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Obviously no broad strokes, but Argentinaās entire representation during this tournament was probably a net negative event for the countryās reputation. They had the largest local fan presence and gave some of the most toxic fan bases a run for their money. US sports seem borderline tame in comparison.
I watched three Argentina fans run from the supporters section up to the club seats and toss their drinks at England fans after they scored the winning goal. Not a single other Argentina fan around us seemed phased by it.
This is how they always play. In the 2014 final versus Germany, Basti Schweinsteiger was bleeding and Christoph Kramer had to be subbed out with a concussion (he kept asking if we had won yet), and the referee apparently thought it was not that bad.
I am so happy Paredes got kicked out and it cost them the game. The way he was playing it was kind of surprising that it took so long to get 2 yellow cards. The whole team worked harder at flopping, fouling and yelling at the refs than they did at playing football.
That was Enzo Fernandez, but otherwise I agree with what youāve written. Paredes got only got a yellow during the game, but apparently heās gotten a red card after the match for this thuggery which means heāll definitely receive a ban of a few matches.
Paredes and Fernandez were absolute dickheads throughout the match. Bullies on field literally. Absolute lack of sportsmanship. Without messi and Martinez the team sucks.
I was just saying this to my in-laws. They are huge Argentina fans. They donāt have the bench depth. Spain will probably win back to back because their players are not only young, they are still developing even younger talent. They played with an absurd amount of composure while the defending world champs looked āoffā and were giving attitude for no reason. It gave drunk friend you have to babysit vibes.
Henry said it clearly: Spain work from the base football, not 15 years old but from 12+, just look at Barcelona, all their categories play the same way and have the same arquetype of player.
Thatās why itās especially not cute. These are professionals who have dedicated their lives. Injuries can be career ending. Knee injuries took out both my father and cousin who played professionally, early in their careers. Itās devastating. The shit they pull (and get away with) isnāt funny to me.
Messi's an idiot for not retiring from the national team after the 2022 WC. Obviously his legacy will be fine in the grand scheme of things but his final run at the WC will be associated with this awful, ugly team that only made it to the finals by the skin of their teeth and then promptly crashed and burned when he could've ended up his international career on the highest of high notes. But egos will do that to you.
I was shouting curses in Italian at Argentina so, just waiting for their bones to dissolve like the boneless chicken they pretended to be on that field.
now that Messi retires, I'm ready to bet they are going to end like Italy and risking the qualification next WC.
The youngsters are all bottom league material. They have only the goalkeeper at world class
If he hasn't already. You don't get to doing this on such a public stage without getting away with it in private, be it to friends, family, girlfriends, strangers in bars, etc.
Wow, that alternative angle shows how fucked that whole ending was. Aside from Paredes choking the Spanish player (#4), you can see that as the Argentinian coach was pushing the Spanish player away, the other (I think?) Argentinian coaches also put their hands on #4 (one even appears to put his hand around #4ās neck too????). The poor Spanish player is looking around him, much calmer than Iād be, with a total āwth are you guys doingā expression as they manhandle him away.
Iām not the first, or the last, to say this, but football won today. So glad Argentina was not rewarded for their pathetic game today.
Him and other buddy who got the red card were on some other shit. All that and they couldnāt get one shot on target lol that got owned in that game even though itās only a one score win.
Basically, all Spain had to do was keep running so that Argentina got so tired that they couldnāt keep up and could no longer throw themselves on the ground in front of them like boneless chickens.
I'm glad the ref found his cards and actually applied them. There was a stat that there were an average of 22 fouls by Argentina before they get a card. There is a reason no one wanted them to win.
All I can think about is the stats on how much more likely men are to kill women after strangling them. If someoneās instant reaction is to go for the throat, how likely is it that itās the first time theyāve done it?
They've showed it repeatedly for 3 tournaments and have historically done this through several eras. The only people who will ever disagree and try to justify and rationalise it are ARG fans or people who don't watch.
They've shown their true colours for years. Same squad of players who created their own original racist chant to sing against Mbappe and the France team
Imagine your team scores a goal to send you to the WC final and your instinct is to go and scream in the faces of the opposition instead of celebrating with your team. Absolutely deserved the smack.
