r/unt • u/No_Jellyfish6515 • 4d ago
Do not engage
In front of curry hall rn, they're farming engagement off students it's not worth talking to them genuinely
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u/Mickeybeasttt 4d ago
Not worth anyone’s time. Let them rot for engagement in their dumb little tent.
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u/aais4quiters 4d ago
Blast Disney soundtrack as you pass. They can’t post due to the licensed music being played.
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u/Spacialss 4d ago
I genuinely sang Cavetown out loud. Hopefully they get their shit copyrighted by me >:)
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u/vicksxnvisuals 4d ago
That method is patched
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u/vicksxnvisuals 3d ago
Jesus Christ is still God tho. Real Christian’s reflect the true love of Christ. Any “Christian” that doesn’t reflect Christ doesn’t have him at all.
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u/ButtBurgerDeluxe 3d ago
I sat there to listen to what was going on they’re genuinely so ass at debating all they did was yell over the students talking to them 😭
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u/Desperate-Parking-60 4d ago
The loudest outdoor speakers you can find. Camp next to them, point speakers in their direction, blast until they leave. Problem solved. These are fucking nazis. No sense in arguing with them.
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u/70snostalgia 3d ago
Not sure if they’re Nazis. Probably just conservatives.
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u/Desperate-Parking-60 3d ago
Hard to tell the difference these days. Conservatives are now in bed with fascists, authoritarians, Islamophobes, racists, and white nationalists. I'm myself a Christian but some of these southern evangelical "christians" are so far removed from Jesus' teachings it's scary. If your brand of conservatism attracts all those hate groups, maybe you should take a hard look at the views you're espousing and figure out why they are so appealing to those groups.
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u/Massive-Zombie-7845 3d ago
conservatives for sure, nazis are exaggerations
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u/Luka7Porzinwitzki 3d ago
Hard to tell the difference sometimes 🤷🏼♂️
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u/Massive-Zombie-7845 3d ago
would you also say the same about the left? “liberals are communists, sometimes.” reverse the roles and see if you still agree with this logic
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u/swagatronSigma 3d ago
i’m a communist
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u/Massive-Zombie-7845 3d ago
proud to a communist, huh? if the right proudly chants that they’re a “fascist”, you’d throw a fit
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u/AdJust5244 3d ago edited 3d ago
Under communism you can still have freedom and justice for all; under fascism you get the iron fist. Not sure how you can ever compare the two since they aren't even the same type of ideology.
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u/Massive-Zombie-7845 3d ago
please do some serious research before making your argument, supporting extremism is never going to end up in anyone’s favor
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u/PauseProper3356 3d ago
OK, I dare you to go to North Korea and say that Kim Jong-un is a terrible, terrible person… my point is you don’t have freedom there, plus you don’t even have a real option to vote. You have to vote, and you’re only option is Kim Jong-un
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u/jovianBlue 2d ago
North Korea is a TOTALITARIAN DICTATORSHIP. Totalitarianism recognizes NO LIMIT on state power. I may not know much about communism but I know totalitarianism is NOT a fundamental necessity of it and the defining characteristics of North Korea's government sure isn't it's "communism".
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u/Massive-Zombie-7845 3d ago
wow, you’re actually brainwashed. yes, you may be right that the core foundation or intended goal of communism is to achieve equality, but it has never really worked out in practice; same with socialism (not to be confused with Nordic model’s social democracy). plus, communism has killed more people, indiscriminately (by starving them and gulags), than fascism ever have. you’re falling into the same trap and no different as those on the extreme right that actually support fascism
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u/AdJust5244 3d ago
Name the country that actually had true communism. You can't blame all the deaths on "communism" when no country has ever properly employed it. Furthermore, I never labeled myself as a communist, I just argued with your comparison of communism and fascism because you seem to think they're two sides of the same coin.
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u/jovianBlue 2d ago
1) The Kurds.
2) In fact, these talking points sound exactly like regurgitated YouTube incel garbage so if anyone is brainwashed, it's you.
