lol the ankle monitor, the shorts tan lines. Everyone was just a little messier and grimier compared to todayās stars. Love that era. For better or worse, we were authenticĀ
The way she stylizes her vocals is so unlistenable to me. I really tried to listen with an open mind but it sounds atrocious to me. Happy for anyone who is a fan though.
Iām not sure why I love Britney's music so much when I strongly dislike Tateās . Theyāre both ābaby voiceā singers, but I often find Britney's voice pleasant to listen to. Maybe itās the cursive singing that I donāt like.
Britney's stylized vocals are night and day from Tate's. They sound cool and sexy. She also doesn't do the baby voice for every single word and sings in different tones through out each song. She knows when to use the stylized baby voice and not overdo it.
Super nasally and sounds like she has a cough. I don't know how much she dances in her videos but she was a very talented dancer as a child in the band Walk off the Earth's - "If I Ruled the world" music video.
i only saw a snippet of the video on twitter and it just sounds like all the other boring stuff shes done before, and her dancing is the same old same old.
Itās not very lyrical or flowy but it lacks the more āhardā style where sheās nailing beats or has like real rhythm. So it feels like someone just doing a lot of technically impressive stuff at random.
Like a keyboard smash equivalent of a dance routine.
I'm convinced she's another 'for the male gaze' pop star. I have a music channel that's all just ridiculous pop and whenever she's come across, it all sounds generic try to be sultry and the 2 album covers I saw are her legs spread away from the camera and standing in her underwear in goalie gear (if she was a tendie, I stand corrected). Now this. Are we just going down a list of cliches are this point?
She is definitely for the male gaze, but are men listening to Tate McRae? Where is her music being streamed from??? It just sounds like a baby dubbed over a beat, I do not get it! I totally get the beauty aspect of it though she is gorgeous and dressed like a stripper, totally get it.
The major labels have bot farms that drum up both plays on streaming services and engagement on social media. I suspect thatās where a lot of the initial traction on these come from.
I think we underestimate the amount of women who center themselves, their lives, their looks, their behavior, etc. around men, menās approval and therefore the male gaze. So many women around me claim they used to be pick mes and that they cringe over their old selves, while they still center their lives around their men, their latest flirt, wanting a man, etc.
It feels almost as if they missed the point of what a pick me is - theyāre still pick mes, theyāre just incognito compared to before. Itās like they want male approval but donāt want to appear as if they want it, if that makes sense? Like how everyone wants to have a good style, but if you try too hard, you ruin said style by being a try hard.
These women LOVE famous women who appeal to the male gaze. Itās as though theyāre allowed to say āI love appealing to the male gaze!ā by saying āI love this woman!ā In reality, they dream of being her and being able to be so openly lusted after by men.
If youāve been to her concerts itās mostly girls/women, some gay men and a very small percentage of straight men.
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lol im obsessed with her song tit for tat but everytime it comes on carplay i cant help but look at the sexy eldritch creature pose sheās doing on the album art
i've always found her choreo dull, she always seems to just do the same dance moves and she doesn't really do it that well. she seems like more of a backup dancer than the main performance which is odd considering her whole thing is supposed to be dancing.
I agree. Her dancing isnāt that great. Idk how to explain it but it always seems like sheās trying really hard. She gets Britney comparisons, but Britney always made it look effortless.
Exactly what I always say. Sheās technically a great dancer, but sheās just trying so so hard. And itās not the choreo either. When Sean Bankhead works with Victoria Monet itās all effortless groove, Tate just has no real musicality. Itās trained, not felt.
I really really want to give her a chance! But you can only go so far with being a raunchy Y2K tribute act lol. I love her dance record features though. 10:35 and You are still on heavy rotation for me. I also like cut my hair and better than I was. I wish sheād dabble back in to more darker pop. I feel thereās an opening for that right now. But alasā¦
I played it on Spotify and found myself not even paying attention or interest after seeing so many people say she never missesā¦Iām surprised she beat out Olivia and Chappell too
i feel like weāre really in a hitless era as well, thereās been like 2 sort of hit songs this year maybe. 2024 was so iconic and itās been downhill ever since. partly bc the entire internet is so negative and refuses to enjoy anything anymore.
