Musk suggested Trump restrict Ukraine's Starlink service, Telegraph reports

[u/Fluffy_Technology27]

https://kyivindependent.com/musk-asked-trump-to-restrict-ukraines-starlink-service-telegraph-reports/

[u/B-Z_B-S]

Probably didn't take much suggesting. Donald Trump is a Russian asset.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates_and_Russian_officials

[u/Big_Introduction1952 → u/B-Z_B-S]

Makes me sick how easily they make these decisions, knowing it will cost human lives.

[u/PlatyPunch → u/Big_Introduction1952]

It doesn't even register with them at this point. How many times do you think Elon or Donald cut corners on things like safety regulations or health benefits for employees that led to injuries or death. You don't become a billionaire without leaving a trail of bodies in your wake.

[u/hogester79 → u/PlatyPunch]

Right, I did read that because no official war was declared against Iran at one stage the dead American soldiers were not entitled to death benefits.

They don’t even care about their own.

[u/SweeterThanYoohoo → u/hogester79]

We haven't cared about "our own" for a long, long time. At some point between 1945 and today money took precedence over human lives. Jon Stewart famously fought for almost 2 decades to secure health care for 9/11 first responders.

Imagine that, living in the richest most powerful (at the time) country in the world. The country is attacked on a level not seen before in an extremely dramatic way, thousands dead and almost 100,000 first responders exposed to toxic fumes. But we wouldn't take care of them. We left them to deal with the bullshit for profit "healthcare" system. It took a fucking TV host to lobby to congress to pay for cancer treatments caused by the toxic air at Ground Zero.

Shameful

[u/greebly_weeblies → u/SweeterThanYoohoo]

That they knew was toxic at the time, yet suppressed details of.

[u/Wizchine → u/SweeterThanYoohoo]

Look - we tell them, “thank you for your service.” We’re not Communists. /s

[u/Backupusername → u/hogester79]

"Their own"? Trump cares about precisely one person, and that person is Donald Trump. He has preferences outside of that - people who compliment him, people with the same last name as him, people he can get something from, people who keep his secrets. But he'd sell every one of them up the river if he thought he stood to benefit from doing so. He doesn't care about anyone else, he's not capable of it. All that matters to him is his own well-being, his fame, and his legacy. People died? Who cares, people die all the time. He's fine. People died because of him? Awesome, that proves how much power he has. The families of the people who died want compensation? Fuck them, that's his money. They're not getting a cent out of him, and if they try, he'll sue.

Musk, as far as I can tell, is not much different. He simply tied his identity to Technology instead of Business, but he's equally desperate to be compensated and admired for what a great job he does in that field. There is no such thing as another person to these people. Only threats and opportunities.

[u/spw19 → u/Backupusername]

You are 100% correct , it puzzles me how his dumb ass followers don't see this.

[u/leavemeinpieces → u/hogester79]

It makes me sad to think of those families who will never replace their dead. However wrong it was for them to follow the order to go out there.

The least they could do is give them death benefits when you consider the back and forth of stock trades being made and the personal enrichment.

It's not even Trump's own money, would be a drop in the ocean and would retain at least a small amount of goodwill.

But he would never ever understand that, considering how many people he has left unpaid in his sleazy career, if you can really call inheriting shitloads of money and blowing it a career.

[u/RJ815 → u/leavemeinpieces]

My entire life, the government but especially Republicans have been notoriously fucking over veterans when they are no longer of any use in combat. As George Carlin said "live babies and dead soldiers".

[u/NextSteak6376 → u/hogester79]

Military worship is a religious disease which has blinded countless Americans.

[u/xX609s-hartXx → u/hogester79]

Lol, actually declaring war has barely happened again after WWII. With that excuse you could demand back the money for every dead American soldier of the last 80 years.

[u/hogester79 → u/xX609s-hartXx]

That isn’t the point of if it was or wasn’t declared, the issue is using a technicality to say “we are not responsible “ and even more so.. you lost your life? Thoughts and prayers.

[u/Lonely_skeptic → u/PlatyPunch]

They only care about winning the next move in what Trump thinks of as “deals”.

A government is not a business, and human lives are not for bartering or sacrificing.

[u/xX609s-hartXx → u/Lonely_skeptic]

That government/business thing always riles me up. People do business and are constantly (and rightfully) complaining about bad service, no accountability, rising prices and layoffs. But once they calmed down, a whole lot of them say "You know what, our government should also be run in the style of a burning garbage pile!".