3) Amazing (hypocritical) that MAGA thinks a gun can't kill someone yet a communism can, and even more perplexing.. that capitalism is somehow not responsible for any problems. God's perfect system. 👼😂🙄
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u/WingOverWater 3d ago
Communism, a bastion of freedom!
Look, they even support the revolution!
Communism could never tolerate fascism!
Communism respects boundaries!
Some of the most advanced nations!
Communism would never be hypocritical!
Communism gives a second chance!
You are blind to history by willful ignorance. Communism is fascism.
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u/AdJust5244 3d ago
As if capitalism isn't equally abhorrent. Capitalism is fascism.
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u/wallyhud 3d ago
You haven't met anyone who had survived living under a communist regime. Go meet some real people who have escaped Cuba, North Korea, or Venezuela and ask them what it was like.
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u/JiMBOJiMMM69 3d ago
What makes them Nazis? They seem like a Christian group? What am I missing?
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u/bluediamondsm 4d ago
Their flyers were disgusting too I swear they moved from the library to by the art building I saw them outside the library earlier and then see them over there as I walked back to my apartment 😭 always avoid them tho don’t have time for nonsense
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u/theaceonthemound 4d ago
what flyers
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u/bluediamondsm 4d ago
I didn’t take a picture but when I walked past them it seemed to be some Islamophobic and transphobic stuff on two of them
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u/Successful_Pizza8268 4d ago
I like to piss em off not by arguing but by toddlering it by just asking "why" to everything they say
Edit: I used to do that, mb for bad phrasing
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u/pogybait24 3d ago
It’s a discussion on differences not arguing. You choose to be a toddler because you can’t articulate why men can be women and why murdering an unborn human being is health care.
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u/Successful_Pizza8268 3d ago edited 3d ago
I mean, I don't think I'm being a toddler. They're chosing to intentionally come to a campus which often has large groups of people who support abortion, and they like to provoke passerby people. I know because they tried roping me into it. I can understand the idea fo abortion and how it works, and I am pro abortion myself.
Saying "You choose to be a toddler because you can't articulate why men can be women and why murdering unborn human being is healthcare" is confusing. I can't tell if you support or don't support it. Instead of jumping the gun and throwing insults, articulate your words.
Wanted to edit this to say, I'm not being a toddler I'm just doing something toddlers do when curious, being asking "why" to everything. I don't think I'm being a toddler in the literal sense. I'm meaning just the questioning.
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u/Desperate-Parking-60 3d ago
These groups should not be allowed to come to university campuses for this bullshit. If university students want to argue with each other or their professors, fine. But I always found outside people (grown adults, not students) going to college campuses to argue with teenagers super weird. Like, this is your job???
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u/pogybait24 2d ago
University students are adults, adults that can vote. They don’t have to argue with anyone, they can simply go about their day.
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u/Massive-Zombie-7845 3d ago
I’m sorry but I’m going to politely disagree with you. They won’t force you to debate with them and if you feel uncomfortable or don’t want it, you can simply ignore them. However, you’re not helping the situation either by being intolerant of opposing views to yours.
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u/hotmustarddoritos 2d ago
Why can’t we all just get along, they all suck! You like what you like, I like what I like. I hope you’re happy you hope I’m happy. Easy as pie!🥧 😀
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u/Massive-Zombie-7845 2d ago
Exactly! The modern left and the modern right are two sides of the same coin but they won’t acknowledge it
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u/Desperate-Parking-60 2d ago
LOL! My favorite "I'm conservative/republican but don't support Trump". Sure, buddy. You voted for him 3 times. I guess when you're trying to debate people it makes it very easy for people to attack your views when everything your "daddy" does is indefensible. And while I'm on that point, what self-respecting adult calls some random grown man "daddy"? Such a strange cult of billionaire worshippers.