Realistically there's just less "radio listening" and "MTV watching" than there used to be, which were some of the big vessels for learning about new hits.
Now everyone can create personally-cultivated playlists effortlessly on mobile devices that can be taken anywhere. Sure maybe you let Spotify's DJ pick some songs for you, but in general Spotify will rotate in a lot of songs it already tracked you listening to unless you specifically ask it not to. And that's IF you use the DJ rather than just your hand-crafted playlists.
I've been loving tinashes new album, I swear I'm not a promo bot lmao. I been listening when I cook when I drive etc. Crash out I think is my fav, I have a few favs but that one and oh gosh Nobody want to dance anymore, melatonin, too easy, pillow talk. Guys I'm sorry I'm just enjoying this as a 2 On fan.
I also use YT music for this reason. I also think it has better sound quality than Spotify. Apple Music sounds better than Spotify too I found in the past
Genuine question: What do you mean with "dead"? Few users? No indicator of a hit song anymore because music tastes have become so nichey? Or just using forced stats to determine a #1? I would have thought that they are other songs with 5 mio streams, nut they were excluded because Spotify just counted songs released within the last x hrs or something.
Iāve been sitting on cancelling Spotify for too long now but Iāve had it since Premium came with Hulu and we watch several shows on it soā¦. I embarrassingly hate to admit that Iām torn. Granted that I do use Spotify basically every day but never for top 40 todayās hits type of music.
I still donāt know who she is, where she came from, how she sounds like or the type of music she makes, I only know the name because it has been on headlines or posts, I couldnāt even say I know her face to recognize her in a group of people.
Iām not a fan of hers (and Iāve even been dv to shit for criticism of her outfits on the fashion sub) but after watching the video and listening to what I could understand of her mumble singing I thought the video/song were about her wanting to be her own housewife. Like her making her own millions and being rich and vacationing and doing āfunā rich wife shit from her own money. But from comments here and the music video post idk if Iām giving the benefit of the doubt or just misunderstanding the vibe lol
Thats the vibe I got from it too. I think people commenting didnt listen, see the name and Pic and assume she's a trad wife spokesperson, so they instantly hate.
Not a great song though, very average, the tyoe of song you forgets on an album.
I genuinely feel bad for this generation because their "pop girlies" are not it. Growing up I had Britney & Christina among others but now there's this one, Madison Beer, Addison Rae etc. that shouldn't be making music are just lucky they have the following they have.
This is such a lame take. People like Britney and Chrstina had the same conversations about them . Hate on the new generation and how the old generation had it better.
This exactly. You could do the exact same thing but people would act like it is the worst shit ever because they do not like you or praise you way way more than you deserve because they like you. Same people will pretend to be the fairest most objective people on earth who are only swayed by science and facts.Ā
I made the same remark yesterday, they are both the same type of artist in different - and both songs were written by Julia Michaels, as another user pointed out.
Theyāre both fine and not nearly worth this amount of vitriol.
I'd never heard of Adela until a week ago and I'm not really blown away by her either tbf, I don't know that she'll be around in the public consciousness very long.
Excuse my 2:30am tangent, but maybe I've just aged out of pop that doesn't have something more interesting happening underneath the surface? Newer artists like Tate, Addison, Katseye, Alex Warren, most K-Pop acts, etc. just do absolutely nothing for me, because I feel as if their music could've been written and performed by damn near anybody.
The musical equivalent of Ikea flat-packs, if you will.
