Hey guys,

I have a kid (5) who I am not sure if gifted but since young showed interest in learning and never really played usual toys for long. He can play toys like ice cream machine and stuffs but that won’t be long lasting. What he is really into is more I would say mentally stimulating stuffs. It’s also kind of weird where once he “masters” something, that thing will be left for dust. 0-100, nothing in between. He’s also quick to learn concepts.

He’s into space (solar system), country maps (at age 4, he could tell me about 160 country by its shape), rubik’s cube, music, puzzles, colours and letters/alphabets. He had some other interest like Geometry Dash along the way.

Space is probably the longest interest he’s had but now he’s into Quasars.

I find it hard to find him peers with the same interest which I sympathise with. He usually shows me and mom his stuffs. Even if he tries to show his cousins, I could see some mismatch there like he’s very enthusiastic about it but cousins will be like “oh yeah cool, GJ3378b.” and ask him to join them on Roblox. I find him interesting though! His cousins/sibling have general kids interest.

I wonder if gifted kids are generally into similar stuffs like that?

Oh yeah and we did hold him back from Roblox due to all the online stuffs we heard but I see it as a potential gateway for him to connect with others better due to it. I’m wondering if I should just allow him to play Roblox?

A little context about me:
- I play chess every day for fun, about 1600 elo and i’ve played a few tournaments without much success
- 3 instruments
- into weird music in general / large rep of music
- Loved math, knew calculus at age 12 or so
- Nerdy with laptops (constantly modding them, working on software, etc etc)
- Speak 4 languages, grew up with 3 and learned english myself
- i don’t do anything in school, just passively listen and get good enough grades but make simple mistakes every so often. Haven’t looked into a single book / homework and haven’t studied for years and i have a 1,9 or so average grade (german)
- into philosophy a lot (Deleuze, Stirner, Guattari, Land, Kant, etc)
- had very good drawing imagination when i was younger (i don’t do it anymore, but i’m still well above avarage in drawing and visualizing 3d spaces)
- 15 yrs
- AD(H)D (Edit: i’m in the process of getting it diagnosed, so i will soon enough have an IQ test)

all this obviously seems textbook „smart“ but i’m heavily convinced that it’s just my interests/hobbies rather than me being actually gifted. I don’t feel like i excel at anything and i just kinda like a lot of things..

I just took an IQ test, and my score was 137. But why do I still feel like a normal person?

I’m Malaysian btw.

Hey everyone, I’m 15 and wanted to share something I’ve been dealing with for the past few months to see if anyone relates.
About 8 months ago, I realized I have constant inner monologues and all these deep, weird thoughts running through my head. I’ve had this for a while, but back then, after talking to some friends and realizing they didn't really experience it the same way, I thought, "Wait, am I actually smart?"
Since then, over the last 8 months, I've taken around 20 online IQ tests—both reputable ones (like Mensa practice tests) and random online ones. Most of them were matrix reasoning tests. My average score is around 115–120, and sometimes higher.
The problem is, I can’t stop doubting myself. My mind keeps jumping all over the place:
Sometimes I think, "What if I'm actually just stupid?"
Sometimes I think, "Maybe I really am gifted (130+)?"
Other times I accept the 115–120 range, but for some reason, that score doesn't satisfy me or give me peace of mind.
When it comes to hobbies or interests, I basically have almost zero. I’ll occasionally get super into something for like two days—for example, I tried learning coding and trading. I had intense hyperfocus for two days, studied non-stop, and then completely lost interest and quit. Other than that, in my free time, I mostly just play video games or talk to AI about all kinds of random topics.
I also talk to AI a lot about my IQ and these thoughts, but deep down I know AI isn't real proof because it usually just tells you what you want to hear and tries to validate you.
In school, I often feel underchallenged—I barely ever have to study and basically just listen in class to get good grades. At the same time, I know that good grades don't automatically mean having a high IQ, which makes me question it even more.