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u/Massive-Zombie-7845 2d ago
Who even calls Trump daddy? That’s very weird and plus, I didn’t vote for Trump
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u/Rookva 1d ago
I know people have very little reasoning skills mostly just because all their political knowledge comes from the mainstream media and freaks on social media but you can be a supporter of x political ideology but not vote for the person that that party decides to put front and center as their candidate.
Hell I think if you've voted in any election since 2016 that you have impossibly awful views on politics and you should have never got involved with them since you are unable to see people for who they are and rather what they're supposed to represent. Not a single good candidate has cropped up in recent years because everything is predicated on people picking a political side.
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u/sharcophagus 4d ago
Any musicians want to have a jam sesh next time they're out there? I just started learning how to play the tin whistle, would be fun to practice with some pals
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u/WingOverWater 3d ago
Who needs freedom of speech, am I right guys? Let's just drown out people we disagree with.
Note that I do not agree with Reawaken and I find their views ridiculous.
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u/sharcophagus 3d ago
The 1st amendment protects speech from censorship by the government, not private citizens
I'm exercising my own freedom of expression
I'm not drowning out shit, they have speakers you can hear all the way down the street. I'm just being annoying for sport, which isn't illegal yet
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u/ilikeme1 4d ago
Someone go stand nearby with a loud Bluetooth speaker and blast copyrighted music.
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u/Emporerx 4d ago edited 3d ago
Communists, Nazis, Jesus freaks, and pro-birthers, (sigh)
can someone just set up a table and just ask people how they (passing students) are doing just in general?
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u/HawkOk8434 3d ago
What’s wrong with loving Jesus
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u/FalloutOW Alumni 2d ago
Nothing wrong with it, it's the zealous, hellfire and brimstone sign holders that are the problem.
I'm about as much of an atheist as you can be, and I don't have a problem with most religious folks. They have different views of our existence, but are mostly like me, moving forward in a universe that is awesome and seemingly random.
The folks I do take issue with are those who want to turn my country into some theocratic autocracy. Spitting on the very ideas my country was founded upon, not to mention the first amendment.
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u/HawkOk8434 3d ago
Nazis are Christian’s, pro life, anti animal abuse, anti child brothels, anti child 🌽, anti Zionist oligarchy, anti rapists since Jews are massive rapists
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u/UrBoySkinny_Penis 2d ago
Weird. I always hear the keft saying they are the behilders of facts, but they can't have a simple conversation? Sounds like they have no ground to stand on.
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u/AdJust5244 3d ago
wow looking at this article ive never seen so many scraggly white women in one place.
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u/Healthy_Patience7332 2d ago
Left and right are both wrong. Both destroying what little dignity any of us have. No ome should defend either side.
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u/Massive-Zombie-7845 2d ago
Finally found someone with common sense! There are literally comments in here supporting literal communism and also comments making up conspiracy theories about Jews. Both the left and right have lost their minds. You can’t reason with any of these people.
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u/Healthy_Patience7332 2d ago
Sadly no. Reasoning has left the building
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u/sillygoose1133 2d ago
You’re agreeing with a bot btw
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u/Rookva 1d ago
Crazy how someone can make a centrist statement that correctly points out both sides contain scum and morons like you call them bots.
You want an example of the type of person they're talking about? Look in a mirror.
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u/sillygoose1133 2d ago
What exactly has the left done to destroy our nations dignity
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u/RedBlue5665 2d ago
Los Angeles, California.
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u/sillygoose1133 2d ago
What about Los Angeles lol, it’s a great city with a great economy.
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u/RedBlue5665 2d ago
Skid row, housing permitting, housing prices, LAPD, water shortages, etc.
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u/sillygoose1133 2d ago
Homelessness, rising housing costs, and police incompetence and corruption are found in literally every US city. If you want to talk about water shortages look at Corpus Christi.
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u/outerspacemannn 4d ago
What is this person talking about?
(alum who now lives in fort worth and can’t see in person)
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u/AdJust5244 3d ago
This group has been coming to campus multiple times a week and talking shit about Islam, abortion, and immigrants. In short, they're Christian nationalist scum.
