
May not have been the case a few years ago but it certainly is now.
tf? they're losing money like crazy right now, if fromsoft allowed them to do whatever sony wanted with bloodborne sony will be coming out with remasters, ports, remakes, sequels every single month, they'll milk the IP till dry
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u/SpiritofBatman 16h ago
I'm pretty sure it's been stated before that it's not Sony holding back Bloodborne remaster or pc port.