r/starcitizen • u/Big_Space_2 • 6h ago
DISCUSSION Anyone else think the RSI Hermes is seriously underrated?
I feel like the Hermes deserves more appreciation. The design looks fantastic, the 288 SCU cargo grid is actually practical, and that rail-mounted tractor beam is such a good idea.
It's one of those ships where the overall layout makes sense for what it's supposed to do. I love that RSI managed to make a medium freighter that looks this good while still giving it some decent firepower.
Obviously the rear entrance could be better, but I think the Hermes gets a lot more right than wrong.
Curious what everyone else thinks. Is the Hermes still one of your favorite medium haulers, or have you moved on to something else?
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u/tfarrister youtube 6h ago
Yes! Such a good hauler. I picked up the Centaurus and wondered whether a melt was on the cards. But decided no, hauling is just so good with the Hermes.
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u/AWerewolfDad 6h ago
Listen to my brother in Hermes. He is wise and super handsome.
But yeah the Hermes is a truly underrated ship. It’ll do a lot of mid to high level PvE, too. It’s one of the best ships in the game.
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u/FaolanG Multi-Moderator 6h ago
It really is a great hauler. I melted mine but I look at it every now and again. I have a Hull B now that fits the role fine but the ease of use for the Hermes is not to be understated. I like the one floor easy in easy out, simple loading and unloading.
I used to drop ground vehicles for org ops and such but now that my playtime dropped I’ve been reconfiguring the fleet and may pick one up for shits. I don’t know why the ladder in the Asgard annoys me so much but it does lol.
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u/Purple_Location_2529 6h ago
For the Hermes, if it wasnt for that tiny rear door, it m8ghtve been more popular
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u/Special_Cicada6968 5h ago
100% my issue with it. I'll take the elevator of the Mk.IV or the pop top of the Ironclad over that narrow little entryway.
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u/PanicSwtchd Grand Admiral 3h ago edited 2h ago
It’s a flying workshop if you want it to be…slap some fabricators and stuff inside and you are good to go.
With all the furniture and cabinets they’ve been making available the Hermes is a very nice canvas for a makeshift utility ship. Weapons cabinets and seats and you got a dropship.
It’s the embodiment of jack of all trades and master of nothing like the C1 was. There are better ships but it can do a bunch of jobs well enough.
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u/ROPS-Lazarus 2h ago
You make a very interesting point
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u/PanicSwtchd Grand Admiral 1h ago
I thought the Hermes was kind of pointless until a buddy showed me his setup. It was a perfectly serviceable hauler but most of the other haulers did it better.
My buddy pointed out, however, that the Hermes is a large open cargo grid that is airlocked and portable. When all the fabricators stuff came out, he just started storing his crafting mats and fabricators inside it and do what he needed to there.
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u/MarkyMarkFr RSI Galaxy 6h ago
It is very good as a hauler, but the Connie MK5 just took it's place as it's (almost) capable of hauling as good and also better at fighting
I upgraded my Hermes for the MK5 but I loved every second with my Hermes!
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u/Blood-Wolfe Asgard Enthusiast 6h ago
I enjoyed my Hermes until I got the Railen so my Hermes became a Centaurus.
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u/AbnormallyBendPenis STAR-SQ4V-RFQ9 6h ago
I upgrade it to the Mk V. Primarily due to the back door being such a pain to load and unload when it’s nearly full.
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u/unsivil Space Trucker 5h ago
As a Hermes lover myself, I like how you left out the fact...
the Hermes elevator is always unlocked to ANYONE.
That alone means I won't haul with it.
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u/Tw33die84 [MSR] [600i Ex] 6h ago
The small entry is the downside. I like it tho personally and have one. Plus it is a little slow. But looks good.
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u/RenKrios Super High Admiral 4h ago
It should be faster given the vulnerability of its engines. It's my only gripe about it. Easily one of my favorite ships.