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u/WingOverWater 3d ago
Islam is the religion that idolizes a guy who banged a nine-year-old. I don't like the Reawaken guys either but even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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u/ObWzEN 2d ago
Ok go tell them why they’re wrong and show their viewers how wrong they are
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u/AdJust5244 2d ago
There's no saving grown ass men who think the way they do. There's two outcomes to engaging with them. One, you "show them how wrong they are" and then they edit your part out and they never show their viewer base. Or, you lose against them and get clipped so they spread their hateful rhetoric.
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u/Desperate-Parking-60 3d ago
At the end of the day, they want us to fight right vs left when the real issue is up vs down. The billionaires are the ones spending all the money supporting MAGA to keep the right vs left fight going because it distracts us while they're robbing us blind. You think they give two shits about any of the culture war bullshit? It's an easy way for them to divert people's anger away from them and the rubes just eat it up. These billionaires own all conservative media, have admitted to running bot farms in Eastern Europe, and are grabbing more and more of our resources. We're losing the war against them and still have a bunch of morons joining their camp.
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u/Guy_Fleegmann 2d ago
You are very wrong
Here are the political affiliations of America’s 50 richest families, ranked according to wealth:
Walton – Republican
Koch – Republican
Mars – Republican
Cargill-MacMillan – Republican
Johnson (Fidelity) – Republican
Hearst – Republican
Cox – Democrat
Pritzker – Both
Johnson (S.C. Johnson) – Republican
Duncan – Republican
Newhouse – Democrat
Lauder – Both
Du Pont – Republican
Hunt – Republican
Ziff – Both
Johnson (Franklin Templeton) – Republican
Busch – Both
Dorrance – Both
Mellon – Republican
Brown – Both
Carlson – Both
Fisher – Republican
Butt – Democrat
Rockefeller – Both
Gallo – Democrat
Marshall – Republican
Bass – Both
Meijer – Republican
Bechtel – Republican
Reyes – Republican
Simplot – Republican
Rales – Both
Rollins – Republican
Scripps – Republican
Crown – Both
Stryker – Democrat
Smith – Republican
Pigott – Republican
Shoen – Both
Simon – Democrat
Lefrak – Both
Hughes – Republican
Phipps – Republican
Kluge – Both
Tisch – Democrat
Johnson (Johnson & Johnson) – Republican
Marriott – Republican
Kohler – Republican
Perot – Both
Barbey – Republican
Source - Forbes
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u/Able_Television_9412 2d ago
Israelis are the highest per capita billionaires by a super wide wide margin.
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u/Desperate-Parking-60 3d ago
They're not out there controlling the media, local stations, 24-hour news media, social media (Facebook, Twitter, TikTok, etc). That is all right wing billionaires.
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u/Desperate-Parking-60 3d ago
Dude, even CNN is owned by conservatives. Open your eyes.
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u/Massive-Zombie-7845 2d ago
You think every major media is owned by conservatives, except the radical socialist media. In fact, I bet you think those are “centrist” to you.
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u/Massive-Zombie-7845 2d ago
You must have gone so far left if you think MS NOW, CNN, and The New York Times are “right-wing/conservative”
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u/Massive-Zombie-7845 3d ago
Most mainstream media (MSM) have a liberal leaning
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u/Desperate-Parking-60 3d ago
LOL! Conservatives own most social media, about 90% of talk radio is conservative and Sinclair and Nexstar own a huge chunk of local TV stations. It's 24/7 brainwashing and they still talk about left leaning MSM. Open your eyes.
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u/Massive-Zombie-7845 2d ago
It’s only “brainwashing” when it doesn’t align with your views
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u/Desperate-Parking-60 2d ago
Dude, I was a republican for many years and the party just became insane. It is no longer conservative. It is far far white nationalist right. I looked around the room and realized I have nothing in common with these people. The whole campaign is driven by hate and fear mongering. They don't even campaign on what they can do to improve people's lives anymore. Just culture war bullshit to rile up the masses.
