r/xmen • u/TunTunTunT • 11h ago
Movie/TV Discussion What was Cyclops waiting here for? Expecting a kiss or something?
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u/Attila1520 10h ago
Well I would be stunned if Kelly Hu jumped at me like this.
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u/dcooper8662 Gambit 10h ago
I mean he just saved Fox from having to pay for another optic blast effect, way to go champ
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u/TheodateChase Maggott 11h ago
She blocks him from touching his visor
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u/mahzian 9h ago
This, he has to open the aperture on his visor for the punch dimension to leak out.
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u/ShiftedSquid 9h ago
In the comics he had a means of opening his visor from his glove, though I suppose that may not have been a thing in the movie. I would have to rewatch and verify if there's any time where you can see him using his blast without touching his visor.
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u/Noxlygos 7h ago
I know in the OG X-Men animated series Professor X is able to summon his hoverchair via telepathy. Is that the same in the comics? If so would it not be possible to create a visor that has a mental link with Scott?
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u/whitecatsup 6h ago
There was an extended scene. But even in this she had cyclops pinned. She weighs a lot due to the adimantium . And in the Fox films cyclops cannot activate his visor unless touching the controls on the side. Unlike in the comics where he has a trigger in his gloves that opens the visor all the way incase of moments like this.
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u/TunTunTunT 6h ago
Where can I see the extended scene?
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u/whitecatsup 6h ago
The Cut Content
According to the X-Men Movies Wiki, there was an extended version of the scene that never made it into the final theatrical cut or the official DVD/Blu-ray deleted scenes: [1]
Plastic Nightstick Fight: In the unreleased, extended footage, Cyclops does more than just fire his optic blasts at Stryker's men. After swiftly neutralizing the initial two security guards, he actually picks up their plastic nightsticks/batons to engage in hand-to-hand combat against Lady Deathstrike. [1, 2]Why Was It Cut?
While 20th Century Fox never released a formal explanation for leaving this specific footage out, the sequence serves a narrative purpose in the final film: it emphasizes how easily and ruthlessly Stryker's brainwashed forces ambush the X-Men. [1, 2]
Trimming the scene down to a quick surprise attack by Deathstrike—who sneaks up behind Cyclops after he is distracted—minimized the runtime and quickly transitioned the plot to Cyclops and Professor X being taken captive. However, it remains a point of contention among X-Men fans, many of whom felt the final cut made Cyclops look far too easily defeated. [1, 2]1
u/ConnorOfAstora 5h ago
To be fair that makes sense being cut because why would he even think to fight her up close and not just shoot her with his eyes?
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u/whitecatsup 1h ago
When she showed up she shot him with the tranquilizer gun so maybe it was supposed to throw his aim off with the beam in a small room. Plus I think they wanted to show cyclops could do more than eye pew-pews.
It sorta makes sense cause if she could knock him out that easily why tranq him. But I could see the fight break out after she shoota him and he basically can’t keep up as he starts to pass out and why he couldn’t shoot her if his eye sight was fading. So she just knocked him out.
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u/Solid_Run_2378 10h ago
I believe there was an extended fight scene that was cut, which is why it looks so awkward.
I don't even know why Cyclops was in this movie when he was utterly wasted.
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u/3720-to-1 9h ago
Honestly, Xmen team stories are better suited for TV than movies. Too many characters to get the team dynamic in without watering them down
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u/Gameboy_Vic 9h ago
He was there to give the emotional weight of jean’s death without giving it to Wolverine. This way Wolverine looks cool and stoic while cyclops weeps.
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u/Arthas_SL 4h ago
He’s waiting to be removed from 90% of the movie. He’s supposed to be able to fight hand to hand but he’s useless in the Singer movies.
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u/Cultural_Sand_9323 10h ago
Bluntly?
These were Wolverine movies. Scott was an extra in that context.
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u/Fractal514 Cyclops 10h ago
He was waiting for a better movie.
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u/UnchartedCHARTz 9h ago
Isn't this from X2? That's like a top 3 X-Men movie he's gonna be waiting for a long time
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u/Fractal514 Cyclops 5h ago
Just because something is the best of its kind doesn't mean it is actually good.
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u/Imaginary-Bread7897 10h ago
It's Scott Summers, so yes. When it comes to smootches, 60% of the time it works every time.
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u/ReddiTrawler2021 6h ago
When Scott's reluctance to blast people works against him...
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u/Disastrous_Head5703 3h ago
If I had to give this movie the benefit of the doubt, Scott won't use his powers against ordinary humans unless he has absolutely no choice. Or against fellow mutants who are being used against their will to attack him. And he seemed to belated realize that a "passive" approach was a mistake.
The issue with an opponent like Lady Deathstrike: once she closes the distance, you are already dead. And Scott's melee abilities don't match an professionally-lethal superhuman with a reinforced adamantium skeleton.
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u/FUCK1NGFABULOUS Wolverine 8h ago
It’s like when you’re walking and someone sucker punches you. Literally a split second.
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u/Sn0wchaser 7h ago
It does get a little bit lost in the edit, but as she jumps he immediately reaches for the visor but she pins his arms.
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u/IcyAddress4074 10h ago
Fox X-men, especially not Wolverine, is bad and a mistake. Nightcrawler gets a pass. Wolverine gets a fail in x-3, healing factor is never that fast.
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u/KrakenKrusdr84 9h ago
Everything happened in split second timing. I hate to admit it but Scott was just too slow. Deathstrike saw an opening to attack and took it.
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u/Fit_Opening_6996 9h ago
Bro had his hand to his visor and dropped it AFTER he recognized a threat.
The laziest of lazy writing. Nerf Cyclops to hell while doing tricks on Logan's shmeat🤦♂️
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u/loki_odinsotherson Cyclops 7h ago
His thought process "oh no the professor! Wait, who's behind me? Holy shit look at that jump! How is she clinging to the wall? Oh no im unconscious!"
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u/magnetoincognito 7h ago
He wasn’t sure what to expect bc he wasn’t allowed to read the comics on set.
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u/ObviousThrowawayGG 4h ago
The writers of this movie didnt read the comics. They knew wolverine was cool which is why he was the focus. No one else is comic accurate.
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u/NewBlood94 10h ago
X2 is fine by Live action X men standards, actually one of the better Fox universe movies
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u/Friendly_Law_4447 11h ago
Well Fox Universe really wasted Cyclops and other Characters too who had Potential