Here he is defending Mike Tyson after he was convicted of rape. Saying that he should serve a shorter sentence because he makes loads of money that he could give to rape victims. And also basically saying it wasn't rape because she was basically asking for it.
Here he is just after his former spiritual adviser and Texas mega church pastor plead guilty to raping a 12 year old girl. "They're good people, they have a good reputation"
Here's the video of that interview for full context of what she was actually saying, she never indicated she enjoyed it and she said "I think most people think rape is sexy".
Apparently raped his Ex wife (which she later softened after a settlement) and she died in 2022 from falling down the stairs š and now the mother of his children is buried on his golf course without a headstone, which is now overgrown.
Maria Farmer, one of the first to come out as an Epstein victim who claims Ivana Trump used to hang out with Maxwell all the time (just as Trump hung around with Epstein) and go to schools to get young girls phone numbers.
She also talks about a time Trump came in to Epstein's office building at 9 at night, was staring at her legs when Epstein comes in and says "that one's not for you" they giggled and he said that "his one was in a different room".
According to Trump's ex staffer Miles Taylor Trump was always talking extremely inappropriately about Ivanka...
"Aides said he talked about Ivanka Trumpās breasts, her backside, and what it might be like to have sex with her, remarks that once led [former Chief of Staff] John Kelly to remind the president that Ivanka was his daughter,ā Taylor, who served as a Department of Homeland Security chief of staff under Trump, wrote in his book."
Ivanka giving a tour of her childhood bedroom and while describing her bed seems to have what looks like a ptsd flashback.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R6FZ5kj3FGo
About 30 seconds in.
Here's him talking about his daughter Tiffany as a baby, when asked about which parts of each of her parents, he instantly says she's got Marla's legs and states that he doesn't know yet about her breasts (with a gesture).
Think about father's you know that talk about their kids like that...
ā¢ Next, he owned beauty pageants of which some were child's beauty pageants (WEIRD) and he brags, on tape that he walks in on them whilst they're changing...
THIS ALONE WOULD BE ENOUGH FOR MOST PEOPLE TO CONSIDER SOMEONE A PEDOPHILE.
Here he is perving at UNDERAGE girls and A LOT more under the guise of being a judge for miss teen universe. One of the girls celebrates when they say Trump isn't there today and the rest knowingly laugh. One of them says he'd slowly look them all up and down and she felt like she was being checked out by a perv in a bar.
The rapper 'Uncle Luke' said that he had to leave a party at Mar-a-lago because the girls looked potentially underage, there was sex and he thought he was going to get extorted. He says most of the girls are from Trump's pageants.
Here he is inviting a underage girl on stage who he's continously comparing her to another '17 or 18' underage girl that he hired on his plane purely based on her beauty, saying it's like an alcoholic having booze around them.
Of course there's loads of pictures with Epstein and Ghislaine the "Terrific guy" who "likes them young" and "I wish her well" to Ghislaine after she'd been convicted and of course went on his plane 7 times.
Trump had never said a single kind thing about any of the triple digit victims (that we know about) of Epstein and Maxwell.
In 2004, when Lindsay Lohan was 18, Trump was 58, he talks about having seen a close up of her chest and says that "she's probably deeply troubled and therefore great in bed".
Please bare in mind the following that Trump said on Howard Stern in 2006;
"No, no, I have no age - I mean I have an age --- I don't want to be like Congressmen Foley, with, you know, 12 year olds"
Katie Johnson (pseudonym), was 13 year old (at the time) who alleges Trump and Epstein raped her 4 times, before Epstein was arrested the second time and he wasn't in the news (so unlikely she was just piggybacking from the media), she said she was intimidated and withdrew it. Just about the same time Trump's fixers were paying off Stormy Daniels for no reason apparently LOL apparently he was a little intimidating with her too, blocking her exit after she went to the bathroom.
If you listen to Katie, she says that he made her wear a blonde wig because she looked like Ivanka. When she says "what do I do if I get pregnant?" He replies "Get a fucking abortion" whilst throwing money at her.
Trump once sued Bill Maher for joking he was the offspring of his motherās affair with an Orangutan. He produced his birth certificate to disprove it. He has never sued his 13 year old accusers lawyer for extortion or defamation.
Michael Wolff, who admittedly isn't the most reliable source (due to a few discrepancies about quotes in the past) claims to have 100s of hours of Epstein talking about Trump (which he provides a clip of), how scared he was of him and talking about the FBI (under the control of Bill Barr, Trump's lackey at the time) taking pictures that he'd seen of Trump in Palm Beach with topless underage girls sitting on his lap, very similar to what Prince Andrew was accused of but apparently Trump had a very suspicious stain...
