r/worldnews • u/EnoughPrimary6700 • 1d ago
Russia/Ukraine Former Ukrainian president Yushchenko writes open letter to Trump
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2026/10/14/8057910/2.7k
u/SonofTreehorn 1d ago
Trump’s actions will result in more countries seeking nuclear weapons to level the playing field. He’s effectively removed the U.S. as a trustworthy ally.
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u/StinkyHeXoR 1d ago
Paid by Vladimir Putin, Xi Jinping and Kim Jong Un, he is just doing what he is supposed to do. Bringing down the empire.
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u/totallyRebb 1d ago
Trump and the Trump family know that Donnie won't be president for too long. But these guys will be for a while. He just has to do maximum damage while he's left in power.
Expect them to eventually go into "Exile" in these countries at some point.
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u/Halbaras 1d ago
South Korea in particular seems like a strong candidate for reconsidering nukes. This year they've seen:
- The fuel imports they were heavily dependent on from the Middle East being heavily disrupted because of the US.
- The Americans then plundering parts of the South Korea-based THAAD system because Iran fought back too effectively.
- The US president demanding they send sailors into the Strait to die for Netanyahu.
- That same president praising North Korea and scaling back joint military exercises as much as he was capable of doing, because they refused to do the above.
- The US repeatedly trying to extort them, threatening tariffs and lying or exaggerating apparent investment deals in US fossil fuels.
- The Gulf States getting fucked over by their 'security guarantees' because the guarantor was the one starting the war with the threatening regional power.
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u/saln1 1d ago
Didnt he also arrest hundreds of South Korean workers building a factory in the USA?
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u/xCharg 22h ago
You forgot the part where South Korean workers from a factory (I forgot which) were mass deported from US.
But on the other hand, these past few months alone South Korea:
blew out massive nothingburger scandal with Ukraine
provided russia with fuel
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u/NudebranchLeader 19h ago
The plant was in Georgia and now the “workers (have) filed administrative claims against DHS, ICE, CBP, the FBI, the DOJ, and the DOL (a required precursor to a federal lawsuit). They allege unlawful detention, excessive force, shackling, racial profiling, and being pressured to sign documents they could not understand. [1, 2, 3]
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u/lifeinthebeastwing 23h ago
Pretty sure there must be a dozen or so countries that basically have them already they just have to tighten the last few screws in to make them fully operational
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u/B_Type13X2 20h ago
A lot of countries, Canada being one of them, have the capabilities to rapidly develop their own weapons, and given how the US is acting, they would be foolish not to. We'll just go back to mutually assured destruction, aka we can both lose as a means to secure our borders/peace.
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u/tattlerat 18h ago
Canada would need to have the utmost top secret development program to get away with it. Right now the current administration would see it as an act of aggression. Previous admins would have welcomed us having them and we were foolish not to have secured a place as a nuclear nation through blind trust of our. Neighbours and NATO.
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u/LeedsCastleResident 15h ago
What is ironic is that Trump yelled at others countries for not spending enough on their military and not meeting their NATO commitments. But if Canada does (and it is getting close to it), he’ll see it as a threat.
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u/SassyDuck4231 14h ago
It's been said that "For Japan, nuclear weaponization is an engineering problem, not a scientific one."
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u/Bill_Door_8 1d ago
Shit man as a Canadian I never thought I'd say "we need nukes" but here we are.
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u/sjogren 1d ago
Canada either needs nukes, or an umbrella agreement with a reliable nuclear partner. Likely France or the UK. They aren't safe right now.
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u/Freshwater_Spaceman 1d ago
The UK’s missiles are serviced in the USA. It’s a theoretical point of weakness for the whole system when considering a Trumper style administration.
Not sure about France. Their historical post war scepticism of the USA makes me suspect that they are in a different position.
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u/sjogren 1d ago
France's nuclear program is completely independent. Thank Charles de Gaulle.
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u/cyberthief 1d ago
France just happens to have a couple islands on the east coast of Canada. Would be convenient for Canada if they had nukes there.
