News 5 youths, including 13-year-old, charged after assaulting police officers
https://toronto.citynews.ca/2026/10/16/5-youths-including-13-year-old-charged-after-assaulting-police-officers/93
u/CranberryNapalm 1d ago
When I was 13 I liked playing with my dog and watching WWF…..
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u/SevenInch_Rob_ 1d ago
When I was 13 I absolutely hated the wwf and thought it was the worst thing ever and now I appreciate how hard those guys have to push their bodies for entertainment
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u/gm5891 1d ago
So you would know moves to get those cops off of your friend
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u/Fun-Result-6343 1d ago
Yeah, but why would you? These young lads have done nothing but fuck themselves up unnecessarily.
I hope they at least had a good summer. /s
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u/RuleExternal1546 1d ago
then uve lived a sheltered life
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u/dgod40 1d ago
Stand aside everyone...we got a tough one here.
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u/free-canadian 1d ago
Just pay the fare, kids
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u/Puzzled-Opening658 1d ago
When I was a kid I had to pay to ride. Why do kids get to ride for free up to age 12 now? They probably have trouble adjusting to the concept that transit isn’t free
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u/wondering-jpeg 6h ago
Kids ride for free because it helps working parents afford groceries and rent. Just because you didn't have it as a kid doesn't mean it's not a good public investment. The more people on public transit means there's less people in cars creating more traffic. Programs that incentivize young ppl to take transit helps them grow up into adults that take transit.
Tldr: It's a win win to give kids free rides.
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u/Doctor_Amazo 1d ago
If there were tolls on highways, drivers would drive through gates.
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u/free-canadian 1d ago
You know for a fact this won’t happen. There might be political opposition but no one is ruining their car for this in Canada. Stop lying and pay the fucking fare.
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u/Doctor_Amazo 1d ago
Toronto put up speed cameras and drivers felt justified destroying them.
If there is one thing we can all rely on its the violent entitlement of drivers.
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u/Facts_pls 1d ago
We do have tolls on some highways like 407. Vast majority pay for it
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u/dgod40 1d ago
Same way vast majority pay fares on the TTC
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u/free-canadian 1d ago
Except you’re not getting your shoes impounded when you don’t pay the TTC fare.
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u/Puzzled-Opening658 1d ago
It takes a special level of arrogance for teens who are too young to drive to think they can a) ride transit without paying and b) assault cops FFS
Can someone put the fear of god into these inmates in training?
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u/Unfair-Pause-3271 11h ago
Until the YCJA is reformed or abolished this problem won’t go away. Any criminally inclined person <18 yrs old knows for a fact that they’re essentially above the law for all intents and purposes
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u/hellzscream 11h ago
It has become much more common for riders not to pay especially middle school and high school kids 12years+. It's never been easier not to pay as riders just pile into the back and I believe drivers were told not to intervene with non-payers anymore.
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u/GPT3-5_AI 5h ago
It takes a special level of capitalist to think that children should pay to use public transport.
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u/Commercial_Pain2290 Seaton Village 5h ago
How's is it capitalism - it is government owned. The opposite of capitalism. But sure - you don't want to pay for transit therefore you are justified to assault police.
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u/MonkeyAlpha Queen's Quay Harbourfront 1d ago
Wasn’t there a video someone posted on the ttc sub that got deleted?
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u/DrSimonLocke 23h ago
Yep. Whole bunch of youths swarming the officials there. Then more cops showed up and they were having none of it, then the arrests followed.
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u/OkLion5180 1d ago
This was in relation to the video that was posted everywhere btw
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u/britishbassplayer 1d ago
Got a link? I can’t seem to find it
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u/DrSimonLocke 1d ago edited 23h ago
I think it was on the TTC subreddit. The youths were all of colour, and eventually more police arrived and subdued/arrested all of them. One tried to sneak away down the stairs and a cop was having none of it from him!