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-jeffrey-epstein-audio-michael-wolff-b2639595.html
Epstein called Trump "his closest friend" in those tapes.
Here's alleged Epstein and Trump victim and ex girlfriend of Epstein saying that Trump and Epstein were "best friends" that Trump groped her all over in front of Epstein in broad daylight in his office, she also claims that Epstein admits this to Michael Wolff on those hundreds of hours of tapes he has of Epstein, she was polygraphed and passed.
Recently released from the Epstein files (as of Jan 2026) a postcard from Epstein says "Our president also shares our love of young nubile girls. When a young beauty walked by he loved to "grab snatch"".
The Wallstreet Journal released a birthday note from Trump to Epstein for Epstein's 50th birthday;
"The article described a letter that appeared to be from Mr. Trump in a 2003 birthday album compiled for Mr. Epstein. The letter, which had a drawing of a naked girl on it with Mr. Trumpās signature below her waist, alluding to pubic hair, the article said.
āHappy Birthday ā and may every day be another wonderful secret,ā the note read."
Then he suggests, just after an extremely shady and secretive meeting with Ghislaine Maxwell (who was possibly the source of the note) that it might exist 'but somebody else wrote it and forged his signature' for... reasons?
Trump was in office when Epstein died under highly suspicious circumstances and the cameras just happened to be turned off. It's almost like someone with loads of power didn't want him sharing any secrets....
Have you seen the 'Epstein: Filthy Rich' documentary on Netflix? The filthy fuck had hidden cameras all over his properties so he has dirt on all his friends. It also covers how suspicious Epstein's 'suicide' was.
āI think that the evidence points to homicide rather than suicide,ā said Dr. Baden, whoĀ observedĀ the autopsy done by city officials.
Dr. Baden, a former New York City medical examiner and a Fox News contributor, added, āIāve not seen in 50 years where that occurred in a suicidal hanging case.ā
Here's an undercover journalist catching the DOJ deputy chief on hidden camera admitting that they're going to wipe all Republicans from the Epstein files and leave the democrats in.
Trump's secretary of labour in his first term was Alex Acosta, this is the same man that gave Epstein his 'sweetheart' plea deal in 2008, letting him get away with just an 18 month sentence and only charging him with soliciting sex from girls as young as 14.
He resigned in 2019 over his handling of the case after Epstein had been arrested again.
Here's Epstein being asked if he had a relationship with Trump to which he says yes and then when asked if he's been with Trump and any underage women he pleads the fifth.
Please bare in mind the following that Trump said on Howard Stern in 2006;
"No, no, I have no age - I mean I have an age --- I don't want to be like Congressmen Foley, with, you know, 12 year olds"
Katie Johnson (pseudonym), was 13 year old (at the time) who alleges Trump and Epstein raped her 4 times, before Epstein was arrested the second time and he wasn't in the news (so unlikely she was just piggybacking from the media), she said she was intimidated and withdrew it. Just about the same time Trump's fixers were paying off Stormy Daniels for no reason apparently LOL apparently he was a little intimidating with her too, blocking her exit after she went to the bathroom.
If you listen to Katie, she says that he made her wear a blonde wig because she looked like Ivanka. When she says "what do I do if I get pregnant?" He replies "Get a fucking abortion" whilst throwing money at her.
Trump once sued Bill Maher for joking he was the offspring of his motherās affair with an Orangutan. He produced his birth certificate to disprove it. He has never sued his 13 year old accusers lawyer for extortion or defamation.
Michael Wolff, who admittedly isn't the most reliable source (due to a few discrepancies about quotes in the past) claims to have 100s of hours of Epstein talking about Trump (which he provides a clip of), how scared he was of him and talking about the FBI (under the control of Bill Barr, Trump's lackey at the time) taking pictures that he'd seen of Trump in Palm Beach with topless underage girls sitting on his lap, very similar to what Prince Andrew was accused of but apparently Trump had a very suspicious stain...
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-jeffrey-epstein-audio-michael-wolff-b2639595.html
Epstein called Trump "his closest friend" in those tapes.
Here's alleged Epstein and Trump victim and ex girlfriend of Epstein saying that Trump and Epstein were "best friends" that Trump groped her all over in front of Epstein in broad daylight in his office, she also claims that Epstein admits this to Michael Wolff on those hundreds of hours of tapes he has of Epstein, she was polygraphed and passed.
Epstein file accusing 2 brothers of child rape 4 years before anyone else did publically who have now been convicted of it also accuse Bill Clinton and Trump of raping them in orgies.
The Wallstreet Journal released a birthday note from Trump to Epstein for Epstein's 50th birthday;
"The article described a letter that appeared to be from Mr. Trump in a 2003 birthday album compiled for Mr. Epstein. The letter, which had a drawing of a naked girl on it with Mr. Trumpās signature below her waist, alluding to pubic hair, the article said.