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u/linerva 21h ago
I wonder...This may unironically be why we want to get into the EU (or at least there is lots of talk), to team up with France regarding our nuclear missiles.
But also because Trump 2.0 has proven that we are all more vulnerable alone, abd the US cabt be trusted. I'd be all fired Canada, aus, nz etc joining if they wanted abd fit criteria.
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u/SirCharlesTupperBt 21h ago
I agree that some sort of partnership with France should be our short term goal, but given how pro-Russia the RN is, putting our ultimate security in the hands of Paris may not be a feasible strategy much longer. We need France to deter Russia and potentially the United States, not for them to hand themselves to Putin and MAGA on a platter.
I think that our deepening defence relationship with the Nordics leads us down a path where one day we develop our own deterrent, probably in collaboration with Sweden, if only because there's some safety in numbers and nobody wants to be the first to break the taboo. The hardest part of a nuclear programme for either of us is building the delivery system, we already have the domestic nuclear industry, R&D, and industrial capacity to build a weapon on quite short order. We just lack the political will and the imagination to see that this will be necessary.
I say this as somebody who would prefer the abolition of nuclear weapons far more than further proliferation.
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u/SmoothConfection1115 1d ago
Trump removed the US as a reliable ally, but Putin and Bush demonstrated everyone needs nuclear weapons.
Saddam was told get rid of his nuclear weapons. He either did, or was truthful about not having any. Bush proceeded to invade Iraq for no discernible reason, and topple him. When the mastermind of 9-11, was in Pakistan. Who has…nuclear weapons
Putin pressured Ukraine to give up its nuclear weapons or be invaded. They did. Back in 94-96. Then after moving around, they got invaded. Notice how Putin didn’t mess with anyone in NATO directly, or someone with nukes?
It’s been shown the only way to ward off an aggressor, is with nukes.
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u/eskimospy212 1d ago
Putin did not pressure Ukraine to give up its nukes - he was not president of Russia then.
Overall I agree with your point though. If I’m a country that can develop nuclear weapons I’m going to because the rules based order is over.
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u/kaplanfx 17h ago
The discernible reason is oil. It’s basically the entire crux of geopolitics post WW2. You’d be shocked to know if you look it up that Venezuela has the largest proven oil reserves and Iran is #3. Oh and guess who is #4? Canada. Iraq is #5…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_proven_oil_reserves
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u/Zonel 1d ago
No it was Yeltsin who got Ukraine to give up the Soviet missiles Ukraine didn’t even have the launch codes for.
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u/English_Cat 1d ago
It's worth mentioning that Ukraine was not able to use or maintain said nuclear arsenal at the time regardless, so it was never really an option to keep them.
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u/saln1 1d ago
They had the physical nukes and retrofitting the trigger could be done by a PHD student. It’s not accurate to say they couldn’t have control of them if they wanted to
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u/Periwinkle_Lost 1d ago
I think you are grossly underestimating what goes into maintenance of nuclear weapons
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u/Revlis-TK421 20h ago edited 20h ago
Depends on what you want out of it. If you just want the capability to detonate a dirty bomb then you don't need to maintain the ICBM delivery system or a precision nuclear trigger.
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u/apples_vs_oranges 22h ago
Generating the fissile material is the hard part (see: Iran's centrifuges). Figuring out how to detonate them is relatively easily once you have enough material. Even if maintenance is shoddy, there is still enough deterrence once a country has shown they have them (see: Russia).
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u/Tyrx 22h ago
It’s like if Texas seceded from the US and suddenly claimed it had America’s nuclear arsenal because the weapons happened to be stationed there. The nukes are physically on your territory, but the launch codes, command structure and ability to independently operate them are a different matter.
When the USSR collapsed, pretty much everyone wanted those nukes gone. The US, Russia and the wider international community pushed for ALL the former Soviet states which had physical possession of weapons to give them up.
Trying to keep them would’ve meant massive international pressure and potentially becoming a pariah. It wasn’t as simple as just deciding to keep the nukes and calling it a day.
