Don't worry, in no time MJ (or whatever next romantic interest Peter has) will go "Peter, i would love to be with you, but im already with John" and/or die xd
Relax, my grandpa told me they will revive Paul but this time he will anti hero called blue helmet and will have hate bone for spider because plot reasons
It's that beard. And the fact that my only exposure to MJ is through Rami movie, of course I hate her ass. And if Paul brings her happiness, he gotta go.
I only ever interacted with Spiderman through some of the animated shows and the movies, I don't think I ever saw Peter get a happy ending with MJ. There's always some bullshit
Thing about MJ Watson is for some reason, all the major adaptations that people talk about refuse to get her classic characterization right. Heck, besides Nick Spencer, so do the current comic writers.
You want to know why she’s supposed to be a beloved character? Check out the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon. Her brief appearance at the end of Across the Spiderverse is also pretty good.
spidey and mj get stuck in an alternate universe where time is faster, mj falls for guy named paul who looks like this and then they got a few kids together. also he looks like this.
Is that all? I find it hard to believe that he gets this much hate just for doing that. He must be a terrible person personality wise, but since you didn't mention anything like that (I've never read any Spider Man comics), I'll assume that's not the case. I've also never seen MJ get hated on for this, which makes me think it wasn't something she did willingly. So if you could enlighten me on the reason behind it, that would make things easier to understand.
The best way of explaining why spidey fans absolutely Despise Paul is to say that he basically is a physical representation of all of the bullshit and misery the spider-man writers have put Peter through post "One more day". Paul basically served as a big ol' middle finger to the fans and their hopes that Peter and MJ could ever get together again, or actually letting Peter make meanigfull and lasting progress as a person instead of simply being a shambling punching bag they can make suffer.
beyond just Paul, Marvel's sheer unwillingness to make spider man progress is literally rewriting how time work
20 years ago, Peter Parker and eddie brock were students together in the same university, then eddie brock became venom, graduated, became a journalist under JJJ, went to Irak, married, became a father, lost his wife, fought a god (Knull) and then became the god of all symbitoes while his son, Eddie Junior, became the new venom
well a lot of it is just how egregious it all is, but yes i did forget to mention that the comics tried a ton to make him someone who to root for/his character randomly stealing mj out to be a good thing and also he abruptly split up peter and mj after they had another long lasting relationship for once.
I don’t think anyone hates Spider Man as much as his own writer does... I can understand why people hate Paul so much. I felt the same kind of hatred while reading Berserk because something similiar happens to Guts
In summary, after more than a decade of "extreme Peter suffering p*rn", they made seemingly the possibility of he finally going back with MJ... And then nope, she is actually with Paul, a self insert of the author
It's more about what the character represents. The arc he's introduced is terribly written with all the heroes acting out of character just so Peter can go through some soap opera level melodrama with everyone hating him for no reason.
The Fantastic Four turned their backs on him because he stole a macguffin to save MJ because he didn't have time to explain, and somehow this is treated as some unforgivable crime instead of a thing superheroes do all the time. And when he gets desperate for help the only person he can turn to is begging for help from Norman Osborne
For what i heard the reason people hate him is because he is a self insert of the author (idk how accurate is that) like he looks like the author and shit so it was kinda like the author put himself in the story to cuck peter and well, people were no kind to the author nor the story.
But also as people love to hate on things, so the sales of this story were pretty good to comic standar from what i recall.
yeah pretty much. that guy is insane (rent a girlfriend author) i have never seen someone so lost on the sauce, like this guy legit has a whole family and is making up a life with a drawing.
He is also responsible for his dimension's people being genocided. Partially, since it's his father's idea, but it is his reaction of basically showing ZERO remorse/accountability + MJ comparing his action/past as the same as Peter's responsibility in Uncle Ben's death that makes people, understandably, EXTREMELY PISSED.