I’m planning to take an actual professional IQ test as soon as I have enough money saved up, just to get a clear answer.
Has anyone else gone through a phase like this? Does anyone relate to this constant self-doubt, hyperfocusing on hobbies briefly, or obsession with scores? Would love to hear your thoughts.

I just stumbled upon this sub, so bear with me. Also if anything i write sounds mean, it's all in good faith i promise.

When i was 11 i was placed into my schools gifted program. I was probably the most talented kid in that program. It was mainly STEM focused, and after a year we started classes meant for students 1,2,3,4 years older than us as we progressed.

The classes went completely fine, but I had a problem. The kids around me were the quintessential movie nerds - rubik's cube, thick glasses, couldn't hold a conversation, no interest in sports etc. I felt out of place, socially. My parents are also working class, and that was also out of place for that specific group of kids (most had doctors, engineers etc. as parents).

So i stopped going. I managed to hide it from my parents for almost 5 months, and by that time we were finishing up from elementary school and going to high school so there wasn't much to do about it. My parents were very upset, like i said working class and they thought i had squandered my only opportunity for success ever.

Now for what it cost me:

I went through a completely normal high school life, lots of sports, social things, parties and really enjoying my time. Now that i was taking regular classes i was literally getting straight A's with almost no effort. I spent almost no time on school, and got to focus on playing soccer and video games.

After high school I started law school. During the first year i landed a pretty nice internship, and kept my grades very well. After my first year i applied to med school, and since then i've attended both simultaneously. I will say my grades in law school took a little drop for a while, just for transparency's sake.

long story short i traded my gifted spot, and my identity as a smart kid for a life i truly enjoy living.

EDIT: I'm in europe, and have been made aware the terms elementary and high school were conflated. To be clear, we do 1st to 7th grade as elementary, then 8-10 as what i assume is high school in america, then 11-13th grade as college (or maybe that's high school?) -> then proceed to university. Hope that makes sense.

Although my dreams are incredibly grand, I hate them intensely.

There's a very short story I want you to hear.

A year and a half ago, I almost ended my life for the first time. My problems had piled up, and all I wanted was to find peace by any means possible. There was a razor blade in front of me, and I grabbed it. I was terrified.

But my mind wanted to have one last conversation with me, to understand the source of all this pain. I kept replaying everything that had happened until I realized that the main reason was people and how they looked at me, as if I were a failure, short, ugly, and stupid. If I had died then, I wouldn't have been able to get revenge on them.

My dreams have become so grand that failing to achieve them would be a devastating loss for me, even though I don't want to pursue them.

But today, for the first time, I genuinely wished for death. I thought about how much peace I would finally feel if I died, but I don't know...

In my noble question to find a suitable female partner to sexually reproduce with (not asexually as humans don’t do that) I came upon many challenges.

Obviously someone like myself has no problem getting these fine ladies to the dinner table, but I found that our conversations were… lacking.

When I tried to bring up Quantum logarithmic resonance theory and its implications for the retroactive acceleration of global entropy, I would get stared at as if I had said something impossible to grasp.

So I let them speak about their foolish and trivial daily lives, resulting in intense boredom.

Is there any way I can find a partner to place my genitals inside of their genitals until I ejaculate without lowering myself to mingling with simpletons?

‘Wait a minute who are you’

What is intelligence anyway? Stripping away the conventional consensus like IQ scores , multiple intelligence theories.

I wanted to understand and discuss the views on this from the ‘gifted’ community.

Isn’t intelligence too hard to define, number of variables involved subjectivity etc ? Coz if i go by IQ Test then Messi wouldn’t be gifted nor would Ozil but in my opinion they are gifted .

If I think of ‘Multiple intelligence’ like you have IQ for different areas of cognitive abilities, the current IQ test WAIS or whatever captures a small sub set of this .

Also wouldn’t whatever test that I administer give a normal distribution on a sample size large enough . So aren’t we basically in case of FSIQ score is intelligence or giftedness (130 score) curve fitting?

Curious to hear your thoughts on this.

I was identified as gifted at a young age and eventually dropped out of the program.