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u/MirageMageknight 23h ago
I certainly find it unlikely that any country will ever again give up their nukes.
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u/HammerT1m3 23h ago
Ukraine had the nukes stationed on their territory, yes, but the general consensus is that they had no way to activate and use them due to various systems required for that, and maintaining them would have been a very expensive endeavour for a freshly independent country still recovering from a famine.
So giving them up really wasn’t that big of a choice.
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u/RepulseRevolt 23h ago
South Korea, Canada, Japan, Taiwan, most countries bordering Russia, and don’t even get started on the Middle East
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u/SnooEagles8912 23h ago
No nuclear armed country, big or small, has ever been invaded. That tells you a lot
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u/Glittering_Ride842 21h ago
Unless you count the Ukrainian incursion into the Kursk region?
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u/RadicalOrganizer 1d ago
Yushchenko is a family friend. He is a good man and has gone through a LOT. And he is right, Trump is psychotic for siding with russia
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u/Sm0g3R 1d ago
100%. But we know for a fact Trump is not gonna read this letter. And even if he will, he is not going to understand 80% of it.
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u/RadicalOrganizer 1d ago
Oh yeah, very well known fact that trump can't read.
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u/Darth_Snitker 1d ago
He is a family friend of yours?
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u/RadicalOrganizer 1d ago
Yes. My family also just was awarded a medal by Zelenskyy at the UN. My family is much cooler than I am. Fun fact, my dog bit Yushcenko's staffers ankle when we were playing baseball in my backyard. This was before the Orange revolution. I learned then that you dont play catch with a cattle dog around.
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u/Darth_Snitker 1d ago
That's pretty cool, was he any good at baseball?
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u/RadicalOrganizer 1d ago
It was just playing catch while my dad made burgers. But he didnt suck at it. Ruslana came to my 18th bday as well and sang happy birthday. That was cool. We're very Ukrainian-American lol
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u/Cauvinus 23h ago
You don’t read comments like this everyday, that’s pretty interesting.
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u/RadicalOrganizer 23h ago
I have many comments like this. Rudy Giuliani is my sisters god father and russian collusion is real. He tried to introduce us to his 'business partners'. We told him who his partners worked for and he said "no theyre going to make me a million bucks". It did not.
Liz Cheney was our neighbor and my dad was in Reagans cabinet so we had dinner with the bushes, Cheney, diplomats all the time.
Seen some shit, heard a lot more.
Tldr: Republicans are corrupt AF.
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u/TxHow7Vk 23h ago
Man that's wild. I could listen to your stories all day.
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u/Leezeebub 22h ago
You should hear about his uncle who works at nintendo
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u/RadicalOrganizer 22h ago
Haha nah. Uncle is a piece of shit pod caster. We don't talk to him
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u/40to6inthe4th 21h ago
Good lord, its insane to me that people here just take other random commentors at their word. No wonder we are doomed.
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u/Mission_Shopping_847 18h ago
You're oversharing. You've given enough info to de-anonymize yourself and you've said enough to anger the wrong people; people have been harmed for less.
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u/kevinthebaconator 20h ago
Its interesting to me that you would so casually do yourself
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u/RadicalOrganizer 20h ago
Eh, Im a pretty publicly known person, not too worried about it
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u/Mewhomewhy 1d ago
Trump getting more orders that he’ll present as “from Ukrainians” when they’re from Putin.
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u/narayan77 1d ago
Trump is a Putin asset I hope the Republican Party wakes up.
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u/GiJoint 1d ago edited 1d ago
Lmao. You hope the Republican Party wakes up? He’s only been a Putin asset for how long now? geez.
Republicans don’t give a shit. Trump owns them.
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u/Muad_dweeb_69 22h ago
Yeah it’s such a ridiculous thing to say at this point. It’s been said for what, like a decade now? I think the ship has sailed on any Republican accountability.
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u/apissyfilter 22h ago
My guy, he’s got 2 years left of his second term in office, their time to wake up was during the first term.