All this, after Peter desperately tried to get back to that dimension to rescue MJ, to the point of breaking into F4's building to steal a portal device to save her and FIGHTING THE F4, instead of asking them for help about this, causing the F4 to "dislike" him and the F4 to burn bridges with him.
All this makes it clear to Spider-Man fans that the writers REALLY hate his guts even more than before, so they turn toward Paul as a "catalyst/source" of this whole mess.
On one hand I get the idea that this was meant to hit extra hard because the F4 is like family to him but on the other...honestly the whole thing seems stupid and out of character for everyone involved?
Unfortunately he migrated to the MCU and is likely going to stay around after that universe blows the fuck up, gets stitched together with other universes, and then gets reborn
I remember someone made an edit of Paul's gravestone to say Herman Schultz (The Shocker) instead because his death allowed for Paul's. I wish I had that image.
I just find it pointless to keep on rooting for MJ and Peter to get back together. It’s been over 20 years and Marvel ain’t doing jack shit. Struggling Peter Parker is the status quo and we must not break it. I wouldn’t disagree, his struggles are what makes him relatable and is apart of his character, but it’s stupid just to be stuck in a permanent “will they, won’t they” cycle instead of just moving on and having Peter hook up with Felicia or a new character.
I get why fans are pissed, but I also find the fight for Peter and MJ pointless especially at this time.
There's also plenty more than just Marvel and DC, Image Comics are still going strong and Dynamite has been doing well with all kinds of comics like Supernatural, Ben 10, Disney and many more.
I dunno, I liked stuff like Unbelievable Gwenpool, Immortal Hulk, The Mighty Thor (the one where Gorr showed up), and King Thor. There's some good stuff in there.
There's some other Gwenpool content, like Gwenpool Strikes Back and her time on the West Coast Avengers, but at the end of the day only her original run is considered and unqualified banger.
Dude, Paul literally STOPPED me from reading Spder-Man comics when I first thought about reading them for the first time years ago(grew up with the movies and cartoons)
The only comic I’ve actually read was the original Miles Morales comics I found in the library years before the Spider-Verse movies and technically not read but watched a motion comic adaptation of Leo’s Tailoring (still a personal favourite)
There are a ton of great storylines to read. Off the top of my head there's Kraven's Last Hunt, Superior Spider-Man (which does require you to realize everyone but Spidey is holding an idiot ball) which has actually had some hold in canon last time I heard a few years ago, and Life Story (a bunch of shorter vignettes instead of full issues designed to capture the "feel" of each decade Spider-Man has been in since the 60s). And thats just off the top of my head.
I have a huge comic book collection and zero Spider-Man. I love the character, always have. But I try to find a comic that seems interesting and all I can see in the comic stores and online are just…boring.
Nature is healing, soon he'll just be an uncomfortable footnote that most people don't know about and try to ignore like Arisia from Green Lantern.
To actually answer your question there was a random time skip where Peter was trying to save MJ but she ended up meeting and marrying this guy called Paul and they adopted kids together and it was a whole thing where he was a bit of a dick to Peter and even if he wasn't he randomly showed up right as it looked like they were finally gonna get back together.
Eventually they finally realised that nobody liked Paul and when he and MJ broke up they were bathed in light making it look like it was ordained by God himself.
I hate to be one of those “um actually” jackasses but cucking only occurs if the person getting cucked is currently in a relationship with the one cucking them and Peter and MJ were broke up therefore it doesn’t qualify.
EDIT:Cucking is just cheating but the victim is okay with it.
Dude I hope for all the stars, that marvel just stop trying to make peter and MJ together, it's tiring, peter can crack all the marvel universe, and even if it's strange, it's less tiring than watching him and MJ again and again
The hate is overblown. Spider-man comics weren't doing well. So they latched on and hate whatever is currently being written. Paul was a great guy in a shitty situation.
I read the comics but I'm just impressed someone like him is that hated to the point where a Spider-Man fan who never read the comics had actually prayed for this moment.
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