Youāre not wrong, weāre in an age with both great pop music being made and also the most generic, bland, soulless garbage ever called āmusicāĀ
I do not understand Katseyeās popularity other than the fact that theyāre all just hot. In every image I see of them, they all have the same blank, vapid,
Ā vaguely sexy stare. Like, itās almost as if thereās nothing going on behind the eyes other than ālook aesthetically appealing at all timesā and, imo, aesthetics are not what Iām looking for in a good musicianĀ
Why is she always doing the same exact tired leg up move? Like yes, we get it, you are flexible, but it just doesnāt fit in this music video and looks weird.
Shes sooo boring. Her dancing is nice but itās all under this non chalant guise thing she does. And singing? I mean I guess the producers and writers write the pop music and she does it. So weird. Sheās like a character pop artist that parodies another one in a movie, but sheās real(?)
Tate McRae went to Sabrina's housewarming party two summers ago and surreptitiously took some of her nachos home in a tupperware, now's she's found them in the back of her fridge and she's finally ready to reheat them
The maga thing is because sheās Albertan and did an ad for the American Olympic team. That doesnāt make her Maga, but it was an odd thing for a Canadian to do at that specific moment in time amidst the tensions with the states and amidst Albertaās ongoing separatist movement. Just giving it some context, not saying I agree with anyone
Itās not feelings. She JUST dated one of the most vocally MAGA athletes out there. Shes from Alberta: the most conservative provinces in the country. She represented the AMERICAN Olympic team this past Olympics. Sheās been indifferent dead silent on her political beliefs. Do the math.
Tbf, Hughes is nowhere near the most vocally maga- that's why people were caught off guard at the white house reaction, though probably shouldn't have been. The Tkachuks are by far the most vocal and visible. The Hughes just had the bigger moment in the game. This is giving people like Guerin (general manager for the Minnesota wild currently) deniability- the dude who arranged for Patel to be in the room, the phone call, the visit, ect.
It's not I don't think he's maga, most male hockey players sadly are which is why the NHL is culturally such a shitshow, but it is that he's by far not the most vocal, and there's about 34 other dudes involved that love he became the lightning rod so people stop paying attention to the rest of them.
Thatās why I said āone of the most,ā honestly. I know he doesnāt take the cake but since the white house visit, heās not been shy. Catās out of the bag. That was a grand moment for the Admin. But yes, the whole of hockey is a shit show.
I mean, not really- I follow the Devils and have since I was a kid. Hes not my favorite Devil, but you can't ignore the buzz around him, and he is legitimately a great player in the hockey sense. He hasn't mentioned Trump or politics since the White House visit, and didn't talk about it prior. I am of the mind silence is telling, but he's also not out there advertising. It also isn't a lie that prior he was known to be a supporter of women's hockey, which makes the joke reaction more confusing- only 3 of the men went to support the women's team in their gold medal game- the Hughes Brothers and JT Miller. Honestly trash behavior from the rest of them and Im still surprised that doesn't get called out much on the others
The discourse is interesting in a bad sense, especially since so many of the guys came back acting like trash to their own teams, but we thankfully aren't seeing that from Hughes- he's been one of the least unhinged of the lot so far
sheās been very vocal about lgbt support & anti ice. itās crazy to make a judgment because of the province sheās from (not to mention classist, itās just like the americans who shit on rural impoverished appalachians because itās trendy to do so & because theyāre white) also can we stop blaming women for what men do? she hasnāt been dating that guy in almost a year
The comparison to impoverished Appalachians is not at all apt in this case, what in the actual fuck? Albertans are some of the wealthiest and most privileged in Canada.
Next time I choose to date a vocal, literal nazi, Iāll understand that I just have to wait it out and my complicity will be written off by you because I happen to not hate gay people. How anti-ICE can someone be if she was in an intimate loving relationship with someone who advocates for it. Someone who takes pleasure in supporting the administration.
It must be lovely to be you, and to pull out irrelevant buzzwords like āclassistā (???? Lolllll) as you go to bat for a woman who will gladly kick her country to the curb as long as the paycheque is good enough.
āBlaming women for what men do.ā Iām sorry, but what a cop out. She is intelligent and she can own her decisions. Sheās made many questionable ones that lend themselves to people putting the pieces together in the way they have.