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u/roscomikotrain 1d ago
They're complicit in all his other crimes - what makes you think this will cross the line and force some resistance??
The USA is lost- it is not a democracy.
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u/ericrobertshair 20h ago
Wake up? We had Moscow Mitch way before Trump was on the scene.
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u/Kenai-Phoenix 19h ago
Now Mitch should not be allowed in the Senate, he can not even say one word, or close that cadaver mouth of his! Damn place needs age limits and term limits across the board, including the corrupt Supreme Court. There were 3 judges being interviewed for the job, all 3 said they would never overturn Roe vs Wade, their first order of business was to overturn it. How can anyone be a Supreme Court justice when they lied to get the job?
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u/gothteen145 1d ago
Thing is, I really can't tell if he's actually some asset trying to deliberately lift up Russia and sabotage the US, or if he's just an idiot who thinks Putin is his friend plus Putin gives him compliments so therefore Russia is the good guy and Ukraine is the bad guy (I honestly lean more towards the later).
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u/fucking_4_virginity 1d ago
It doesn’t really matter, the outcome is the same.
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u/gothteen145 1d ago
Of course, I agree there. But I often see comments like "Trump is deliberately weakening the US and is serving his master Putin"
When I think the answer is much more simple than that. He's a mentally ill idiot who genuinely thinks Putin is his good friend and that Ukraine is working against him
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u/AgitatedEdge213 23h ago
Trump never got over that Zelensky derangement syndrome.
You know, the quid pro quo Trump presented to get dirt on Biden that led to Trumps first impeachment
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u/Horny_Speedster 22h ago
The fact that he tried that, is more evidence for Putin having dirt on him.
"I help Russia so they don't release the files. If Biden helps Ukraine they must have something on him."
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u/GuitarGeezer 22h ago
Trump is not a puppet of Putin, it is worse. He legit IS a Putin type in his own right. He dissed the Russian sub to get the Venezuelan tanker and likely pocketed the sales. Trump does absolutely support Russia against any European country and wants the war to last but only because it distracts NATO and gives him a more free hand with pressure to annex Canada and Greenland. And because he genuinely believes in Dictator Club for Men and so desperately wants to be seen as one of them. They aren’t friends but he cannot see that due perhaps to daddy issues from his dad Fraud Trump. Maybe it was Fred. Nope. Definitely fraud.
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u/LilLebowskiAchiever 23h ago
Russian officials have been playing hard-to-get with Trump since 1987. They know Trump’s biggest lust is to for Russia’s wealth.
So they tantalize him with ownership opportunities at Gazprom, Moscow real estate, joint operations in occupied Ukrainian mines, etc.
But Trump will get none of it in the end, or what he does get will be clawed back. I can’t figure out why he is too stupid to figure that out. No Americans since Armon Hammer in the 80s have reaped billions from Russian lands.
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u/Expensive-Truck1292 22h ago
Oh man it goes back wayyy further than and deeper than that..even his lawyer and friend got busted for owning ans knowing allowing a group of the Russian mob to use his building as a center of operations and they targeted People and business with info given to them by guess who? Or when he was building some trashy luxury apartments it was filled with Russian mafia and high level gov. His wife has tons of ties too. But unfortunately all this info has to be read so it may as well not exist
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u/rotatingmonster 17h ago
He is an active Russian agent. It is time we wake up and stop acting like he's too dumb to know. He and Putin are allies. No other explanation makes any sense. He is loyal to the Russians. His kids take money from Russian oligarchs. They are absolutely looting America for themselves just like Putin and his cronies do. And they have a place to escape to if Americans ever wake the hell up.
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u/arrig-ananas 13h ago
Putin is a ruthless man who's carrier up through the KGB, trained him to manipulate and intimidate his opponents to achieve his goals. Trump is not the most difficult challenge he has faced.
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u/TheDevil-YouKnow 23h ago
He's been owned by Russia since the '80s. He's just never been dangerous until the '10s, and his handlers saw the opportunity when a black man began running for the Presidency.