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u/groundroulet 2d ago
Bot
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u/Massive-Zombie-7845 2d ago
Instead of trying to refute my points, you decided to call me a “bot”? Great, looks found I another person not worth engaging with 🙄
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u/PipelineSurprise84 2d ago
They literally own the media you moron. Literally.
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u/Massive-Zombie-7845 3d ago
Fox News is conservative media and MS NOW is liberal media; they’re both owned by billionaires.
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u/OkZombie9406 3d ago
Doesn't the left do paid protesters. The ones that cause trouble.
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u/Objective_Animator52 1d ago
The DNC is pro-Israel dawg, they aren't funding leftist protestors. Maybe they could've funded the liberal "no kings" protests, but no way in hell are they giving money to actual leftists. None of my friends who protested have gotten a paycheck yet.
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u/Desperate-Parking-60 3d ago
There's never been any proof of that. But there has been proof of people getting paid to fill Trump rallies and now Trump himself offering people money to vote for them in the midterms.
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u/Massive-Zombie-7845 3d ago
So is this left not to blame at all? You’re only blaming it on MAGA. There’s plenty of left-wing billionaires that cause just as much trouble as the right-wing billionaires.
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u/Objective_Animator52 1d ago
There aren't really "Left-wing billionares" dawg. Both the democrats and republicans are run by liberal billionares. The liberals and conservatives are to blame, not leftists.
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u/SmolderingScorpio69 1d ago
Most of the wealth in America is held by Democrats.
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u/Desperate-Parking-60 1d ago
Elon Musk, the Waltons, the Koch, and Jeff Bezos hold most of that wealth. Are they democrats now?
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u/porcupineforlyfe 1d ago
Historically, yes. 8 of the 10 richest districts in the US are deep blue. Biggest media companies, apple, the Soros family, Bloomberg, Hoffman, Hastings, Schmidt family, Bill and ex wife Melinda Gates. Harris had 83 billionaires with a net worth of 11 TRILLION dollars backing her, Trump had 31 with a net worth of 5.2 trillion.
We don't like to acknowledge it, but yes. We have more billionaires than Republicans. After this last election that number is going to fall pretty dramatically, as the new breed of progressives that are becoming a cancer to the party are going after them as the world's greatest evil.
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u/Captain_Coffee_III 1d ago
Going by the Forbes top 400 list and just focusing on the top 25 -
https://www.forbes.com/forbes-400/Total wealth by the top 25, $4.2T. Using the median net wealth of household in the USA ($216k), that is the combined net wealth of 19.6M households. Just for scale..
Since not all everyone declares a party affiliation, based on their causes and donations, I classified them as "center", "left", or "right".
Given those, the top 25 richest fall in: Left 7, Center 6, Right 12
Forbes also attached a philanthropy score 1..5, the average for each group: Left 3.1, Center 1.3, Right 1.6.Given this chunk of wealth, yeah, the right hold a the largest chunk and give away 2x more (of whatever Forbes scaled it on).
But if you reframe it to "Right" and "Not Right", the number of people are about even but the philanthropy scores are wildly different in favor of "Not Right".
What's interesting is that even in the Forbes top 400, these 25 represent half of the total wealth. The remaining 375 is $3.8T.
The top 400 people in the USA have the same combined net worth as 39M households.
But when looking up the "Center", the men all had a common theme. They didn't want to be political but tended to advocate for reduction on trades rules, taxes, environmental restrictions, safety, oversight, etc., which is very much in line with everybody on the right. The centrist women didn't care about business and their causes were about people.
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u/ComfortableYard6761 1d ago
Yes let’s refrain from opening a dialogue & instead just scream & rage & be violent. The tolerant left!
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u/8No_Offense_But8 1d ago
Why not hear a supposed opposed opinion? How can anyone claim a solid stance for one side of a debate without actually considering the other side?
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u/HellurHowYerDerin 3d ago
Why do y’all want everyone to think the same? It’s very communist of you.