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u/Both-Trainer-4573 3h ago
‘The youths were all of colour’. I think you need to add
more here so we understand the point you are trying to make by adding this descriptor.You don’t want people to infer or misconstrue your intent.
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u/fadedXyouth 1d ago
Charge the parents. Their lack of parenting shouldn't be at the cost of the public imo.
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u/IanT86 19h ago
They have started doing this in the UK, or cut their benefits
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u/IvoryTowerResident 10h ago
cutting the benefit is a great one
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u/IanT86 6h ago
I agree, especially in the UK where it is insane how much people get. The counter argument is that it does promote more criminality long term as the kids and their families basically end up worse off. But I'd argue (coming from the North of England where benefit use is prolific) a lot of these families care more about their shiny objects than the government realise and it would be a firm kick up the arse to them if they saw things being taken away
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u/ChanceImmediate4976 1d ago
A lot of the police officers' parents are probably retired or even deceased. Not sure what charging them would accomplish.
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u/Maleficent_Wafer996 22h ago
I’m sure you’re not very funny at parties. I know you don’t get invited to them anyways
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u/far_flung_itsnotme 21h ago
If the cop's parents are cops then charging them would get them suspended with full pay indefinitely, until they were retired early on a full pension. Police are as corrupt as Dougie.
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u/FlamingoSeparate8213 13h ago
This is why we need to stop having kids
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u/hellzscream 11h ago
What? We need parents/teachers to do a better job at teaching kids basic values. Kids are required for a functioning society
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u/GAMING_SERVER_ADMIN 3h ago
Teachers are not at all the ones at fault here in fact, kids gotten so bad become so hard on teacher and these insane class sizes, etc and rules and omg you look the wrong way at a student now...
This is 100% on parents.
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u/Jakevader2 8h ago
Were you like this as a kid?
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u/FlamingoSeparate8213 7h ago
No but it seems like the youth these days are getting out of hand
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u/GAMING_SERVER_ADMIN 3h ago
Well have some kids and show them right from wrong. Maybe we can pass it on to other parents.
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u/FlamingoSeparate8213 3h ago
Then why didn’t they just do it for these kids?
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u/GAMING_SERVER_ADMIN 3h ago
You will learn fast that the high childbirth population wise tends to be from poverty stricken families. While they might be good or bad parents many times they lack education, money, support, etc.
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u/AbsoluteSpaz12 11h ago edited 10h ago
I'm raising my kids not to be pieces of shit but go off Adult Virgin.
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u/FlamingoSeparate8213 7h ago
Pretty sure u could do that and they’d still end up becoming pieces of shit
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u/ManyNicePlates 6h ago
Jail community service and fines for the slacker parents and public shaming would be my goto
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u/itchygoopark 4h ago
Society in general and basic civility is in a slow but steady decline to oblivion.
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u/Shadowmant 1d ago
I’m skeptical of how real an “assault” this was. Did they actually attack them or just lightly grab them while begging them to let go of their friend?
Police have been known to make initial charges a bit overblown to incentivize plea deals and this article doesn’t make any mention of injuries to the officers.
It’s certainly not written in a way I would expect it to be if some gang beat the shit out of multiple officers.
Have they released any bodycam footage to show what happened?
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u/Facts_pls 1d ago
I mean, you don't need to stab the officer to count as assault. I'm sure the video will surface in the trial but good chance they'll be let out for free.
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u/Shadowmant 1d ago
Agreed. But taking this article at face value, with no additional information, not a single officer needing to be checked out for so much as a minor injury makes one wonder if it’s as serious as the title makes it out to be.
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u/DrSimonLocke 23h ago
There's a video taken by a spectator that was going around before. The dumb kids had it coming.
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u/Shadowmant 23h ago
Maybe. Haven't seen it. That's why I mentioned it would be nice to see a video.