[u/OobahaV2 → u/PlatyPunch]

I mean Elon has publically bragged about how he filled cemeteries with his enemies, and a part of me thinks he wasn't joking.

[u/Opi-Fex → u/Big_Introduction1952]

Elon mentioned multiple times that he thinks people are NPCs. He's the main character, this is a game, and either nobody else exists or only a handful of "real" people exist.

Completely unrelated but ketamine has been well documented to cause a feeling of disassociation. People using it feel that nothing is real and they're not even in their own body, but somewhere outside of it.

Completely unrelated.

[u/xX609s-hartXx → u/Opi-Fex]

Don't blame the ketamine, he was always some kind of sociopathic autist who didn't even learn to fake some emotions.

[u/Waterflowstech → u/xX609s-hartXx]

Ive heard enough, give him all the money and power in the world

[u/Dusty-Staccato → u/Opi-Fex]

He also admitted to having ai psychosis at least half a dozen times this year. He's completely detached from reality.

[u/tomdarch → u/Opi-Fex]

The trailer for Musk includes him rambling about “We’re probably in a simulation and I don’t want them to turn this one off because it’s boring.” It’s a bizarre, essentially religious way of thinking, and wildly self-serving of course. But he is too dumb and up his own ass to realize that it’s a pathetic way to justify his own ego.

[u/dragon_idli → u/Big_Introduction1952]

Ofcourse.. which is why india has been postponing starlink services in india citing level playing field and delinked control measures as a requirement.

No country should allow another country to use a service as a squeeze point during wars or to bully them.

[u/MarabouStalk → u/Big_Introduction1952]

USAID cuts are projected to cost ~22 million lives by 2030.

Clearly, the consequences of slowing Starshield didn't even register.

[u/DConstructed → u/B-Z_B-S]

Last year when DOGE was rampaging through the federal government there was this incident

“Within minutes of DOGE personnel creating service/user accounts in NLRB systems – someone or something within Russia appeared to attempt to log in using all of the correct credentials (eg, Usernames/Passwords) on several occasions,” said Whistleblower Aid Chief Legal Counsel Andrew Bakaj.”

https://cybernews.com/security/whistleblower-doge-data-leak-russia-cyberattack-nlrb-labor-board/

EM might be an asset himself.

[u/Nanaman → u/B-Z_B-S]

Also a Russian asshat

[u/Kundrew1 → u/B-Z_B-S]

Trump likely didnt even know it was possible to do it until Musk told him. I agree that Trump didnt need to be convinced once told about it.

[u/coconutpiecrust → u/B-Z_B-S]

Yes, we can just agree that both of them are to blame. It doesn’t matter who was the first to suggest it. They all wanted it. All of them. 

[u/Valdrax → u/B-Z_B-S]

This isn't the first time Musk has tried to prevent Starlink from being used by Ukraine against Russia. Pretty much since the service was first adopted in 2022, SpaceX has blocked it from being used in Russia, claiming sanctions prevent it.

Him and Shotwell have stated several times that they wanted it only for civilian or defensive use, not for offense. Musk has publicly stated on Twitter that he's worried about the conflict escalating to WW3.

The biggest indication of the truth of that, is in October 2022, when he updated the geofencing of Starlink to not allow its use inside Russia controlled areas of Ukraine during an offensive, basically causing a retreat to be necessary. He also complained on Twitter about having to provide service to Ukraine for free, when he got pushback about it, while his company ate the costs and other defense contractors got billions.

Then there was an attempt to use naval drones in August 2023 that SpaceX refused to allow Starlink to be used for, turning down a Ukranian request to do so. Musk claimed that allowing it to be used within Russian borders, without the express approval of the US government would be a violation of sanctions, again citing the potential for WW3.

Starshield was supposed to be the compromise, to give a portion of Starlink over to US military control and wash his hands of the decision making, but I bet he's not exactly crying real tears that it turned into a double edged sword against Ukraine.

I strongly suspect that Musk would rather Ukraine fold over and let Russia win. I don't have a smoking gun on the man himself, but I had a former friend who is a huge Elon Musk fan who started pushing back on the idea that Ukraine has a right to any of the territory it lost around that time, and I suspect his social media feed (Twitter) was influencing him about it.

[u/dafeiviizohyaeraaqua → u/Valdrax]

Musk would rather Ukraine fold over and let Russia win

Yes, he absolutely wants that.