I'm 24 now, and life has taken some interesting turns since then. I'm currently in the middle of med school, as well as almost finishing up law school.

Academically, I've done pretty well, although I've also had my fair share of setbacks, periods of underperformance, and questions about what I actually want to do with my life.

Looking back, I think being labeled gifted at a young age shaped my relationship with intelligence, ambition, achievement, and failure in many ways. Dropping out, and dropping the label of a smart person was one of the best things i did in my life. It was in so many ways freeing.

Happy to answer questions about education, motivation, burnout, social life, expectations, or anything else.

AMA!

I don't really know how to explain it, but whenever I talk about my mindset with most of my classmates, they don't understand me at all. I have a "I'll work as hard as I can, and I'll never give in to peer pressure and popularity" kind of mindset and everyone thinks I'm strange.

Sometimes, I'll outline something/how to solve a problem and people will be so confused about how I figured it out, but I don't know how to explain that it's intuitive.

I hate coming off like an arrogant braggart so I'll often downplay my own intelligence. I get upset when people don't understand that I'm disappointed when I don't do as well as I hoped to do (94 instead of at least a 97, etc). I don't think I'm better than anyone, but I've been told that I seen as pretentious or a know-it-all.

I have no interest and am heavily uncomfortable with the idea of taking drugs, alcohol, or vaping and it feels strange because a lot of my classmates either are excited to drink alcohol, or some vape.

I also have auDHD and anxiety (officially tested) and I can't even find other neurodivergent people who feel the same, which makes me feel even worse.

Just a rant, I guess. I want someone to understand how I feel and feel the same way.

(32M) I have stopped drinking alcohol. For the last 16 years, I spent my weekends getting drunk and socializing in that way; I have now been sober for a month. Right now, the sense of loneliness is extreme, though I’ve been told this is normal when you stop drinking. The first time I went out for a drink (a non-alcoholic one), I realized that the focus is no longer the drink itself, but the person or people sitting across from me. Previously, I could tolerate people who I now find unbearable—"friends" with passive-aggressive behaviors, for example.

The problem, as I mentioned, is this feeling of loneliness. I’m told it’s normal at the beginning and that I should make new friends through activities I enjoy. But the things I enjoy—daydreaming, searching for useless facts online (such as which mattress brand holds a "Royal Warrant"), playing online poker, and walking a set urban route that starts and ends at my home—are all quite solitary activities. I also enjoy reading and listening to J. Krishnamurti and Nisargadatta; these, too, are deeply solitary pursuits, though they certainly help me understand and accept things. There are other activities I might enjoy—such as playing an instrument, painting, learning a language, dancing, or stargazing—but I lack the time, especially since I work almost every day, play poker, and am about to start studying for medical school. Furthermore, I can’t really imagine doing these things alone—well, perhaps learning a language, though I’m not sure how much that actually leads to making friends. My goal is to have a well-paid and rewarding professional career by the time I turn 40, that It seems that Will be a gift from me to my future me that I Will thanksgiving.

About a year and a half or two years ago, I joined an online group for gifted individuals in my area. I met up with them twice in person and had many online conversations; the social dynamics were identical to those of a high school classroom—even though I was one of the youngest people there. For me, it was an interesting exercise in observation, but—without meaning to be offensive—every single one of them was quite shallow, possessing only a limited amount of curiosity, and none seemed willing to explore anything beyond their own foundational beliefs.

As I mentioned, the social dynamics were painfully mediocre; people would constantly pat each other on the back and form little subgroups, much like teenagers. I felt ostracized—even more than I might have felt among random people in other settings. Perhaps this was because I had hoped to find peers, common ground, friends, or even a potential romantic partner. Instead, I encountered people who were mediocre—intensely mediocre, in fact—which is far worse than mere mediocrity.

Yesterday, I bought the book How to Win Friends and Influence People, after seeing it recommended on Quora some time ago by someone who is "profoundly gifted." I’ve already listened to the audiobook version, but now I intend to read it properly. Beyond that, however, I have no idea how to make friends outside of my usual environment (bars, alcohol, and parties) I didn't make Friends neither on parties, but It mitigates loneliness, I even had an incompatible girlfriend from there Who teach me that I would no got a compatible girlfriend from that world.