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u/DetectiveFinch Smolaris enjoyer 5h ago
Love the exterior looks of the Hermes, but I think the interior design is too bland. The small cargo door is still a problem in my opinion, even when the moving tractor beam is working as intended. For me, the Mk.V is a much more attractive ship, more multi role capable and I really feel at home in the interior with the windows and the nice habitation area. It's almost like a miniature Normandy from Mass Effect.
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u/NackteElfe 2h ago
The small cargo door doubles the loading time for me and is the reason I stopped using the Hermes. It will be the next ship to be ccu ed. Which is unfortunate because I live everything else about a ship. But since Auto loading hardly is a thing and I am not interested to spend 90% of a haul in my hangar that ship has to go.
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u/charmin_7 5h ago
I like the Hermes for its range, a well done cargo grid (no crude numbers) the simple internal layout and general fun to use. But yeah, the Smolaris is hart to beat.
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u/realRaiderDave 6h ago
Its my main ship. I love it. Its the ship bound to my gamepackage. Its beautifully done inside and out. It has range for days. Might not be the best fighter, but certainly not the most easy target.
I cycled alot of ships with my store credit. But the Hermes is by far my favorite.
The available paint jobs arent so great, but the default pain job is amazing as it is.
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u/Mintyxxx That was just noise 6h ago
It's a good ship, it does what it needs to and can survive a beating (though it will come away scarred). Upgraded mine to the mkV though as I have a Hull B for hauling
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u/Appattamus 6h ago
I've only flown one a couple times as a rental, but I wasn't impressed. It gave me an overall "meh" feeling. To each their own though.
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u/vestara22 6h ago
Yes! Its armor is tough even if shields don't last as long.
Its a great blockade-runner type of ship and the rail is the stuff of dreams! I pretty much outgrew the freight gameloop of SC, but it holds a special spot for me while I was waiting for my Mk5 Constellation.
The hermes is fast and wide in a good way too!
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u/BuckarooBanzai42 6h ago edited 5h ago
Absolutely, I've loved my RSI Hermes since upgrading my Zeus CL to it. It's not meant to fight, just taking cargo from point A to point B. And it also looks amazing! Ever since seeing the Apollo, I had wished that it had a cargo variant, so when the Hermes was released it was an immediate buy for me.
But, I despise the rear entrance. For a cargo ship, it should have been given better options for loading cargo. The sliding tractor beam helped, though, and I love using it.
Now with the Mk5 that outclassed it in every way, I'm torn about upgrading. I like the smaller size and look of the Hermes over the Centaurus, but the Centaurus is going to survive longer if I do run into a few enemies.
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u/RecklessCreation 4h ago
i really like the hermes, i like the cut and dry no BS 'new' rsi style interiors (same with aurora MK2, and meteor, and now the MK5). I doubt i would have given it a proper shake if I hadn't won one. i'd be fine with it being my only pledge ship (it's not, and i'll be upped at some point)
I'd LOVE to see something between meteor and hermes, RSI cutlass basically lol
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u/heayo 3h ago
Zeus CL?
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u/PopRap72 oldman 3h ago
Literally this.
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u/Successful_Line_5992 2h ago
he said no BS 'new' rsi style interiors
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u/PopRap72 oldman 2h ago
What BS does the Zeus have? Genuine question.
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u/Successful_Line_5992 7m ago
It's the only hauler ship that wastes space on a messhall and extra beds and it's cargo bay suffers. Cutlass black, c1 don't waste space and 3 beds has it competing with the old Freelancer Max. Even the RSI hermes has 2 beds. I love the New Cent and Polaris but the Zeus wastes a lot of space..... The result is it's cargo bay rated for 128 sometimes struggles to fit 100.
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u/RecklessCreation 2h ago
your not wrong, i ment more the style design of of the meteor/hermes, and 4 pilot weapons.. even 2x s4, 2x s3, (did the zeus get pilot control of the remote turret?) . I don't hate the dorito(s), just perfer the design cues of the meteor/hermes
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u/ComradeWinston Anvil Enjoyer/OG Backer 6h ago
Man, I just don't get the cult following of this claustrophobic frog. Its too big for what it offers and there are far too many ships with more/better features in the same size class.
If the Apollo hull remained in the Medium ship class, this would be an awesome little hauler.