Exactly and it seemed like even his team mates were not approving of his behaviour considering everyone else was friendly with Jude. Like how pathetic that when youve scored youāre too busy trying to mock the other team instead of celebrating with yours. This is also so fucking violent and heās played dirty the entire tournament
horrible assault ofc but important that it happened to be the visual memory of Argentinaās effort in the WC. acting shitty not bc of tactics but because they are just despicable
Them with Paraguay and Uruguay are the holy trinity of dirty haramball football. No coincidence they back up each other. They are even hated by other latina american teams such as Mexico Brazil
May the women and children in this guy's life be protected from him. Someone who goes straight for the throat is much more likely to kill his partner. He needs help and prison asap before he does irreversible damage to someone when the cameras aren't rolling.Ā
I thought the same thing. The moment I saw him go straight for the throat I turned to my husband and said "yep that guy beats women". That level of aggression is not normal.
Absolutely disgusting behaviour. Deserves a ban for it. Going for another players throat, pushing someone to the ground and then still hitting them? Thereās no excuse for this sort of violence.
the fact that this all started because an argentina player was grabbing onto a spanish player who just wanted to run to his teammates to celebrate is crazy. you start the brawl and you also escalate it? i know they seem to be genetically incapable of having shame but i hope they find it one day.
after fifa didn't punish the players holding a political banner that is prohibited to display as per fifa's rules after their match against england i don't have much hope for this, but paredes does deserve a lengthy ban. i don't recall a headloss this bad.
i also found it a bit silly that scaloni and his staff were trying to de escalate but only with spanish players while paredes was genuinely fighting gavi. like, again, your folks are the ones who started it and also the ones escalating it, why are you holding eric garcia back?
just shameful. i'm not their biggest fan but thank god spain won this because god knows how insufferable they would become if they managed to win two wcs in a row
I told my brother "this match is going to end with them fighting". Either because Argentina loose and they will be sore losers or Argentina wins and they will be unbearable and picking fights. No surprise there at all.
My dad said "Argentina is playing anti-football" and one minute later Spain scored... lmaooo fools. I hate angry men. Get your fucking feelings in check you morons
What a disgusting bunch of losers. They have a track record of doing such things. They did the same thing last time with France but the referee was on their side sadly, and so they won. They always play dirty. But this time despite trying to do the same, they couldn't do any-fucking-thing bc Spain is that good. And so they devolve to such behaviour. Shameful.
genuinely asking, do people from Argentina support this behavior? I'd imagine that seeing so many people supporting Spain would make them realize something idk
the thing about argentina is that there's constant whitewashing and weird superiority complex, when they're just as fucked over by circumstances as the rest of LATAMĀ
much like everywhere else, though, the mix of "traditional values" and very intense fight against it (it's queer friendly and surprisingly pro-women, or at least it was pre-milei), which lead to certain types of people reaffirming the commitment to evil politics and conservatism
and it does bleed into football because football is part of politics in latin america, for better or for worse.
i would bet a lot of football supporters are the alpha male podcast bro types and their boomer relatives, so you can imagine they support this type of behavior
Went in having no dog in the fight but came out really disliking Argentina for this shit over and over all match. Spain truly played, "the beautiful game." Argentina played ugly bc they were no where as skilled, disciplined or together.Ā
Itās crazy that not only they lost, this may have been Messiās last World Cup, but the entire world basically came to the agreement that their country is really racist and unprofessional. Latinos have known this, but idk it feels different this time, whatever it is, glad theyāre finally being called out
This is how argentina have behaved all tournament. Absolutely disgraceful. I support West Ham united, Iāve seen my fair share of thugs, but this Argentina team is the most thuggish team Iāve ever seen. Nasty little bastards.
genuinely what is Argentinaās problem? It seems like after literally every match theyāre getting into scuffles with the other team and being a bunch of dicks.
Honestly, Argentina is lucky to not have played with 9 people instead... Enzo was trying to end someone's career and still asked for a VAR check and Paredes has definitely some anger issues. What an ungraceful way to end a tournament.
"If you don't win you can at least look good losing"Ā - I head my 12yo old said this to a teammate that got a little hot after losing a little league game. I didn't teach him that. I had no notes.
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