r/DeadlockTheGame • u/Axis251 • Feb 24 '26

Discussion A tweet that has me thinking.

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I don’t know if Riot can copy what valve has created with Deadlock. The atmosphere and setting so what I think makes deadlock so enjoyable. Yes the gameplay is amazing and the moba aspects are great but I just don’t think riot will even try to copy valve and make a deadlock clone. What is all y’all’s thoughts.

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u/Warp_spark Billy Feb 24 '26

Its a community meme (in greek meaning), Dota community has a much longer player retention cycle, most LoL players nowadays dont know anything about the history of two games, thats if they know what dota is.
Dota however is not only full of grogs, grogs indocrinate the new players into being like them

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u/Velstrom Apollo Feb 24 '26

Yeah that's the impression I get. It's unfortunate, because instead of friendly rivalry from both sides we have extreme toxicity from one side and complete neutrality from the other side.

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u/Spider_SoWhat Feb 24 '26

Most of the toxicity from the dota side of the community comes from what the creator of league did, who purposely shafted his colleagues for his own personal gain. 

Pendragon shut down dota-allstars.com, which was the center for the original Dota community and development. He replaced the site with a letter and advertisements for League of Legends.

Imagine if someone shut down the deadlock forums, which also contained the official way to download any of the updates corresponding to the game, and replaced it with an ad for his own personal game. That is what the creator of league did, alongside a chain or lawsuits against valve for Dota.

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u/Velstrom Apollo Feb 24 '26

Yes. That was 15 years ago. At some point the level of vitriol no longer matches up with modern reality.

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u/Spider_SoWhat Feb 24 '26

I think the old guard just created a grievance culture that newcomers will just adopt like skinwalkers lol.

I do think the vitriol directed at the creator of league is entirely fair though, especially for the old guards who also would have been directly affected by this.

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u/fiasgoat Feb 24 '26

Yes it does. Because it went beyond that. Riot got Twitch to stifle Dota streams

They were forcing contracts that forbade their players from ever playing/talking about Dota. Maybe even at the organization level but I'm not sure on that part

They tried EVERYTHING they could to kill Dota

Fuck Riot and Pendragon forever idgaf how long ago it was

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u/keaganwill Vyper Feb 25 '26

What honestly has me willing to continue it is the mountain of history about Pendragon being a shit human being in general. Even ignoring anything/everything related to valve/dota, his track record is just abysmal.

Lots of records of him being in league matches, being toxic and full on banning people who he didn't like. Reddit posts on his account just being full blown ass hat, dude is a piece of work and deserves ridicule, the fact that hes successful/well off is a shame.

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u/Yamato_Naoe Wraith Feb 25 '26

funny how the votes proved you completely right lol, these people are caught up in some shit that happened a decade ago and continue to rage on in the most one sided beef of all time. genuinely haven't heard a league player bring up dota in over 5 years

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u/Warp_spark Billy Feb 25 '26

Im gonna deliver shocking news, but unless you talk about Mobas in general, noone mentions the other one.
Its that only times LoL and Dota audiences intersect is when arguing about them, which LoL players mostly cannot do because they have no other reference point.