You can critique her for dating a conservative but it is incredibly disrespectful to victims of the Holocaust and hate crimes to equate this to being a nazi.
Honestly, my heart is with the good folks in the urban centres and elsewhere whose views do not align with Albertaās reputation. Iām not sure why you donāt like her, but if itās because of her complicity with the administration, my heart is with you too. Lol.
she's been indifferent dead silent on her political beliefs.
Math would say that would imply she isn't very political making every you said before that mean fuck all lol. Not everyone is into politics. And a 23 year old dancy pop star is the last person I would expect to give a fuck about politics lol.
People want to know if youāre morally sound before they support you. Donāt pretend like this is just about something inane like fiscal conservatism. This is literally people dying. Being shot. Being held in camps. Being torn away from their children.
Yeah. People think morals are important. Sorry? I guess? Lol.
people just don't like Tate McRae lol. you could find a problematic association for every big celebrity. Reddit darling Olivia Rodrigo has actively platformed Gwen Stefani who is openly very conservative. she's also close friends with Tate, if we are to play the association game, but nobody cares about these things until it comes to an artist they dislike
Thank you for getting it. Lol. And my comment definitely isnāt reflective of all Albertans (really, bless ALL the good ones), but itās definitely a dominant cultural thing there, this conservatism. Being a Canadian myself I can acknowledge that.
Iāll quote what I replied to someone else: āIāll admit thatās my weakest and least fair point on its own. If it were a one-off, it wouldnāt matter. But.. to quote Kamalaā¦ it 'exists in the context' (lol) of a much bigger pattern. Her other choices consistently lean conservative, or at least show sheās comfortable being complicit with the administration. Maybe itās an Alberta cultural thing, maybe not, but the pattern is definitely thereā
No hate to this lady but the only time I ever hear about her is on Reddit or TikTok. Donāt think Iāve ever seen any of her promo or heard anyone talk about her IRL. Iāve never heard any of her songs either.
Itās really weird but I canāt fully articulate it.
No shade but her fan base is young. Like middle school-college, so thatās why itās so geared towards TikTok, but I would argue thatās at least a niche she has over other artists like Zara Larsson
Her music is just so incredibly bland to me! I saw the video pop up on my feed and gave it a try but itās just awful. Especially during the time we currently live in. I have no idea how sheās at #1 unless itās bots and payola
normally i don't jump on hate bandwagons but for some reason i really can't stand her. i suppose it's because she's not very vocally talented. she could be a great songwriter for a better singer.
As a Canadianā¦. Tate McRae is such a disappointment, I was rooting for her. But when she appeared to take up sides for the Americans during the Olympics, right in the middle of threats against our country by mango titsā¦ I gave up. She literally seems like an airhead with not a single bit of backbone in her body. Thatā¦ and her weird mumbly baby voice annoy the shit out of me
she's attractive and an excellent dancer, but her music sounds like those fake pop songs on TV shows, where they take the piss out of them for being overly processed.
Her lead singles have never stuck for meā¦ Iāve always found her songs with the most promise end up as album tracks (bloodonmyhands, run for the hills, etc.,)
That being said, this is the most nothing burger song sheās ever released. It goes nowhere, the concept is kinda silly, and sheās kinda been stuck in this early 2000s sound for YEARSSSS. Would be nice to see her lean into something new.
I was cheering for her, even though sheās not that good, because sheās from Calgary, but dropped her as soon as she did the NBC sports ad. Like girl, America has dozens of you already. All the aspects that made you stand out have been flattened to make you as one-note as your mumbling voice.
As a dancer, Tate is easily one of the absolute best in pop right now, but her music just feels so generic to me. I just canāt pinpoint what her signature brand as an artist actually is.
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Iām ngl I didnāt either before this thread but the fact that sheās able to garner this much of a response is probably part of it
If youāre a pop star and this many people care about your Spotify debut, even if in a āwhy do people care about herā kind of way, it means youāre doing something right
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