[u/Affectionate-Army676 → u/B-Z_B-S]

I think they're both Russian assets

[u/MDthrowItaway → u/B-Z_B-S]

He is The Useful Idiot

[u/tomdarch → u/B-Z_B-S]

But as insulated as Musk probably thinks he is from normal people, I would never want Ukrainians to blame me for the deaths of their countrymen. He’s going to get shived out if the blue.

[u/calstanfordboye → u/B-Z_B-S]

So is Elon Reeve Musk

[u/Fluffy_Technology27]

Editor's Note: This is a developing story and is being updated.

SpaceX CEO Elon Musk approached U.S. President Donald Trump with the idea of restricting Starlink speeds for Ukrainian forces, the Telegraph reported on Oct. 16, citing four sources familiar with the matter.

The news comes after SpaceX abruptly implemented a speed cap on Ukraine's vital Starshield service on Oct. 14, with no warning to Kyiv in advance. The sudden restriction disrupted multiple battlefield operations, including mid-range drone strikes and air defense.

Conflicting reports about the reason for the cutoff — and who was responsible — have left Ukraine with questions even after Starlink service stabilized on the front lines.

But the Telegraph on Oct. 16 reported that it was Musk who proposed the speed cap to Trump — and Trump "agreed," one source said.

The claim contradicts Musk's own comments on the matter. Following the Oct. 14 disruption, Musk wrote on his social media platform X that any Starlink restrictions applicable to the military were the ultimate decision of the White House.

"Starshield systems are owned and controlled by the U.S. government," he said. "Any limits on speed or usage are decided by the U.S. military and ultimately (the president)."

Musk neglected to mention his own role in the change.

A senior source told the Telegraph that after the chaos and violence that followed the restriction, Musk was concerned about negative consumer reactions in Europe.

"He tweeted out that he was innocent and that it was the U.S. administration that did it," the source reportedly said. "The reality is that they were both in it."

This account was confirmed by two Ukrainian sources and a high-ranking European official, according to the Telegraph.

The impact of the Starlink restriction in Ukraine was immediate, and carried high stakes for both soldiers and civilians. President Volodymyr Zelensky highlighted the deadly consequences in comments to reporters on the sidelines of an EU leaders' summit in Brussels Oct. 16.

"We use Starlink to intercept jet-powered Shaheds that strike our civilians and kill our families," Zelensky said.

"When the speed was reduced, we were unable to intercept some of the jet-powered Shaheds. We were unable to use a tool to protect civilians."

The restrictions also affected deliveries of food and water to troops operating in areas under constant Russian drone surveillance, the president said. Zelensky stressed that Ukrainian forces do not use Starlink for deep strikes inside Russia.

The Starlink incident came amid heightened tensions between Kyiv and the White House, with Trump demanding that Ukraine halt attacks on Russian oil refineries and making a deal with Russian President Vladimir Putin to import diesel from Russia.

The White House threatened to halt intelligence sharing if Ukraine refused to comply — even as Russia continued to pound Ukraine's energy grid night after night and attack civilians with ballistic missiles.

But Trump has also dodged responsibility for the decision to restrict Starlink. In remarks at the White House on Oct. 16, Trump said he did not think either he or Musk was responsible for the slowdown.

The Pentagon has given no public explanation regarding the restriction.

The future of Ukraine's Starlink service also remains murky. Zelensky said on Oct. 16 that Starlink is not yet operating at its former speed, but that speed is in the process of being restored.

A source in Ukraine's Defense Ministry told the Kyiv Independent on Oct. 15 that connectivity had "been restored and remains operational," but military personnel in Ukraine's drone sector have continued to report uneven performance.

[u/Nic727 → u/Fluffy_Technology27]

Don't forget the employees who accept this kind of order. All accountable, from top to bottom!

[u/digsy → u/Nic727]

This is so Black Mirror. I expect that private business have always had a hand in interfering in wars but this is something else. Wars in the future will be decided by Billionaires.

[u/pannenkoek2309 → u/digsy]

Wars in the future will be decided by Billionaires

The future is here. Follow the money and it'll always lead you to a stinky stench of a billionaire hiding in his bunker. Check who's bankrolling the attacks on Iran, or enabling the systematic mass murder of Palestinian children.

[u/Meritania → u/Nic727]

“Just following orders” said the guilt-free conscience.