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u/roadrunner_68 5h ago
How can anyone say the Hermes is to big for what it offers it is one of the most space efficient haulers with interior cargo, Its just a cargo hold with a cockpit attached.
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u/nooster 6h ago edited 5h ago
Nope. It's actually, even now, generally overrated. Its general design is poor. The tractor mostly a gimmicky mess that usually drops its freight before you can get it fully placed. The grid is poorly designed such that you have to fill it specifically, and can't easily fit medium to large boxes. The back door is dumb. I'd actually say it's one of the worst medium freight ships in the game.
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u/Rttboom RSI Galaxy fanboy 6h ago
What are you on about?
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u/Brightmist 5h ago
They're on point. Between RAFT and Railen, Hermes is irrelevant for hauling. Things like Connie/Starlancer are just better multi-role options.
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u/roadrunner_68 5h ago
The Hermes blows the Starlancer out of the water, I have never hauled in a ship more miserable to load than the Starlancer Max.
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u/Skylar77_1 5h ago
The hermies is a lovely ship and is loved by many but suffers from the lack of defensive armorments outside that it’s a highly regarded ship and is recommended by many for getting industry moving
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u/Apart_Pumpkin_4551 4h ago
A good ship, no doubt, attractive and well-crafted, but limited.
It cannot carry large vehicles, which is a problem; after all, this is a ship that costs 220 dollars. If it were 200 dollars or less, it would be a more viable option.
If you’re only looking for cargo capacity, there are better choices; if you want more versatility, there are also better alternatives. It sort of falls into a middle ground, but it remains a solid ship.
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u/driley97 4h ago
I thought I was going to love it when it came out, but it’s sat around more than it’s been used for hauling. It’s good for exactly 1 thing and suffers from Zeus Door Syndrome (ZDS) where the interior could hold a Nursa or MTC but is too narrow to get one in. The Centaurus has effectively killed it for me and the rumored Taurus Mk V will likely boast a lot more room for cargo on grid than even the Hermes.
Despite this ranting, and the elevator issues it has, it looks good, and quite unique compared to all the Doritos we have been getting from RSI lately, so that’s the one thing it has going for it.
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u/Star_Denizen 4h ago
Hermes would be a great ship if my fleet hadn’t already out grown it.
I will sometimes fly it for light cargo runs but I don’t do those often I typically just use a Railen.
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u/MKjUgf 2h ago
I bought the Hull B already and out of coincidence renting the Hermes (before that the Freelancer MAX).
I will not buy the Hermes as well. I think - without taking the actual time - I can load/unload the full 512 Hull B quicker than the 288 Hermes.
I also like the medium size better.
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u/alvehyanna Aegis is Love, Aegis is Life. 2h ago
The opening is too small and it slows down loading and unloading to much. After owning an Asgard, then adding a hullb and moving to Railen...hermes is just to annoying as a hauler by comparison to any of those 3.
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u/prudiisten commerce raider 56m ago
They didn't want people to use it as a drop ship for vehicles so their solution is to make the entrance slightly smaller than the vehicle they don't want to fit. They don't give too shits passed that.
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u/BandagesTheMender 1h ago
You can fit over 500 in a Hermes, and pirates can't see it. You can also overload ship guns, which the bull B can't since it's not enclosed.
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u/Professional-Fig-134 misc 1h ago
I love everything about it on paper. But I just don’t know. Maybe I need to spend some more time flying it.
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u/nicarras 28m ago
It got a crappy door because we'd put a Nursa in it otherwise and we couldn't have that at the time this thing hit the pledge store the same time as the Apollos with their medbeds. Everyone would have just bought Hermes and Nursas.
If I had a Hermes I'd be melting it for a MK5 right now.
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u/dokkababecallme 6h ago
The Hermes is too sluggish now that the MK5 exists.
I mean, it was always sluggish, but, the comparison makes it really obvious how badly tuned the Hermes is.
It should be a really snappy medium ship. Yes, it holds a lot, but the door is annoying and the shielding is relatively weak, being the whole "multiple S2" thing which is just really garbage on a ship that size.