On Reddit, people have suggested places that, quite frankly, don’t appeal to me—such as church or AA meetings. Should I perhaps simply accept my solitude as a "highly gifted" individual and resign myself to socializing only at work, in bars, or at parties—albeit without drinking—while accepting that I will likely never find meaningful connections or a compatible romantic partner?

In short: I no longer seek refuge in alcohol, but now, the loneliness has become heartbreaking.

Gifted women has this been your experience?

Gifted men, how about you, have you noticed a difference between your non-gifted male coworkers, and/or noticed differences between how coworkers treat you versus highly intelligent women?

I'm a 19-year-old male, a fourth-year med student in a six-year program. I'm exhausted, honestly. I don't know where to begin... I'm tired. Don't mind me if my thoughts aren't arranged. I'm just gonna write as they pop into my head. Since I was seven or eight, even before I knew what a soliloquy was, I'd always find myself at the back of our house talking to myself, and it's been like that ever since. I'm not to blame; nobody understands me at all. Nobody gets how my head works. Everybody's just so superficial, and it's suffocating.

It's tiring. I set these very high goals for myself, like publishing a scientific research paper, getting started on a paper I've had on my mind for the longest time on "feminism and it's inevitability," bagging a distinction in my academics, and reading other books outside my academics because I love reading books about scientists, like their biographies and contributions (e.g., Madame Curie). And then I self-destruct when I don't achieve these goals.

I'm struggling with self-doubt, imposter syndrome, and depression. Once, I spent the weekend in my dorm room, on my bed, and only got up to get snacks to eat. I was so mentally exhausted that I couldn't cook or bathe (and naturally, I don't like being filthy). There was no buildup to this; I'd been OK prior, studying and reviewing papers so I could contribute my quota to a group research project, and then, boom, I missed a class on Friday and felt bad about it. Just like that, I'm on the bed hating myself, binging on series to get doses of dopamine, wasting money on data because the moment an episode ends, I'm reminded of my failures.

I go to bed thinking about wars, genocide, cancer, global warming, climate change, women in Afghanistan, rape, and what I can do to help. Should I start reading topics related to these cases so that I can prevent another flash flood or something? I go to bed thinking about the fact that someone somewhere is getting murdered and I can't help it. Crazy, I know.

I go online and see a person younger than me inventing an iron that's solar-powered to prevent carbon pollution, since most people in her city are still using charcoal irons, and I feel left behind. I know it's something I'm capable of doing, but I won't start. All I do is get the wildest ideas, and the moment I see some kind of limitation, I crumble and just "fuvk it all."

I've been doomscrolling on Insta for two days now, and I'm tired... I'm just putting off my responsibilities, but it's easier... At least for a second or two, I get to forget that I have books to read, academic and in my personal library; I get to forget that I have a paper in mind to get to.😭😭

It's hard, and there's no one I can talk to. And my antisocial behavior and the fact that I'm bad at sustaining friendships don't help matters. I don't like superficial relationships or friendships. I crave a deep connection with people who understand what I'm...

I'm kinda cooked, ngl. I was bullied in school; I was among the most intelligent in school, the youngest, and short.

Why they bullied me exactly, I have no idea. Thanks to them, I developed an inferiority complex, hate social gatherings, can't initiate conversations, can't take compliments, and can't sustain friendships (probably my fault), because I want to talk to you about feelings, emotions, social constructs, global warming, scientists, and what makes them so different from the average person. And, well, you want to talk about classmates. I could try to do that just so I won't be the only person without a friend, but for how long?

I just want to stop doomscrolling and get my life back. I want to have friends who actually understand and resonate with me; please DM if you do. I want to stop pretending to be fine. I want to be actually fine.

I've seen this analogy pop up in all corners of gifted circles (phrasing?). Had me curious. Rarely see such convergence on analogies.

Where did you first see this analogy? (if relevant)