[u/AleWatcher → u/Nic727]

Of course he did. Trump doesn't know what the capabilities of starlink are, he just wants to punish Ukraine.

[u/Dandan0005 → u/Fluffy_Technology27]

Musk is a war criminal.

[u/DoctorDringuz → u/Dandan0005]

heilon muskovy is a straight up enemy and a threat to democracy around the world

[u/ThunderOblivion → u/DoctorDringuz]

All billionaires are.

[u/manimal28 → u/Dandan0005]

Makes me wonder if there may be state sponsored reprisals , like happened after Munich.

[u/TextImpressive3346 → u/Fluffy_Technology27]

The craziest part is honestly how incompetent they all are. What do you mean they throttled the speed for a few days with no plan on how to explain why they did it, just to restore it again?? I know Trump is committing crimes daily, but this just seems especially pointless and stupid. Russia didn’t even gain anything significant for it, and the damage it does to Elon and the US’ weapons export to Europe is insane. No country is going to buy any of this shit.

[u/Emosaurusrex → u/TextImpressive3346]

Like the line that Musk was afraid it would impact sales if anyone found out it was his idea as well, as if nobody was going to figure out when it's like 1 out of 4 people that could even do this. They're drug addled buffoons, but even this beyond exceptionally stupid by them. There has to be something more to this.

Europe is so frustratingly slow, there should be serious decoupling initiatives on absolutely every aspect on every level, in every country, you legitimately cannot trust ANYTHING out America that has remote control, be it MS office or fighter jets. This is the biggest wake up call even if they're late a few years. Straight up wartime sabotage.

[u/alex61821 → u/Fluffy_Technology27]

It's almost like they lie all the time.

[u/cogit2]

A president vulnerable to suggestion by drug addicts is a danger to their nation. 25th Amendment time.

[u/Psychoanalytix → u/cogit2]

People have been saying 25th amendment for 2 years... it will literally never happen

[u/oldwatchlover → u/Psychoanalytix]

THIS. 25th amendment requires a functioning cabinet putting country before party / personal power. I doubt you could get 1 vote from Trump’s cabinet, THAT IS BY DESIGN.

(I’m so triggered by naive people thinking that is still a thing. One of many guardrails Trump shredded along the way)

[u/ZumboPrime → u/oldwatchlover]

Just a reminder that Trump didn't do all this by himself. The ENTIRE Republican Party are active participants and ALL OF THEM have embraced fascism.

[u/Odd-Lunch-1880 → u/oldwatchlover]

Dude! It’s so frustrating. So many Americans still think a government that’s been working against their best interests for generations is suddenly going to change just because they say so.

[u/retainftw → u/oldwatchlover]

The last cabinet, there was a chance, particularly after Jan 6. Like 5%.

He picked this one so there'd be no way in hell they would ever do that.

[u/Spelunkie → u/Psychoanalytix]

Even when he's drooling and spazzing on international TV, they'll still say how smart and great and big he was

[u/EQandCivfanatic → u/Psychoanalytix]

It might happen next February or March, when Vance is able to get in and theoretically be president for the following 10 years.

[u/FrequentFortune123 → u/EQandCivfanatic]

No, it wouldn’t. If you want to remove a president impeachment is a much lower bar. 

[u/Throwaway-tan → u/cogit2]

25th Amendment is so toothless, it's functionally just a mechanism for the cabinet to request Congress to run an impeachment trial.

• Cabinet votes to remove because President is incapable
• President says no, restores his own power
• Cabinet says nuh-uh, removes Presidents power again, petitions Congress to uphold the removal
• Congress must now vote 2/3 (in both chambers) to approve removal, vote down the removal or abstain and the President gets his power back after 21 days

Impeachment is almost a lower bar to cross because it only requires a simple majority in the House and 2/3 in the Senate.

Since Congress is incapable of removing the President, in spite of his clear illegal conduct, then 25th Amendment is basically useless because it requires even higher threshold from Congress.

[u/Calimariae → u/cogit2]

The president is a drug addict himself.

[u/meldiane81 → u/cogit2]

He is ALSO a drug addict. Its well known he has an addiction to stimulants.

[u/catch22-]

Exactly why we cannot all be reliant on the technology of billionaires. Whether it be internet access or the content being pushed on the apps. Countries need to ban starlink, meta and all foreign social media and have their own locally run ones

[u/ConstantSpace5809 → u/catch22-]

Canada will never use Starlink now. Not a chance.

