r/pcmasterrace • • 12h ago

Meme/Macro We are so back. A hoonter must hoont.

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u/TheGrimmBorne 7h ago

Sony has requested to further it but Miazaki specifically told them no, he had a falling out with them and doesn’t trust them to do what he wants with the IP and since they own it, it means it’s dead

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u/StrangelySerious- 4h ago

...if they own the IP there is nothing Miazaki can say to prevent them to do what they want to do with it, this is nonsense that is being parroted over and over again, game developper don't get a say in how the game publisher publish the game -_-

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u/TheGrimmBorne 3h ago

Miazaki is the head of FromSoft not just a game dev 💀

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u/StrangelySerious- 3h ago

????????? So???????????? And the sky is blue and water is good for you?????

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u/TG_Trash_are_better 2h ago

Idk why the other people you got into arguments with couldn't explain the very obvious point you need spelled out for you.

Yes a dev has no rights over what Sony does with the IP, obviously.

But FromSoft has to agree to make it for it to be good. Sony could hire some company to make what is basically a shitty knock off but people don't buy FromSoft games because of the IP. They buy them because FromSoft makes good games.

Holding the IP makes more sense then burning money just to get spite from gamers and FromSoft alike.

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u/TheIndigoKing777 1h ago

Fromsoft has to agree? Please, Sony could just hand over money bags to the Lies of P guys and be set.

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u/Ok_Nail2672 1h ago

He didn't have a falling out with them lmfao. They clearly have a good relationship if they respect his decision despite the fact that it's Sony IP.

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u/NapsterKnowHow 5h ago

But that ruins the narrative that Sony is to blame. Redditors hate that truth

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u/Funkwonker 5h ago

"He had a falling out with Sony"

"Ruins the narrative that Sony is to blame"

What?? If anything it reinforces it.

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u/StrangelySerious- 4h ago

What truth? Sony is the game publisher, they own the IP, Miazaki could throw a tantrum and it wouldn't change jack shit he and FromSoft can't tell the owner of the IP what to do with the IP.

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u/NapsterKnowHow 4h ago

Miazaki said no. It ends there. That puts the blame on them not Sony.

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u/StrangelySerious- 4h ago

Miazaki would have zero control over what the fuck Sony does with their IP lol, why the fuck people believe this nonsense. And Miazaki has in fact said in multiple interview that he wouldn't mind seeing one!

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u/NapsterKnowHow 4h ago

The proof is in the pudding. I don't know why people have such a hard time accepting that fact.

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u/StrangelySerious- 3h ago

WHAT fact lol You're just spouting nonsense xD

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u/NapsterKnowHow 3h ago

It's at the start of this thread LOL. You can't accept the truth.

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u/StrangelySerious- 2h ago

K weirdo Ô_ô

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u/NapsterKnowHow 2h ago

🤷‍♂️

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u/Daedolis 6h ago

No they didn't, and Sony doesn't need to ask him, they OWN THE IP, they don't need his permission 😂

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u/TheGrimmBorne 6h ago

The way the agreement for the IP worked when written, Sony has to have approval from FromSoft to make content with it, it was part of the agreement they made to get FromSoft to make it PS Exclusive. They had a falling out because FromSoft or Miazaki or someone else higher up in FromSoft didn’t like how Demon Souls Remake was handled and thus they refuse to let anyone touch their IP’s except themselves and they’re busy with new projects thus BB is trapped in dead IP land.

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u/Daedolis 6h ago

Lol no they don't, you have no idea what's in the contract and no company would agree to those terms. Sony owns the ip and can do whatever they want with it

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u/kinnoth 6h ago

"You have no idea what's in the contract, nobody knows what's in the contract except for me!!! Only I know about the legal agreement made between these two companies!!! Me and nobody else!!!"

-- you, for some reason

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u/Daedolis 5h ago

I never claimed to know the details of the contract, lol, but we do know for a fact that Sony owns the IP in totality and don't need Fromsift's permission to continue or remake the game.

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u/Ayershole Ryzen 7800X3D/3090/32GB RAM 5h ago

I know I know, reading is hard mate

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u/Daedolis 5h ago

"Sony owns the Bloodborne series, but Yoshida said in the interview that he believed Sony would respect Miyazaki’s wishes about not making a remake, and that appears to be how things played out" Thank you for providing a source that proves MY point. 😂🤦🏼

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u/Ayershole Ryzen 7800X3D/3090/32GB RAM 5h ago

nobody is debating that Sony own the IP, but that means NOTHING if they wont use the IP without Fromsofts blessing, who are the ones saying no to the remake. Stop arguing semantics.

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u/Daedolis 5h ago

You can't read huh? His literally argument was that they contractually can't do it without their approval.

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u/IntRonin 4h ago

I dont know why these people are arguing with you, you are correct.

Sony could wake up tomorrow and start on a bloodborne remake if they wanted to, they are just choosing not to as it against Miyazaki's wishes.

Which is what youve been saying - technically sony holds every card for this. And yes, that article did back you up too.

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u/Ayershole Ryzen 7800X3D/3090/32GB RAM 5h ago

'sony owns the IP and can do whatever they want with it' - except they wont touch it, by their own admission, without Fromsofts blessing.

I hope you never do business because you dont seem to understand having an ounce of grace.

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u/redskeletonbarbarian 5h ago

You're just not bright

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u/TheGrimmBorne 3h ago

People agree to terms like this ALL the time lmao, see: Resident Evil movies, literally ALL the live action’s technically have the IP but can’t do whatever they want with it.