[Postgame Thread] Kentucky Defeats Texas A&M 31-21

[u/CFB_Referee]

Box Score provided by ESPN

Team	1	2	3	4	T
Kentucky	0	7	21	3	31
Texas A&M	0	7	0	14	21

[u/Sweet_Baby_Cheesus]

In 14 years since Manziel, A&M has had 12 different players start at QB, and one of them (Kellen Mond) started for 4 full seasons.

How the fuck can this program not find (and keep) a good QB

Edit: because some of y'all are missing the point, I bring up Mond starting 4 years because if you remove him then we have 11 total QBs across 10 years. And then if you remove Reed we have 10 QBs across 8 years

[u/letmypeoplebathe → u/Sweet_Baby_Cheesus]

I. Would. Love. To. Fucking. Know.

[u/SaltyBarDog → u/Sweet_Baby_Cheesus]

Think you have it bad?

As a group, QBs recruited out of high school by Norvell are a combined 2-23 vs FBS opponents as starters, 0-15 after leaving FSU.

[u/Cohens4thClient → u/SaltyBarDog]

Wow, that is just awful. 

[u/dasg98 → u/Sweet_Baby_Cheesus]

Culture. You can see Reeds been partying all offseason and that’s been true from every QB Johnny included. Unless they come with discipline of their own, I am convinced our alumni structure sets these kids up for failure. There’s a reason there’s a bunch of QB transfers that do well elsewhere.

[u/gmwdim → u/dasg98]

You guys might have had one last chance but then Reed went 0/5 on that final drive. Just not even close.

[u/MikeOfAllPeople → u/gmwdim]

Is Reed really that bad or should we be suspicious?

[u/busche916 → u/MikeOfAllPeople]

He’s never been up to par against quality competition.

[u/Hawk13424 → u/dasg98]

I think King was good. Just couldn’t stay healthy, even at GT.

[u/TripleThreatTua → u/Hawk13424]

King and Weigman were both good. Just for teams other than A&M

[u/bigdaddyice69 → u/dasg98]

Nothing to do with piss poor development??

[u/handpipeman → u/dasg98]

I actually think this is a good take.

[u/loan_broker → u/dasg98]

Its your fanbase and boosters are unable to tell what an elite QB looks like. YOu were content with the last 285 mediocre QBs and dreamed a CFP appearance at the start of every season.

[u/OffTheDelt → u/dasg98]

I think a lot of it has to do with expectations and pressure. We are a program as piss poor as Iowa, but have the expectation of a program like Georgia. That does not correlate at all. That discrepancy affects our players mindset. Being successful here is just hard, despite the resources and money.

[u/archenlander → u/dasg98]

Yeah I don’t see a way for yall to find a path out of your wretched culture, have fun always falling short of preseason expectations

[u/mrmoneyinthebanks → u/archenlander]

It will take the Boomers in charge dying to even start thinking about change, so another 20 years or so

[u/CzechHorns → u/mrmoneyinthebanks]

You are putting a lot of faith in the longevity of these boomers

[u/tullbabes → u/CzechHorns]

Only the good die young

[u/Romo_9 → u/Sweet_Baby_Cheesus]

Just wanted to point out that y'all had Kyler Murray before you mismanaged him and made him leave. His dad was an alum. He then went to OU and won the Heisman.

So not a complete lack of finding QBs... Also a lack of keeping them.

[u/Sweet_Baby_Cheesus → u/Romo_9]

Sumlin mismanaging Kyler and Kyle Allen

Jimbo not being able to develop multiple top 10 QB recruits

Watching Weigman at UH and King at GT were both painful

[u/ohitsthedeathstar → u/Sweet_Baby_Cheesus]

Weigman is still balling here, by the way.

[u/Fun_Succotash4215 → u/Sweet_Baby_Cheesus]

If it makes you feel better reed is en route to be your all time passing leader

[u/XxtexasxX → u/Fun_Succotash4215]

Is that actually true? I don’t know what that means, but it can’t be good lol

[u/AgsMydude → u/XxtexasxX]

No. It's not. He'd need a monster year to pass Mond

[u/Fun_Succotash4215 → u/XxtexasxX]

Yes its true if reed plays out this season he will have the most passing yards in ag history. Its more a measure of games played at this point honestly

[u/AgsMydude → u/Fun_Succotash4215]

He'd have to have 700 more passing yards and than last season

Not happening this year

[u/channeleaton → u/Fun_Succotash4215]

Doesn't ever feel like it.