[u/xX609s-hartXx → u/catch22-]

Nationalise that shit. A mentally deranged nazi like Musk should be nowhere near that power and once we discover the backdoors we should have enough evidence to lock him away for a century.

[u/Seanspeed → u/xX609s-hartXx]

You have Trump and Republicans in charge of government and you want to nationalize social media with them controlling things? How fucking high are you?

Absurdly terrible idea. That's how you turn the country into a new Russia.

It's insane how wildly short sighted all of y'all are.

[u/catscanmeow → u/catch22-]

the EU needs to make their own social media apps with oversight. in the same way they made apple switch to USBC they can get shit done.

[u/Waiting4Reccession → u/catch22-]

Space should never have been privatized and having multiple rich guys wasting our limited non renewable resources on this shit is dumb as fuck.

[u/AyeMatey]

Clown show

Trump points to Elon
Elon points to Trump

Both of them ducking responsibility

Harry Truman they ain’t.

Clowns . Corrupt billionaires have taken over the country.

[u/MultiGeometry → u/AyeMatey]

Trump pointing to Elon shows extreme weakness. Because that means he doesn’t have control over Elon.

[u/AyeMatey → u/MultiGeometry]

Any time a leader points to someone outside his control ..: weakness. Trump is pointing to Elon and Zelensky and Biden as the people responsible for his screwups.

[u/calvin43 → u/AyeMatey]

Boss Tweedle-Dumb

*You know that 'dumb' has a 'b' in it? Nobody knew that.

[u/ArtDan4Eva]

So as expected, the shitty parties in this scenario all acted shitty.

[u/kraeutrpolizei → u/ArtDan4Eva]

And along their interests

[u/bsiu]

A week after Zelenskyy noted propaganda and troll accounts on X went dark after an air strike hit a Yandex data center.

Only person with thinner skin than Trump is Musk.

[u/Chilluminatti]

So Musk is back, he is gonna screw things up even more until everyone stops buying Teslas again and then he will dissapear for 6 months until sales have gone up again.

The cycle just repeats itself

[u/Braindead_Crow → u/Chilluminatti]

But his car flies now! He's a genius bro! You're just a hater! He's so smart! The people he pays to do things are doing things I don't understand but look cool so that makes elon cool!

/s

[u/Civil-Attempt-3602 → u/Braindead_Crow]

This is genuinely what the Tesla subs are saying.

I saw it come up and thought I was going nuts. The car is like 9 years late and has thrusters to distract from the fact it's never coming out lol

[u/aboutchocolate → u/Civil-Attempt-3602]

the guy put on a life-sized hotwheels demo and people are basically crows...

[u/Braindead_Crow → u/aboutchocolate]

Excuse me?!

[u/DoubleJumps → u/Civil-Attempt-3602]

It's pretty crazy that those people think that there's actually going to be a consumer car with rocket thrusters on it.

This is very clearly just a stunt to juice stock. There isn't even a practical reason for any of this and it's never going to be streer legal.

[u/TimSylvester_ → u/Civil-Attempt-3602]

Full self driving next year though!

[u/Flamebrush → u/Chilluminatti]

Only now we’ll be cancelling Starlink, as well.

[u/octohawk_]

So Musk blames Trump and the White House blames Musk. What a shitshow. I hope the Ukrainian's find a different option. Situations like this should be discouraging any country from purchasing and/or signing contracts for use of weapons/tech that can be manipulated like this.

[u/Puzzleheaded_irl → u/octohawk_]

I wish the headline had been clearer. The report reveals that it was Elon himself who suggested that Starlink services be restricted.

[u/TickingTheMoments → u/octohawk_]

How about they just stick with the correct opinion. Both shit stains are colluding against Ukraine.

[u/Ok_Art4661]

Musk is an enemy combatant in this war now. A Russian sabatour 

[u/Vaginite → u/Ok_Art4661]

Saboteur

[u/zaqwert6]

Enemy of the state, both of them.

[u/BRobs0420]

The sitting president of the United States allowed it greatest adversary free reign to murder Ukrainian citizens.

[u/valen2384]

He suggested it because Ukraine was very effective in hitting the bot farms which effects his Twitter maga bots. 😆

[u/grigribs]

It is not normal for a business executive to have so much power over a nation and its international relations.

[u/Spruce_Schmickington → u/grigribs]

Sadly it is. 