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u/CloggedBathtub 1d ago
Too bad he can't read
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u/livinginahologram 1d ago
« In 1994, the United States of America, along with its partners, signed the Budapest Memorandum, providing Ukraine with official assurances of security, sovereignty, and the inviolability of our borders.
They pledged not to threaten or use force against Ukraine. America assumed a moral responsibility toward Ukraine. So how can anyone today, when a treacherous enemy has attacked us, forget America's signature on this document? »
Even if Trump could read, this is language he doesn't understand.
Even if he could understand the language, understanding the message requires having values that he lacks.
Unfit for office.
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u/LilLebowskiAchiever 23h ago
That letter would come across like a lecture to Trump, and he would respond with oppositional defiance.
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u/DocPsychosis 1d ago
Trump is a corrupt hack and Ukraine is worth helping. That said, the Budapest Memo is not a defense treaty, it's a nonaggression pact. The US has held up it's promise on that front, it's Russia which has violated it.
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u/Slappyfist 21h ago edited 20h ago
Doesn't work like that unfortunately, when it goes down in history.
Whilst technically correct the US will take moral damage from not assisting Ukraine fully. Is that fair or even logical...dunno, can debate that but it's the way this sort of thing works.
Context I'm thinking of is WW1, I'm from the UK and we had no obligation to join in at all except for a gentleman's agreement from our foreign secretary with France that wasn't written down or agreed to by our government.
When the new government found out that our old foreign secretary had been making these promises to France they felt they didn't have a choice but follow through with what was promised and I think we would have been viewed negatively in history if we hadn't, even though we had a fair argument to get out of it.
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u/lost_horizons 20h ago
But does honor still exist? All evidence points to “no”.
Sadly.
I believe honor, honesty, integrity, and that kind of thing matters, in leaders (and in everyone) but such things are not held up as valued or even mentioned much at all.
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u/enakj 21h ago
In case the link doesn’t work for you:
Viktor Yushchenko, Ukraine's third president, has written an open letter to US President Donald Trump over his agreement with Russian ruler Vladimir Putin on diesel fuel.
Quote: "And against this reality, Ukrainians hear calls that Ukraine should stop. That Ukraine should restrain its strikes against the infrastructure that finances and sustains Russia's war. That trade in Russian energy can somehow be separated from the missiles and drones Russia sends against Ukrainian families. It cannot.
Money paid for Russian fuel is not an abstraction called 'commerce' It finances an economy geared toward total war."
Details: Yushchenko also reflected on events more than three decades ago, when the Soviet Union was breaking up.
He noted that Ukraine had then possessed the world's third-largest nuclear arsenal. "In negotiations with our allies, we agreed to give it up. We did so because we believed that a world governed by agreements was safer than a world governed by nuclear weapons."
Quote: "In 1994, the United States of America, along with its partners, signed the Budapest Memorandum, providing Ukraine with official assurances of security, sovereignty, and the inviolability of our borders.
They pledged not to threaten or use force against Ukraine. America assumed a moral responsibility toward Ukraine. So how can anyone today, when a treacherous enemy has attacked us, forget America's signature on this document?"
Background:
On 9 October, Trump said he had spoken to Putin and reached an agreement with him on the supply of Russian diesel fuel to the US and global markets.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Trump's decision to unilaterally lift sanctions on Russia and allow it to export diesel fuel was unfair and dishonest.
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u/NorthernRascal 19h ago
Under that current administration, the US has abrogated all sense of moral duty.
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u/18MazdaCX5 1d ago
I think Ukraine should get their nukes back. People complaining about helping them... okay... no problem. Let them have their nukes back and then everyone wins. War is over. Until then, maybe we could remember the agreement we signed back then?
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u/According-Gear-8217 1d ago
Lets be real: If Ukraine is not allowed into NATO or EU for protection (whether to due not fullfilling all requirements or members just blocking Ukraine out of spite like Trump will) or station their own troops to protect Ukraine Nukes Are the only option left unless Russia completely collapses.