I love the Hermes. Please don't get it twisted.
The hull shape, the interior, the cockpit elevator, everything.
I did, however, melt mine eventually because it's just so awfully slow on the accels. It's kinda miserable to fly. The weapons loadout is excellent though.
At least on the MK5, it's a big ass ship, so the accels make a modicum of sense.
IMO the Hermes should have something much closer to MSR accels.
Left to right - Hermes / Cent / MSR
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u/Hobbymate_ 6h ago
It’s not underrated at all. I’d say it’s very popular among haulers. It’s the perfect baby of a Taurus and a C1 Spirit, if a tad slow.. but that cargo deck is huge and makes up for it
People outgrow the C1, Raft and Taurus straight into the Hermes/HullB and Railen/C2 now
..all the “raft-raft-raft” annoying chatter is gone, I love it
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u/TweissInferno 5h ago
the Hermes is double the price of the Raft, and a lot harder to load.
Raft is still amazing for the price.
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u/FeralRaccoon1973 Gold Plated 600i 4h ago
Hermes/HullB and Railen/C2
I have all 4 of these and love my Hull B (Cargo Cockroach) the most. I use it constantly.
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u/Merchanteer 5h ago
Honestly the hermes is still my goto. I still wish I could park a medivac in it but not a deal breaker
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u/Kuftubby Soon (tm) 5h ago
The tiny door in the back and the offset pilot seat ruins it for me personally
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u/EliRocks Liberated 5h ago
I loved the Hermes when I had it. If I had to choose between it and the current Centaurus. I would choose the Hermes.
If they bring out a full cargo variant of the Connie, that has a decently large amount of cargo then I might get it instead of getting another Hermes.
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u/maedhros338 new user/low karma 3h ago
Upgrading my Hermes to a Railen is my greatest regret in my fleet.
Edit: and it seems like the Railen is a dead end without shelling out much more money or a lucky sale.
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u/ThrowAway-47 2h ago
The need for CIG for an anti-Nursa nerf to door size is the only reason I don't see myself hauling with it. Mind you I'd be using it as a vehicle transport dropship if not for that problem so I guess it's needed.
I wish CIG would stop this war on respawns. It's been madening how often I park a ship somewhere and the ship just gets cleaned up rather than destroyed or otherwise eliminated. Gives me very little hope for persistence that water bottles stick around longer than my unbricked active respawn center ship...
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u/Lad-Commander 1h ago
I disagree, if every ship that had cargo was made to fit a Nursa then the Apollo and other med ships would be useless, even more so than they are atm. And if they had to design every ship with space to fit a nursa then it invalidates drop ships and vic drop ships lile the Herc and ICA
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u/ghodan7 drake 54m ago
At the minimum of 1.3K SC players disagree on your Ursa medvac stand point https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/s/nRjkO1oOQC
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u/Lad-Commander 32m ago
The post said that it shouldn't, just like I said. The Nursa shouldn't even be a thought when designing ships. When an engineer makes a car he doesnt think, this should fit Shaq even though 99.9% of the population isnt even close to being over 7' tall. Im not against the Nursa because i get it, shit happens and you dont wanna respawn in Nyx when you were in Pyro 1 but the Nursa should not be a bullet point when making ships
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u/tsittler *cries in merchantman* 5h ago
The Hermes has a great silhouette and is an efficient way to carry 288 scu.
The Connie Markmarkmarkmarkmark is larger, but carries only 48 scu less. And it carries vehicles.
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u/RenKrios Super High Admiral 4h ago edited 4h ago
I've fit close to *400 scu, an ATLS, ATLS Geo, 2x Pulse, and a UTV in the Hermes at the same time before. It's pure cargo. The cargo area in the Centy has no flexibility beyond its published size
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u/Ok_Understanding1984 new user/low karma 1h ago
They just got this ship wrong. Not every ship is a win. Great looking exterior.
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u/Walltar 6h ago
Well... I have to say that getting Mk5 makes it hard to keep my Hermes, but it is definitely one of my top 10 ships in SC...