[u/InevitableArea1]

To be clear, Poland paid for it. This isn't denying Ukraine aid, this is actively sabotaging them.

[u/apissyfilter]

I hate that bloated little toad tittied ass chode with every bit of my being.

[u/shindiggaa → u/apissyfilter]

Which one?

[u/CharcuterieIsAwesome]

The real story is how Musk and Trump were close before the 2024 election and Musk was accused of helping Trump win because "he knows the voting machines better than anyone" and then they were enemies, and now Musk is suddenly back in the Whitehouse right before midterms

[u/QuantumSystems → u/CharcuterieIsAwesome]

Because he doesn't want the democrats to investigate him and/or stop his gravy train.

[u/school_bus_lunchbox]

Elon Musk was waaaaaay too much unelected power. Money, Starlink, etc

[u/MrCoolizade]

The callous disregard of lives that are lost from their choices. They don't care who dies as long as they can stay in power.

[u/DNAturation]

Aside from the obvious negative PR, I feel like this sends out a very dangerous signal for all countries using any US made military hardware or services. This was bought and paid for by countries for Ukraine to use militarily, and USA just unilaterally cut it off at a critical time.

If USA is willing to do this for Starlink, why wouldn't they do this for stuff like F-35 or anything else they sell? Other countries surely realize this, so wouldn't this kill USA's MIC?

[u/RaynOfFyre1]

Part of me thinks that Elon got his ego bruised when people started noticing that engagement on his Twitter posts dramatically decreased when Ukraine started taking out Russian bot farms data centers, so he wanted their drone strike abilities taken away.

Another part of me thinks that maybe Elon and Trump are in cahoots with Russia to keep those Russian bot farms as strong and active as they can be through the midterms to help stir up social discourse within the U.S. and promote ultra conservative, right wing, evangelical, MAGA, etc. propaganda

[u/JEFDETH666]

Musk needs to pay……dearly

[u/mitgo01]

Six of one, half dozen of another. They’re both in cahoots with Russia. Probably worked together on this murderous activity.

[u/stuphanie]

Musk is a menace to the planet.

[u/khyphenj]

Turns out Elon is also a Russian asset.

[u/CurlOfTheBurl11]

Meanwhile, Musk is out here still trying to put all the blame on Trump. They're both war criminals.

[u/bluehat9]

I hate to be hasty, but i think the next president should nationalize spacex on emergency national security grounds.

[u/KorsaDK]

Traitors to the west. All of them.

[u/McG0788]

Time to seize spaceX

[u/mefree1960]

It scares the bejesus out of me that these 2 mentally unstable geniuses/s have access to world ending power.

[u/Baz_123]

He's directly attacking Ukraine. That's a dangerous thing to do Elmer. 😳

[u/mindlessASSHOLE]

Elon needs those Russian data centers or X(twitter) is fucked

[u/Fit-Significance-436]

Everything that happens to starlink in Ukraine is a musk-trump pact, wake up

[u/wdean13]

why is no one talking about how much this will hurt the value of starlink in the long run ---no gov`t is going to trust this system if it can be shut down anytime elon gets his panties in a twist.

[u/Reddit_2_2024]

I encourage all Europeans to cancel Starlink subscriptions, as well as social media platform X usage, and to never purchase Tesla vehicles in response to this unhinged throttling of satellite service access to Ukraine who is defending its territory from illegal Russian special military operation.

[u/ioncat144]

So the POS likes to play god by flipping the switch on and off? He needs a ride to Zelensky's doorstep, I can donate to the cab ride...

[u/Diesel_Donkey]

He was more concerned about consumer response in Europe than people getting killed? What a weasely sack of shit he is.

[u/YourOwnComeback]

Are people just forgetting that Musk has done this exact thing before?

[u/Morgannin09]

It is exactly what I suspected. They are both playing volleyball with the blame when they are, in fact, both complicit with the decision. It's a joke to them both.

[u/wrecklesspup]

Musk is such an awful human being.

[u/WinnieFuckingPooh]

During the Cold War, if a U.S. official had been suspected of working for the Communists, they would have at least been arrested; yet today, an agent of the Kremlin heads the White House, and the FBI and CIA do nothing.

[u/NotAFanOfLeonMusk]

Trump and Musk are compromised. They should be jailed. Along with the rest of the corrupt Trump family.

[u/EvidenceBeliever]

So they both lied.