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u/Lorelei321 4d ago
I keep seeing responses saying to drown them out - loud music, loudspeakers, whatever. Don’t. Just walk past and ignore them. Shutting down freedom of speech leads to a bad place.
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u/Texoraptor 4d ago
... when the government does it
We can insult them
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u/Lorelei321 3d ago
Do as you like, but when it gets turned back on you some day, and your freedom of speech is actively silenced, remember this, that you advocated for it.
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u/Texoraptor 2d ago
you're shutting down my freedom of speech by shutting down my ability to insult people
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u/so_sic_of_it 4d ago
Differing opinions?
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u/starglo1969 3d ago
Differing opinions about art, etc. Not about people’s personal rights.
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u/so_sic_of_it 3d ago
Wait until you learn about this whole first amendment thing. It's really gonna blow your mind.
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u/starglo1969 3d ago
Again, differing “opinions” can be spoken. Who cares. I won’t “debate” someone who has the “opinion” certain people shouldn’t/don’t exist. I never said they shouldn’t speak it. Honestly that helps us to know we can’t trust them.
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u/Massive-Zombie-7845 3d ago
that’s not how conservative ideology works. please do your own research before making the broad assumption that they want to “erase” certain people
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u/starglo1969 3d ago
I have done my own research. And perhaps not all conservatives, but certainly the current administration, definitely want to “erase” transgender people.
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u/Massive-Zombie-7845 3d ago
are you trans, by any chance?
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u/starglo1969 3d ago
Does that matter?
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u/Massive-Zombie-7845 3d ago edited 3d ago
even if it doesn’t matter (though I don’t really care who you are), I suggest you do more research because you’re conflating what you think is happening and what is really happening to trans people. I think you should consider that this administration doesn’t really want to “erase” trans people but instead, disagree with their ideology and consider it dangerous to fundamental American values. to me, disagreeing that trans women should be in the same sports as biological women, that children should receive gender-affirming surgeries (since they are children and can’t consent), and that tone policing gender pronouns without prior knowledge are all common-sense positions that won’t do harm to most non-radical trans people who want to live their lives free of discrimination. I agree that trans people that should receive mental health services just as much as cisgender people, live their lives free from any form of discrimination, and that people should respect their gender pronouns with prior knowledge. however, I do not want their ideology shoved down people’s throats. any sort of radical ideology, whether it comes from the left or the right, should have absolutely no place in American society. it’s harmful, damaging, and deepens the political divide and polarization within our country even further
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u/Visible_Solution_775 4d ago
I saw them setting up on my way back home earlier at around 3:40 pm lol
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u/aipac125 2d ago
Putting Conservative first at UNT. Conservative UNT. There should be an acronym for that.
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u/Connect_Serve2248 4d ago
it's college, go debate and win. put that tution money to work💸
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u/Mickeybeasttt 4d ago
They pay money to be educated by people who are actually qualified, not a bunch of clip farmers who argue in bad faith.
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u/Connect_Serve2248 4d ago
my point exactly. they obtain knowledge from the professors. my point is to USE this knowledge and exercise that muscle in your brain that you're PAYING to exercise. i said debate and win. NOT to listen, take notes, or study.
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u/Mickeybeasttt 4d ago
A debate implies two people seeking to change each others minds in good faith. No clip farmer who goes to college campuses is ever trying to argue in good faith.
They throw out misinformation and argue with logical fallacies so they can cut responses out of context for engagement on social media. Not worth anyone’s time… it’d be better to spend that time studying actual material.
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u/Connect_Serve2248 4d ago
hard to clip someone when they're tearing your arguements apart limb by limb...
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u/Key_Kick1171 4d ago
Pulling in on your alt is not going to get your tent visitors.
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u/Connect_Serve2248 4d ago
this my main dawg
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u/Key_Kick1171 4d ago
Even worse
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u/Connect_Serve2248 3d ago
if you'd like to talk it out, i'd love to. maybe we'll see eye to eye on more than you think.
