r/prawokrwi • u/apizzlez • 5d ago

Eligibility Help Determining Whether My Polish Citizenship Line Is Intact — Wozniak Family

PS: (Mods, Template post was deleted) Hi everyone, I'm researching my Polish ancestry to determine whether I may qualify for Polish citizenship by descent. I'd appreciate help verifying records and understanding the Polish Citizenship Act of 1920.

My family line:

  1. Michael Wozniak (Michał Woźniak) — Great-great-grandfather
  1. Stella Gorecki — Great-great-grandmother
  1. John Michael Wozniak — Great-grandfather
  1. Agnes Mary Hart — Great-grandmother
  • Born March 30, 1921, in Troy, New York.
  • Parents: John A. Hart and Agnes Byron.
  • Married John Michael Wozniak.
  • Died April 12, 1997, in Sacramento, California.
  • Birth, marriage, & death certificates: Not found yet (?).

My line continues through my grandmother Barbara Wozniak, my mother Jennifer, and me.

My main questions:

  1. How can I establish whether Michael qualified as a Polish citizen under the 1920 Polish Citizenship Act, given that he emigrated in 1907?
  2. Could John Michael, born in the United States in 1914, have acquired Polish citizenship when the law took effect in 1920?
  3. Could Michael's subsequent U.S. naturalization have affected John's citizenship? Did Michael ever complete naturalization?
  4. What records should I obtain to determine whether citizenship could pass through every generation to me?
  5. Since Michael was reportedly born in Galicia under Austria-Hungary, could there be any separate Austrian citizenship connection? Is there any plausible German or Russian connection through this family?

I'm particularly interested in advice from people experienced with Polish citizenship confirmation, the 1920 law, and genealogy in the former Austrian partition.

Thank you for any research leads or guidance!

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Title: Help Determining Whether My Polish Citizenship Line Is Intact — Wozniak Family

Hi everyone, I'm researching my Polish ancestry to determine whether I may qualify for Polish citizenship by descent. I'd appreciate help verifying records and understanding the Polish Citizenship Act of 1920.

My family line:

  1. Michael Wozniak (Michał Woźniak) — Great-great-grandfather
  1. Stella Gorecki — Great-great-grandmother
  1. John Michael Wozniak — Great-grandfather
  1. Agnes Mary Hart — Great-grandmother
  • Born March 30, 1921, in Troy, New York.
  • Parents: John A. Hart and Agnes Byron.
  • Married John Michael Wozniak.
  • Died April 12, 1997, in Sacramento, California.
  • Birth, marriage, & death certificates: Not found yet (?).

My line continues through my grandmother Barbara Wozniak, my mother Jennifer, and me.

My main questions:

  1. How can I establish whether Michael qualified as a Polish citizen under the 1920 Polish Citizenship Act, given that he emigrated in 1907?
  2. Could John Michael, born in the United States in 1914, have acquired Polish citizenship when the law took effect in 1920?
  3. Could Michael's subsequent U.S. naturalization have affected John's citizenship? Did Michael ever complete naturalization?
  4. What records should I obtain to determine whether citizenship could pass through every generation to me?
  5. Since Michael was reportedly born in Galicia under Austria-Hungary, could there be any separate Austrian citizenship connection? Is there any plausible German or Russian connection through this family?

I'm particularly interested in advice from people experienced with Polish citizenship confirmation, the 1920 law, and genealogy in the former Austrian partition.

Thank you for any research leads or guidance!

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u/Jessicas_skirt Verified Contributor 5d ago

I answered their question as well, in a sub that's not even for Polish citizenship

https://www.reddit.com/r/citizenshipgenealogy/s/Qsx8hLe0Xk

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

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u/apizzlez 5d ago

Haha sorry, I couldn't take no for an answer without atleast a few other view points, I know your an expert and I do appreciate you truly. Thank you for your time.

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u/[deleted] 5d ago edited 5d ago

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u/apizzlez 5d ago

I talked to her earlier today she said she'd be willing to learn Polish together so she can get the KP. Thanks for the help smoothmongolot, your advice is very helpful.

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u/InvestigatorDue6498 3d ago

This seems like a very long and convoluted process, but worth a try I guess. OP, once upon a time you could ask the President for citizenship in these circumstances and he might give it to you, but I understand that’s no longer really happening. Good luck!

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u/Jessicas_skirt Verified Contributor 3d ago

You still could apply for a Presidential Grant, it's just that this president isn't as likely to approve it and it's a purely discretionary decision by the president

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u/InvestigatorDue6498 3d ago

Right. That’s what I understand from others here. 

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u/AutoModerator 5d ago

Pre-1920 Jus Soli Births and Article 2 of the 1920 Polish Citizenship Act

A person born in a jus soli country (e.g., the USA, Canada, or Argentina) before January 31, 1920, generally did not acquire Polish citizenship under Art. 2 of the 1920 Act. The law explicitly excluded individuals who already held another citizenship at that time.

Nearly a century of legal precedent, including Circular No. 18 (1925) and modern Supreme Administrative Court (NSA) rulings, confirms this. The exclusion also applies to minors, even if their parents later acquired Polish citizenship.

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u/apizzlez 5d ago

I do believe you are most likely correct but I still would like the opportunity for other input. Thank you.

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u/5thhorseman_ Verified Contributor 5d ago

It's one of the most recurring questions on this sub. Polish courts have ruled on it a century ago and have held the line since then. Your GGF had a route to re-naturalize in Poland, which he clearly didn't do.

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u/Low_Magician_9456 5d ago

The 1914 birth in the USA, a jus soli country is a definitive end to Polish citizenship lineage. It is explicit in the law and has been tested many times.

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u/ProgrammerBig6254 5d ago

Your GREAT-grandfather was born in the United States in 1914 when Poland wasn’t a country. I seriously don’t understand why you can’t accept what multiple people have already told you. You don’t have a claim to citizenship because there never was any citizenship for you to claim.

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

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u/apizzlez 5d ago

Thank you, everyone is getting so mad that I didn’t take the very first answer for truth, that would be dumb on my part. People need to chill out a little.

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u/Master-Detail-8352 Mod | Zarząd 5d ago

You made 12 separate posts
It is difficult to receive bad news, but perhaps you are not in the position to tell others to chill. If you still have doubt, please pay a provider to explain (exactly as we have) that the 1914 birth in the US cuts the line, and that likewise you are not eligible for KP. Maybe Italy will work for you

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u/apizzlez 5d ago

All of the posts were made at the exact same time before I knew the answer. It wasn’t cope, it was efficient to post in more than one to get an answer from my point of view. I didn’t really know the right subreddits to post the question. But thank you. I appreciate it.

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u/OilPsychological1499 5d ago

My great-grandfather and great-grandmother were born in Poland and emigrated to Brazil between 1894 and 1896. My grandfather was born in 1926. Does that mean my great-grandparents would have been eligible to acquire Polish citizenship after 1920?

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u/Jessicas_skirt Verified Contributor 5d ago

!Template in a new post

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u/apizzlez 5d ago edited 5d ago

How is gathering more than one persons conclusion “not accepting” calm down. Would you take the very first persons conclusion for truth? That would be foolish. I let multiple people from the community draw a conclusion. Because that’s the smart thing to do.