[u/NotAdrienBrody]

Oh won’t someone rid us of this meddlesome Musk

[u/cheddarben]

I mean, it was announced literally a few weeks ago that Elon was going to be on some sort of board for Pete Hegseth. Of course these dickwads planned it. Also, there is a reasonable chance the President of the United States is a foreign agent.

[u/Bronzyroller]

To think a president of the US is a Russian asset and sabotaging everything

[u/yogfthagen]

Sure would be a shame if Musk were to lose his citizenship based on his fraudulent overstay of his student visa....

[u/Julian_Thorne]

what a pair of losers

[u/FranksWateeBowl]

I just knew it was both of those slimy fucks.

[u/ChrisliberatedfromUS]

boycott Tesla and Twitter

[u/lootcritter]

Time to nationalize Spacex and Starlink, after we remove Trump.

[u/Eatpineapplerightnow]

He just gave his own product the worst possible PR imaginable. For a "smart man" he is pretty fucking dumb

[u/ForceOne2231]

This needs to be investigated as a war crime.

[u/Bigchunky_Boy]

Musk is a global threat to civilization.

[u/24_August_1814]

A senior source told the Telegraph that after the chaos and violence that followed the restriction, Musk was concerned about negative consumer reactions in Europe.

Good. Fuck that greasy little Nazi turd.

[u/mrbasedballed]

Elon Musk is responsible for the butchering of our allies, he should be arrested immediately.

[u/Fit-Let8175]

In their defense, it must be tough trying to simultaneously support a Russian dictator while trying to establish your own dictatorship.

[u/school_bus_lunchbox]

Next administration and Congress had better nationalize Starlink via eminent domain for national security.

[u/likeonions]

remember when musk said trump was in the epstein files

[u/warcraftnerd1980]

More deaths on musks hands. Still a rounding error to his dodge deaths

[u/Old_Mousse_5673]

Of course he did. Because Musk is unhappy about Ukraine bombing the Russian data centres which help spread his propaganda

[u/sten45]

The rest of us are not people to them

[u/mabden]

Without reading the article, why would musk suggest this?

[u/I-seddit → u/mabden]

Ukraine blew up his already "paid for" propaganda machine in Russia.
And he wasn't smart enough to have a backup.
People forget Musk is spending more than anyone in history on the midterms, only Republicans give him the "return" he needs. Anyone not corrupt enough for him is a danger.

[u/Original-Rush139 → u/mabden]

Right?!? As the CEO of an electric car company, he should love that fossil fuels are the major weakness being exploited in this war. It’s the best advertising for his product you could possibly ask for. 

Instead, he’s just showing us why we need to privatize his other businesses and throw him in a South African jail. 

[u/wolflordval → u/mabden]

Because he really likes the taste of Putin's ballsack.

[u/SayNoToTeamSports → u/mabden]

Do you want a legitimate answer rather than ragepost like the others here? 

Long story short, military use of Starlink services in offensive weaponry makes Starlink a legal target in the war under international law, but because of domestic legal reasons, Starlink cannot unilaterally limit service at this point, so it wants the US Government to tell it to do so.

[u/frozen_pope]

Limiting the capabilities of a country being invaded is unforgivable.

[u/Severe_Air_4353]

Bull both work for russia

[u/Fun-Pomegranate9900]

Im sure it came from within the Whitehouse

[u/drinkduffdry]

Definitely going to need some post election congressional hearings

[u/Boys4Ever]

Starting to think perhaps Elon also a Russian asset

[u/MoreOrLess_iGuess]

It’s really not a stretch to believe they were both in on the decision

[u/Dr-Yoga]

The Nazi is running the White House….vote him out!!!!!

[u/cerealbh]

I have a hard time believing these type of stories, disabling access is going to leave a trail. People inside spacex are gunna see this shit and report on it.

[u/No-Introduction3287]

Boycott Elon

[u/Garconanokin]

I wonder how many Ukrainian deaths this resulted in? If I were Ukrainian, I would be thinking that Musk would be to blame for these deaths.

Maybe he’ll stop supporting the Russians if they ask him nicely. Maybe it takes more than that.

[u/analyticaljoe]

People are dying in Ukraine due to Russian agression.

Perhaps Elon should not be making himself a target like this. What could go wrong if a pro-Ukranian person decided Elon was the cause? IDK but seems bad.