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u/Both-Trainer-4573 3h ago edited 3h ago
Fare avoidance is not acceptable, however cops routinely charge ppl with ‘assault’ for the most inconsequential even accidental contact. The bar for ‘assault’ when it comes to cops is extremely low and completely up to the discretion of the Officer, not some objective criteria.
I am sure if you tried to claim assault for what happened to these cops, TPS would tell
you to file a report and you would never hear from them again.
They need to focus on the fare evasion, that’s the real issue, not their hurt feelings because they need to actually work
for their pay.
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u/BandicootAgreeable38 1d ago
Police officers assault people all the time.
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u/gm5891 1d ago edited 1d ago
Cops grabbed a kid for doing something stupid but a major crime and their friends tried to help the kid. Hopefully it doesn't end up running their lives. Can't trust a cop to even be understanding with a kid.
Edit: Kids shouldn't be manhandled for fare evasion! No one should! If you think this is justified, you have no empathy for children!
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u/tobaknowsss 1d ago
I've seen enough high-school kids on the TTC causing too many problems and generally making it miserable for other passengers that my sympathy for them is all worn out.
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u/Facts_pls 1d ago
So... What should the cop do? Let them go without paying?
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u/gm5891 1d ago
Yes, who cares! Not worth beating someone up
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u/AyeLykeTyrtles 1d ago
Nobody got beat up here. They arrested someone for assaulting the fare officer, then others assaulted the officers arresting the first “kid”.
People in here doing mental gymnastics to turn this into a fare issue. The real issue is these punks assaulted officers and resisted the arrest for it.
Get outta here with spinning the “kids” as poor victims.
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u/Both-Trainer-4573 2h ago edited 2h ago
If we had a Police force that operated with integrity. It would be easy to take their claim of ‘assault’ seriously.
Remember the last time they colluded to try and send a an innocent man to jail for attempted murder because a Police Officer jumped in front of his vehicle and got hit?
Let’s not pretend that this claim
Of “assault’ is ‘assault’ by any objective standard.If you try to get away from an Officer and accidentally step on his steel toed boot, he can choose to claim ‘assault’ if he is annoyed that you are making him work to arrest you.
Now compare that to the countless videos we have seen of officers brutalizing citizens and no charge of assault is laid.
If they applied that
Same standard to this situation not one of those kids engaged
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u/Colester415 1d ago
Most kids don't try breaking laws in plain view of the police and then proceed to assault the police when confronted. This is beyond stupid by the kids.
Not sure what outcome you want to happen, if the behaviour isn't corrected now they will just keep doing more stupid things.
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u/gm5891 1d ago
Not grabbed, handcuffed or charged
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u/RoxasInABoxas 1d ago
So the police should do nothing and then people will complain that the police do nothing lol
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u/tobaknowsss 1d ago
So essentially you want them to just get away with their behaviour on the grounds that they're young and don't know better? Even though we all know that's just not the case.
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u/gm5891 1d ago
Their brains aren't fully developed... Do you believe in corporal punishment?
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u/Radiant_Sherbert7272 1d ago
Or here's an idea. Don't break the law and don't attack police officers.
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u/theirishembassy 1d ago edited 23h ago
“boys will be boys”
tell me, at what age do you think people should grow out of being allowed to break shit and assault others?
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u/Glizzyinmypocket 1d ago
What do you suggest police do? Give them a lollipop and ask them to please not do it again?
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u/gm5891 1d ago
I know it's a lot to ask the police not to react with violence. They should be able to talk to the kids. It used to be called "community policing"
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u/Link15x 1d ago
So if the kids decide to start running away or, in this case, assaulting them, the police should just talk to them?
You do realize it's mainly youths commuting violent shootings and home invasions. Should we just talk to them too?
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u/Timber2BohoBabe 1d ago
I think you are out of touch with what kids are like these days. I can assure you that if they felt comfortable putting their hands on a police officer, they wouldn't be the kind to chat, even after de-escalation.