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u/Danilo-11 4d ago
Nobody pays tuition to go to debate a professional gaslighter
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u/allison_mossie 4d ago
Found the pied piper account
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u/Connect_Serve2248 4d ago
imagine paying to go to a place where you're supposed to learn and debate knowledge, only to neglect these tools you're paying for in exchange for petty reddit karma.
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u/Unique_Violinist4851 Bachelor's 4d ago
that would imply they are there to debate in good faith
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u/Connect_Serve2248 4d ago
just because someone's view differ from yours doesn't make it a "bad faith" arguement. plenty of intellectuals from opposing sides have debated on campuses since the inception of college. there are plenty civil, college debates online if you'd like examples in order to prepare for such interactions in the future. young people left or right need to learn how to debate without trying to chop each others heads off.
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u/manydoorsyes Ecology 4d ago
These people are most certainly not there in good faith. I encountered them last month and listened to a bit. Every time someone pokes a hole in an argument (which is pretty often) they attempt to deflect it.
Genuine debate is healthy but these people aren't doing that. Students would gain more knowledge studying or participating in club activities (many of which involve lectures) instead.
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u/Nice_Vegetable69 4d ago
Yes, the college Freshmen is armed to go debate someone who does it professionally, because they’ve taken intro to Philiosophy.
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u/Connect_Serve2248 4d ago
the youngest signer of our declaration of independence was 26 years old. these kids have access to an abundance of information on a scale never before seen. they should be expected to debate at a proficient level. especially if they're in a college, an institution of higher learning.
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u/allison_mossie 4d ago
This was corny and gay
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u/Connect_Serve2248 4d ago
it's to show how low our standards have plummeted. the youth can no longer read, those who are trying are getting gutted by the system, gen x and boomers laughing while we pay into their retirement funds, and the top don't even think about us. if we had just an inkling of the founding fathers minds, we'd probably be causing a bigger disturbance in the power structure compared to now.
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u/allison_mossie 4d ago
Is it considered necrophilia for you to be bouncing and slobbering all over the founding fathers? Like recommit them to their tombs when you are done bozo
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u/Connect_Serve2248 4d ago
to revere those who created our nation? not necrophilia in the slightest. you'll be obtaining reddit karma forsure though!
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u/allison_mossie 4d ago
Brother the founding fathers did not think you should vote lmao
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u/Connect_Serve2248 4d ago
I would have been able to vote. Many others wouldn't have been able on the other hand.
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u/allison_mossie 4d ago
1) I doubt it. You don’t own land 2) I’m sure you’re very ok with the latter
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u/PauseProper3356 3d ago
You do realize that if you care about this so much, you can contact the university and get a free speech permit and buy a tent and cameras and sound equipment and signs and do this whole thing yourself. Also calling people names and harassing them just because you don’t like what they have to say is not gonna do anything for you… in fact you may get yourself caught up in things that may make employers in the future choose another candidate.. it’s OK to not agree with what somebody has to say but it’s also not OK to harass them and threaten them.
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u/Massive-Employ2091 3d ago edited 2d ago
Do not, I repeat do not try to reason with these people(the left). Anything you say that requires reasoning and thought will be lost on them.
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u/Massive-Zombie-7845 2d ago
On the other hand, conservatives are a lot more tolerant of opposing views from my experience. My brother is a progressive/leftist and when I try to have a productive political conservation when him, it immediately broils down to “Democrats are good and Republican are bad” without any sort of nuance. However, I had friends at work who identify as conservatives or are right-leaning and many do not play purity tests, engage in cancel culture, and label liberals “communist” for simply having a disagreement.
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u/No_Jellyfish6515 3d ago
Where on earth do you see me harassing or threatening anyone or calling them names?? Laughable tbh
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u/Patient-Champion-195 4d ago
"It's not worth talking to them; however, it's worth whining about in a Reddit post"
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u/NicCage4life 4d ago
I'm glad people are realizing this. When I was an undergrad I would try to argue with loud Christians on the corner, but it was pointless. It wasn't like they will swayed either. If they have a camera and they encourage you to argue, YOU are the product.