[u/Boromirin]

It's beyond too far and has been for a long time. It's time for the Epstein class to end. Nobody should have this much influence. It's billionaires or us and there are more of us.

[u/motionSymmetry]

use me as your tool

i think musk should be tried for mass murder. it should be the international criminal court - which requires u.s. acquiescence, so this would be a post-trump action - since the deaths he has some necessary responsibility for are mostly on foreign soil

[u/DerpsAndRags]

Getting in a few favors before rolling up his sleeves on the election interference.

[u/Free-Routine7230]

Musk is nothing but a piece of shit

[u/Hesychios]

Those two nutsacks were deeply angered by the wrecking of the bot farms.

That was an important element they were counting upon in the campaign.

[u/Naive-Picture-500]

Of course, they are both complete assholes.

[u/HandsomeVish]

And this is why we are happy with no starlink in India, we don't want this moron and his buddy president to wake up one day and say let's shut down the internet from India.

[u/ironbrewcanada]

And now every country with F35's is looking for the next plane...

[u/SensitiveObject2]

These are not good people.

[u/Kaya_kana]

Sanction Elon Musk.

[u/Nick85er]

Musk is a national security threat, as much as 47, if not more so.

[u/Wooden_Customer_8610]

How can the world just be ok with these rich people playing god

[u/Herb-Alpert]

Fascist scum

[u/Scared-Photo-1047]

Not buying a Tesla for my next car. BYD for me!

[u/flangler]

Arrest Elon Musk NOW.

[u/whatproblems]

so they’re both blaming each other while accepting it?

[u/peidinho31]

Feels like there will be Russian intervention on the mid terms.

[u/Kind-Philosopher5077]

No, musk suggested that trump and epstein raped kids and said he had the proof.

[u/Tom1952Phx]

And now the Two of them. Lie like hell each denying they had anything to do with it. WHO believes it. Both tied oh real close to Putin

[u/The-Flying-Waffle]

That’s the script. Clearly Trump told Musk. Hell Trump isn’t even smart enough to do that.

[u/sionnach_fi]

Elon lied, Ukrainians died.

He put American lives in danger also.

[u/GuiltyOfSin]

More proof that trump is a Russian asset

[u/Bidet2You]

Cancel all starlink contracts for US goverment. Can’t trust it now.

[u/mipicalo]

Both Trump and Musk are cowards and liars. They know they made the decisions that killed so many innocent lives and now pretend it wasn’t up to them. Toddlers have better sense of responsibility. They make me sick.

[u/Ok-Play-15]

Invite him to Europe and arrest his ass and hold him until after the midterms

[u/neverthesaneagain]

Just a coincidence that Russia launched such large attacks after the US stopped sharing info and starling was throttled...

[u/dexxii]

If he did it to them, he can do it to us.

[u/unfairrobot]

Musk didn't lie, he just told the truth in a way that covered up his own damning actions, because despite being the richest and one of the most powerful men in the world, he's still a fucking pussy.

[u/Madjack66]

Sounds like Musk needs a break. Perhaps he could ask around to find out which island has the wildest parties.

[u/Student___Driver]

Treason.

[u/Disco425]

No way will I ever buy a Tesla

[u/SluggardStone]

I'll vote for anyone that deports Musk.

[u/Alert-Ad3153]

They're both lying traitors.

[u/Stoneyofcs]

So, the US is going to help Putin run through Europe? Then Putin will help Trump with taking Greenland and maybe Canada?

[u/PurpleSailor]

Deport him immediately for treason and falsifying immigration records decades ago.

[u/bigboyg]

Evil. So many things he could have been, and he chose evil.

[u/Distinct-Priority-62]

Every country in the the world that values decency ,democracy, truth, completely ban all tesla products. Make it impossible for this nut case to have any influence . He would soon become a distant memory.

[u/Oolacile_Resident]

The shackles around your ancles are not locked. Liberate yourself from your masters, America.

[u/_Thorshammer_]

I think it's bold that spies would let themselves be photographed engaging in illicit activity.

John LeCarre would never.

[u/Alive_kiwi_7001]

It's like a bus-throwing relay race.

"Wasn't me, was the other guy."

"No, the other guy did this."

"But it was his idea..."

[u/PrrrromotionGiven1 → u/Alive_kiwi_7001]

Please, please, gentlemen. You can both be fascist scum.

[u/KimsboyFox]

They’re both traitors and Russian assets who Putin is playing