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u/Facts_pls 1d ago
Grabbing someone trying to get into station without paying is not violence. You are imagining Jedi police with force that can stop people without touching them.
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u/Link15x 1d ago
How do you think police handcuff someone without grabbing them? Do you think everyone just complies and puts their hands behind their back?
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u/Feisty_Working7643 1d ago
He thinks everyone is a perfect beautiful human, no grasp of reality in this world.
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u/AbsoluteSpaz12 10h ago
The cop was assaulted which lead to the arrest, you don't get to assault police officers. Sorry this is difficult to understand.
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u/Both-Trainer-4573 2h ago
I think that ‘handoffate88’ is saying only Police officers over the age of 13 should be allowed to assault people and 12 year olds that are not Police Officers are not allowed to assault people.
I suspect ‘handoffate88’ is on the way to being promoted to 1st class constantly on the TPS with such logic.
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u/ConversationHead6969 1d ago
Thought cops had guns?
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u/DrSimonLocke 23h ago
Usually they don't shoot kids avoiding paying subway fare.
Usually. Some might get a taze or two, maybe a police tackle and some cuffs like in the video of the incident that was going around.
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u/Both-Trainer-4573 1h ago
But you know that if they wanted to, they could have shot the kids and claim self defense. Like you made clear in your prior post, they looked like gang members, simply because they are not Caucasians.
If you are not working for TPS, you certainly think like a member of TPS.
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u/Impossible-Owl8234 1d ago
Less then 20$
Now we as society are going to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions of dollars, on police, communications, incarceration, Lawyers, the courts and Judges.
These youths are going to be traumatized for the rest of their existence. Their Families as well.
Over less than 20$.
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u/DrSimonLocke 21h ago
Let's flip that: is it worth getting a criminal record and assaulting a police officer over less than $20? And over something one of your stupid friends did?
Smart people can figure that one out, because that video was all sorts of stupid from those kids.
It's a dumb charge to get if you could have just not assaulted a cop or gotten involved. If your friend is getting pinched by the fuzz for not dripping his dime in the collector's booth, don't try to swarm the officers like a fool and prevent his arrest. Now you're going down with the 5-0 for his stupid actions, you jive?
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u/Both-Trainer-4573 1h ago
Yet police officers engage in real assault and are still employed.
Which is a greater danger to society? Fare evasion or brutalizing citizens, providing hitmen with people’s addresses, colluding to imprison an innocent man?
Funny how this level of accountability is missing from you when cops engage in actual Criminal behaviour?
But non Caucasians engaging in fare evasion is the real criminal activity we need to focus on.
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u/Facts_pls 1d ago
When everyone thinks like a leech, it's not 20 dollars anymore. Suddenly it's hundreds of millions of dollars.
Also, are you saying it's okay to steal if the amount is low? Interesting moral compass.
If everyone stole 20 dollars from you, how long before you go broke...
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u/Ok_Waltz3962 1d ago
You're right. Case in point https://www.socialplanningtoronto.org/2026_police_budget
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u/Comrade_agent 1d ago
Their Families as well.
......not much parenting going on here given such a poor display of judgement and consideration for consequences anyway. Should be traumatized about their demon spawn if anything
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u/AyeLykeTyrtles 1d ago
It does not cost millions of dollars to prosecute this. What an absurd take here.
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u/meta_adaptation 1d ago
It’s a good point it’s a waste of resources but you lost me at the kids are the victim here and are traumatized? How about youths, or anyone for that matter refrain from putting their hands on cops, or just any person in general. Hands and feet to yourself is what we teach children, these children apparently missed that memo. FAFO.
But yeah I agree, $20 of fares for all of those services is a total waste and this wasn’t worth it for the cops to get involved clearly. Hope there is body cam video to help explain what happened / if the cops overreacted
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u/lilfunky1 <3 Shawn Desman <3 1d ago
jeebus.