I mean seriously what else is there left? Expect Ukraine to accept another Budapest memoradum or peace deal and hope Russia does not violate this one? Sorry but that is soooo idiotic with how many times Russia has violated any peace deal or offer.
Its either give Ukraine a actual defence plan that would protect them (Like NATO) or don't in which case don't complain when Ukraine gets nukes to protect itself.
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u/spasticwomble 16h ago
in any other country the people would have taken to the streets to get rid of a traitor like Trump. So why have the Americans just sat back and allowed this to happen
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u/eurydicewrites 10h ago edited 5h ago
Hello! I am an American watching in horror as my government betrays our allies. If you were a citizen of the United States, what action would you take? Those of us who believe in the Constitution are voting. We are protesting. We are boycotting. We are dissenting. We are trying to use the tools our founding fathers left us. Is there a specific action that you believe an individual citizens of the United States should be taking? If so i would love to hear your feedback.
Edit: Since a few replies ask why we don't riot: it's intentional. The tradition we come out of is Jesus, Howard Thurman and Martin Luther King, and they helped end Jim Crow without throwing a brick. Nonviolent campaigns also win about twice as often as violent ones (Chenoweth and Stephan counted every one from 1900 to 2006). Longer version in my reply further down.
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u/Trachamudija1 9h ago
That is not neccessary directed to you, but at same time how the turn tables... I remember americans shouting to russians to go into streets, that why in usa they have guns etc... Its always easy to talk...
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u/GGuts 9h ago edited 9h ago
Indeed, after Trump one has to wonder what would be necessary for that to occur.
Being wound up tight, having no worker rights, no safety net - seems to be enough to control the US population to this degree, almost paralizing them
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u/Liiraye-Sama 7h ago edited 7h ago
No, it’s because MAGA are a literal cult. Their leader has the most power of any president ever yet he isn’t responsible for anything. It’s all the deep state you see!
Rest assured, if the democrats had acted 10% as UNHINGED as trump 2, there would be a civil war right now in the US. Fact is democrats are simply more educated, tolerant, and secular than MAGA. They criticize their own and their opposition both and the leadership responds to it, unlike the cultish devotion of MAGA.
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u/beaucoup_dinky_dau 7h ago
Yeah in case you missed it, people are dying protesting and fighting this shit, so sit back and let it happen is kind of disingenuous and discredits the collective action of millions of Americans. They are fighting one of the strongest forces in the world. The police and military are working against them at every level.
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u/Fishinluvwfeathers 4h ago
I just got back from a foray on the local message board from my city. Someone posted some sentiment regarding the disbelief of Trump openly working with Russia and, as of now, there are 33 comments ranging from calling Ukrainians genocidal fucking freaks, to talking about how many prominent democrats have had children on the board of Ukrainian companies, to saying the Ukrainian government is laundering US tax dollars with this war. These aren’t bots, these are real people in my community. If there was ever an information war we have fully lost it. My vote goes to whomever wants to bring back the Fairness Doctrine with some significant upgrades.
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u/kind_bros_hate_nazis 15h ago
Because it was done to them. This is what happens when you make it legal to fire someone for any or no reason. You tie healthcare to your job. You pay barely enough wages and pass the rest into the corporations who pay for your political parties.
This is late stage capitalism in what was once a very nice democracy. Depend on who you ask tho, always has
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u/DarkLordofDownvotes 6h ago
Dude, a large section of the country hates the other large section's guts. Independents are scattered and not part of a "party". Then you would have to confront the U.S. military who are controlled by people that have zero real qualms about killing US Citizens.
What exactly do you all expect us to do? Kill each other? Protest for a couple weeks and nothing changes? Write a letter to our fucking representatives? LOL.
America was bought and sold a long time ago. Buckle up.
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u/FastActinTenactin 6h ago
Americans are protesting. The media does not cover them.
We have a midterm election in less than a month, with many states already starting early voting. Democrats are expected to sweep and take both chambers of Congress.
