Fallout 3 or Fallout New Vegas?

[u/red_hot_chilly_leper]

I'm sorry if it was done before, I'm new to the subreddit.

I wonder what you guys think of both games, since they are quite close to each other in many aspects. I'd also like to point out that I haven't played F3 yet, mostly because all the screenshots look so gloomy, but I adore New Vegas with all my heart.

[u/Benjamin_Starscape]

Fallout 3, easily.

It has better writing, it has better gameplay, it has a better worldspace, it has actual visual, tangible consequences, it has consistent lore.

New vegas cannot say any of this.

[u/red_hot_chilly_leper → u/Benjamin_Starscape]

I cannot say anything for or against F3 in this regard, but I say blowing up legion camp with nukes from a dlc and visiting it later to see ghouls in legion armour is quite a consequence, let alone destruction of BoS bunker and so on

[u/Benjamin_Starscape → u/red_hot_chilly_leper]

but I say blowing up legion camp with nukes from a dlc and visiting it later to see ghouls in legion armour is quite a consequence

It's a consequence that exists in dlc, that doesn't even follow in the base game.

I always find this claim rather confusing, because lonesome road shows the epitome of no tangible consequences in new vegas.

Dry wells being nuked changes nothing within the legion. No change in dialogue with caesar, you still get pardoned, etc.

And it's even worse if you nuke the long 15.

Compare this to nuking megaton in fallout 3, you lose karma, the area of megaton gets irradiated, you miss out on shopkeepers, quests, and if you missed it, a bobblehead. You also gain a random encounter of megaton survivors being hostile towards you. And on top of that, with the karma loss, you also gain a bounty with regulators.

Or even a smaller consequence that isn't even related to a quest, killing moriarty. Gob takes over the saloon and even the sign changes from saying "moriarty's saloon" to "gob's saloon" with moriarty's name crossed out.

And that's not getting into tenpenny tower or big trouble in big town or even delivering a violin to an old lady.

Fallout 3 infinitely knocks new vegas out of the water when it comes to tangible consequences.

[u/red_hot_chilly_leper → u/Benjamin_Starscape]

It does follow in the base game - that is, the map of it; always finished Lonesome Road after the base game is over, so I suppose my claim truly is erroneous

[u/Benjamin_Starscape → u/red_hot_chilly_leper]

Nuking dry wells changes nothing within the map of new vegas. Dry wells, the location you visit, is not part of the base game. Nuking the legion doesn't reduce their effeciency.

[u/NiMaGre → u/Benjamin_Starscape]

I mean if we wanna be that pedantic then nuking the I-15 has about as much tangible consequences as nuking Megaton.
Karma loss is the equivalent to losing reputation, it's a video game mechanic to show you did good or bad, and can easily be redeemed by doing basic goody two shoes stuff. Help the NCR in some random quests, give water to the homeless people infront of the towns.
The only shops you lose access to are Moriarty's and the bar near the bomb. Moira survives the bomb and will happily sell you stuff in underworld.
Speaking of Moira, you don't lose access to any quest, besides one unmarked quest, that allows you to sell scrap to the Water Mechanic and repair the valves of the water work. Moira, again, survives and will continue the Wasteland Survival Guide in Underworld. And every other quest that can start in Megaton, you can start elsewhere.
Getting that hit to NCR infamy will spawn the NCR Hitsquads, a group that is hostile to you, if you don't gain some fame with the NCR.
Again, Karma can easily be counteracted because it's a video game mechanic on a linear scale. Just give some water to homeless people and boom. No more regulators. Or no regulators in the first place, because you already had alot of good Karma.
On top of that, nuking the I-15 also causes changes at the Mojave Outpost. If you check the opposite side of the buildings, there will be medical tents with heavily irradiated NCR soldiers.
And besides Daddy Neason beeing disappointed in you and Three Dog making wild claims about you beeing responsible, there are no Dialoug changes.