[u/Dirty-Ears-Bill → u/Sweet_Baby_Cheesus]

Even worse when you consider that a lot of them have transferred and end up being successful at other programs. Weigman is fresh on the mind after last night

[u/BillyShears2015 → u/Sweet_Baby_Cheesus]

Mond was also pretty mid

[u/wxguy95 → u/BillyShears2015]

He had more time in the NFL than Johnny did. 

[u/Sam_Strake → u/wxguy95]

Not as a starter lol

[u/bigrubberduck → u/wxguy95]

I don't even know if that is true or not - but upvote.

[u/cjcmd → u/Sweet_Baby_Cheesus]

They had a great one, he xferred to OU and won the Heisman.

[u/DealerNo4908 → u/Sweet_Baby_Cheesus]

It’s pretty rare for a any player, let alone a quarterback, to start four years. Mond is an outlier.

[u/Sweet_Baby_Cheesus → u/DealerNo4908]

I'm not saying that we should have more guys start 4 years. I'm saying that 4 of the 14 years were taken up by 1 guy. So the other 10 years have 11 starters

[u/DealerNo4908 → u/Sweet_Baby_Cheesus]

Ah, yeah, makes sense.

[u/tigers113 → u/Sweet_Baby_Cheesus]

Don't worry, he is due for his big game against LSU next week just like every other year. Is mediocre at best except for that LSU game. Which is funny because thats the opposite of Manziel.

[u/isthisMrMace → u/Sweet_Baby_Cheesus]

Kellen mond sucked

[u/Southern_Orange3744 → u/isthisMrMace]

And yet the best you've had at the helm since jff

[u/Sam_Strake → u/Southern_Orange3744]

Pre-Alabama Kyle Allen was above average. There was that one Zach Calzada legacy game. Trevor Knight had good vibes at least.

[u/JoeRedditor5 → u/Sweet_Baby_Cheesus]

I mean we had the same problem most of the last 14 or so years also.

[u/Southern_Orange3744 → u/Sweet_Baby_Cheesus]

You've found plenty , they just all end up transferring

[u/ATXBeermaker → u/Sweet_Baby_Cheesus]

But Reed said he had something special for us this season. I really hope he doesn’t get benched before then.

[u/Adams5thaccount → u/Sweet_Baby_Cheesus]

shoulda stuck with guys whose names include kellen mo

totally unbiased view

[u/turnfourag → u/Sweet_Baby_Cheesus]

*13 quarterbacks.

Hill, Allen, Murray, Hubenak, Knight, Starkel, Mond, King, Calzada, Johnson, Weigman, Henderson, Reed.

Technically Mond didn't start 4 full seasons. He split starts with Starkel in 2017.

I know that doesn't change your point, but it does add one additional QB to your total.

[u/mulligan381 → u/Sweet_Baby_Cheesus]

And how many of them ended making it to the nfl?

[u/Sweet_Baby_Cheesus → u/mulligan381]

3?

Mond, Kyler, and Allen

[u/Sam_Strake → u/Sweet_Baby_Cheesus]

Mond has been cut from practice squads more times than he has pass attempts. I don't think he counts.

[u/Moist-Tart8778 → u/Sweet_Baby_Cheesus]

Kellen mond getting a trophy lol

[u/Sir_Badtard → u/Sweet_Baby_Cheesus]

How many programs consistently have 4 year starting QBs?

[u/Sweet_Baby_Cheesus → u/Sir_Badtard]

That's not my point. We've had 12 QBs in 14 years, and one of them played for 4. So th other 10 years had 11 QBs total

[u/Sir_Badtard → u/Sweet_Baby_Cheesus]

Ahh. I get it now.

[u/Jramey → u/Sweet_Baby_Cheesus]

Thanks for king though, he was great!

[u/Sam_Strake → u/Sweet_Baby_Cheesus]

I don't know what's worse- the fact that we couldn't find a QB better than Kellen Mond 4 seasons in a row, or that Reed makes me miss fucking Kellen Mond. At least he was good for one supernova half against a big team every half-season.

[u/img_tiff → u/Sweet_Baby_Cheesus]

And frankly I never liked Mond

[u/esports_consultant → u/Sweet_Baby_Cheesus]

Trying too hard is one of the most reliable ways to not attain what is desired.

[u/-SHMOHAWK- → u/Sweet_Baby_Cheesus]

We’ve been there… it’ll get better

[u/Wach_hund → u/Sweet_Baby_Cheesus]

Just wanna say I told you guys so

https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/s/cm8xNdicns

[u/Fun_Succotash4215 → u/Wach_hund]

This is a goldmine thank you