Trump will not be able to run for president again, and if he tries to retain power then I would expect that would be the final straw for people in this country and we will see mass revolts in greater numbers than 2020’s summer protests.
It’s the reason they are scrambling to control the narrative, to build up mass surveillance systems (data centers, flock systems, etc), and working to cast doubt on the election.
The republicans have tried all of this before. We expect them to try again.
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u/delphinous 11h ago
you want an honest answer? theres two main factors. 1st, only a relatively small portion of the populous has the temperament to actually enact violence against the government, and currently most of them are supporters of the group in power. 2nd, as a consequence of the fact that we have frequent elections, most people would rather just suffer in silence and wait for the next election to try to get a better leader than put themselves at risk in the meantime.
historically, when you look at why the populous rebelled against the government, most of the time it's because they are starving and/or being killed in large numbers. there absolutely are tons of problems in america right now, and lots of people are unhappy about them, for the the large majority of americans, they are still able to live their day-to-day lives mostly unimpeded. yes, they are upset about things, but they aren't ;losing family members to starvation and disease' levels of upset.
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u/dontneedaknow 8h ago
Because revolution would put a lot of people here at much higher risk, and in that instance the entire world at significantly greater risk,
The reason we aren't just clamoring to topple the government is because of Ruby Ridge, The Waco Seige, and the Oklahoma City Bombing, and like 700,000,000 guns?
ITs not even this government that's scary. Its the idiots that claim to follow jesus, while hating Jews, while blowing up federal buildings in the memory of weirdos building cults that claim they are messengers from god so they can fuck peoples children calling it whatever psychotic fever dream they can come up with.
Trump got elected by a fuck ton of people that are a lot more real about that shit than trump.. and were just trying to make sure that snake only eats itself right now.
Destabilizing the shit and giving reason for a crack down and emergency powers is stupid.
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u/xX_7HR0W-4W4Y_Xx 4h ago
Revolutions typically need some kind of organization or leader. The opposition party is not interested in that. Everyone is banking on the midterms. I could see Reddit euro's fabled american revolution 2.0 coming after those if they end up being rigged or whatever. But who knows.
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u/Dondagora 12h ago
Kinda against the point of democracy being a peaceful transition of power. We vote an asshole in, we vote an asshole out, we vote the same asshole in, we vote the same asshole out.
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u/Liiraye-Sama 7h ago edited 7h ago
wouldn’t want to risk breaking any norms right?
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u/Dondagora 5h ago
Well, say that we take to the streets to depose of our current elected leader. Then the other side is going to take to the streets too. And I don’t think we win those.
So let’s maybe stick to the method where we have better odds.
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u/IndividualTrash5029 8h ago
Making it easy for demagoges never was "the point" of a democracy. it's the weakspot.
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u/BGFlyingToaster 5h ago
In case you haven't heard, we've protested MANY times against this moron, including the last "No Kings" protests, which was 3,300 separate protests all across the country with around 20 million people attending. Today is the latest one, starting in about 3 hrs where I am. In between those massive events, we've had smaller protests literally every weekend for months in every major city and many small towns all over the country.
Protests show elected officials that people are pissed off, but then you depend on citizens being informed at the ballot box when the officials don't listen. That's where we're fucked as a country - we have about the least politically informed citizens of any county. Our largest political media outlet knowingly lies to their viewers every day with no repercussions. It's not illegal here to lie on TV or in public, only in court or to federal officers. On top of that, there is unlimited money allowed in politics here. So it's not for lack of protesting ... it's because our laws allow exactly this situation to happen.
So we protest again today hoping that if we can get enough people behind us, then the Republicans will take a beating in the midterms and kick this moron out of office. The first is likely, but there are very few people in WA DC with enough spine to stand up to the orange man, so we'll likely just have to live with him for another 2 years.
The world is justified in their anger towards us because we literally did this to ourselves ... twice. I honestly don't think it'll get any better until the vast majority of us feel the pain.
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u/dobik 13h ago
In most cases people going to streets when year after year they are doing worse economically. RN Americans are prosperous. I am not saying everyone is rich, but they have far better than over 90% of other countries out there.
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u/HumanBeing7396 9h ago
On average Americans are prosperous, but the wealth is distributed extremely unevenly.
Unfortunately Trump convinced the people who were struggling that he was on their side and would improve things.
The people hoarding all of the money helped pay for him to do this, because they knew he was actually on their side, and would make things worse.
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u/JaxStrumley 12h ago
Than why is it such a problem for them to pay a bit more for their gas?
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u/MinimalistMentalist 15h ago
I wouldn’t say any other country, lots of countries have corrupt leadership, some even are dictatorship thinly veiled disguised as otherwise.
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u/specialpatrol 14h ago
The statement might work for "any other democratic country" .
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u/Throwawaymaybeokay 22h ago
Bold of Yushchenko to assume he can read let alone in a shred of good faith.
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u/K10RumbleRumble 1d ago
A fucking shitty New York real estate ass hat…..
Is literally going to be the face of world destruction. The catalyst.
This orange-faced pedophile is in the absolute middle of the worst possible fucking shit happening.
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u/Aware-Code7244 17h ago
“Quote: "In 1994, the United States of America, along with its partners, signed the Budapest Memorandum, providing Ukraine with official assurances of security, sovereignty, and the inviolability of our borders.” Vote. In. November.
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u/Canuck-In-TO 23h ago
The only thing you can now trust the US to do is stab you in the back.
They have no moral high ground and it’s dictated using money.
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u/WINDMILEYNO 21h ago
Wait...this guy isn't a fucking traitor? He's basically telling Trump he is a shit bag.
Interesting. Or maybe I am thinking of the wrong guy
Ah. Victor Yanukovych. Thats the guy.
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u/mephizto85 12h ago
Trump is the Americans fault, and everyday he stays in power, it’s a testament to their slight willingness to letting him run amok. Impeach Trump, you cowards
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u/Chelseanick22 22h ago
So fucking ashamed to be an American. We’re a disgrace of a country
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u/BangkokRogue 15h ago
Trump is supporting the very thing Americans have been fighting against for decades to keep the world safe
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u/Miserable_Maximum988 6h ago
Most countries experienced rule by king or by dictator etc, whomever it was that cracked the whip over the people. The people said ‘no more’ and they grew out of it. The US is full of people that believe it is worth living under that whip if it means they might get a chance to crack the whip themselves.
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u/ywg-angel-wings 23h ago
All respect to the man, but we all know Trump won't read this and probably laugh this off. It's wasted energy.
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u/sexmormon-throwaway 10h ago
Well, I have a feeling he isn't going to even fucking read the letter. Might as well go outside and scream into the sky.
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u/FaustianBargainBin 1d ago
Trump can’t read, and even if he could he wouldn’t understand the letter, and even if he could he wouldn’t care because he’s a russian puppet.
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u/Zuideind 14h ago
On the one hand, Americans are cowards who let themselves be led like meek sheep to the slaughter; on the other hand, the American police are quick to use their hands and lash out at the slightest provocation, and that does not exactly encourage people to take to the streets.
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u/BelgianGinger80 6h ago
Trump is a clown, a puppet... Putins toy. Putin knows too much about Trump and its makes him afraid.
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u/krtyalor865 23h ago
Whew! Anyone who supports Trump in all of this needs to READ this story.
“Details: Yushchenko also reflected on events more than three decades ago, when the Soviet Union was breaking up.
He noted that Ukraine had then possessed the world's third-largest nuclear arsenal. "In negotiations with our allies, we agreed to give it up. We did so because we believed that a world governed by agreements was safer than a world governed by nuclear weapons."
Quote: "In 1994, the United States of America, along with its partners, signed the Budapest Memorandum, providing Ukraine with official assurances of security, sovereignty, and the inviolability of our borders.
They pledged not to threaten or use force against Ukraine. America assumed a moral responsibility toward Ukraine. So how can anyone today, when a treacherous enemy has attacked us, forget America's signature on this document?" “