āHappy Birthday ā and may every day be another wonderful secret,ā the note read."
Then he suggests, just after an extremely shady and secretive meeting with Ghislaine Maxwell (who was possibly the source of the note) that it might exist 'but somebody else wrote it and forged his signature' for... reasons?
Trump was in office when Epstein died under highly suspicious circumstances and the cameras just happened to be turned off. It's almost like someone with loads of power didn't want him sharing any secrets....
Have you seen the 'Epstein: Filthy Rich' documentary on Netflix? The filthy fuck had hidden cameras all over his properties so he has dirt on all his friends. It also covers how suspicious Epstein's 'suicide' was.
āI think that the evidence points to homicide rather than suicide,ā said Dr. Baden, whoĀ observedĀ the autopsy done by city officials.
Dr. Baden, a former New York City medical examiner and a Fox News contributor, added, āIāve not seen in 50 years where that occurred in a suicidal hanging case.ā
Here's an undercover journalist catching the DOJ deputy chief on hidden camera admitting that they're going to wipe all Republicans from the Epstein files and leave the democrats in.
Trump's secretary of labour in his first term was Alex Acosta, this is the same man that gave Epstein his 'sweetheart' plea deal in 2008, letting him get away with just an 18 month sentence and only charging him with soliciting sex from girls as young as 14.
He resigned in 2019 over his handling of the case after Epstein had been arrested again.
Here's Epstein being asked if he had a relationship with Trump to which he says yes and then when asked if he's been with Trump and any underage women he pleads the fifth.
Then on Lex Fridman's podcast gets asked again and then proceeds to instantly jump to the defensive "I was never on his island" when he didn't bring up him being involved or the island. He's such a bad liar.
Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tennessee):Ā āSo, will you work with me on this issue so we know who worked with Jeffrey Epstein in building these sex trafficking rings?
Kash Patel, FBI director nominee:Ā āAbsolutely senator.ā
February 2025
Dan Bongino
āPlease do not let that story go. Keep your eye on this.ā
āWhoās on those tapes?ā
āWhoās in those black books? Why have they been hiding it?ā
Pam Bondi
"The Epstein client list is on my desk right now ready for review."
Feb. 27, 2025
Journalist Piers Morgan:Ā āDo you think that by releasing information from these files we are likely to see criminal actions being taken?ā
Alina Habba, counsel to the president:Ā āAbsolutely. I think it would be negligent for us not to. You have to hold individuals who are indeed rapists, accountable. We have to have them tried, in my opinion.ā
March 1, 2025:
Fox News host Mark Levin:Ā āSo once all thatās gathered youāre just going to put it out in the public, with the obvious necessary redactions ā¦ but for the perpetrators I assume that weāll see those names, yes?
Bondi:Ā āWell, certainly, nothing can be withheld on that.
March 3, 2025:
Bondi, to Fox News host Sean Hannity:Ā āA truckload of evidence arrived. Itās now in the possession of the FBI. [FBI Director] Kash [Patel] is going to get me and himself really a detailed report as to why all these documents and evidence had been withheld.ā
March 11, 2025
Habba, to media personality Benny Johnson:Ā āI personally have checked in. They are going through it. You have to be patient. Because when you are wanting to prosecute and actually do something with the information that you have, you have to make sure that you save the integrity of the investigation so that we can bring these people to justice, so that we can hold grand juries, so that we can do certain things.ā
March 25, 2025
Habba, interim U.S. attorney for New Jersey, to Johnson:Ā āYou have to make sure also we bring valid cases ā¦ Those people that were crossing state lines and trafficking those girls or having sex with minors will be prosecuted.ā
May 28, 2025
Patel to Fox News host Bret Baier:Ā āIām not going to withhold information from the American public, ever. ā¦ We are diligently working on that, and it takes time to go through years of investigations, years of political maneuvering, and years of cover-up.ā
June 6, 2025
Rogan:Ā āThe narrative has always been that thereās video. Now, whereās the chain of custody? Is there evidence that thereās video? Is there evidence that it was moved around? Stored? Protected from people looking at it?ā
Patel:Ā āYouāre going to get all that information. Like, thatās literally what weāre putting together. And weāre going to give you every single thing we have and can. And thatās the whole point. ā¦ Now weāre figuring out how to put it out.ā
There's a lot more on this video from Rogan, which is VERY cagey, VERY suspicious and VERY inconsistent.
Here's Trump desperately trying to defend Pam Bondi and to discredit the Epstein files even though Epstein previously pled guilty to soliciting prostitution from someone who is under 18 years old, served 18 months in prison and Ghislaine Maxwell had been sentenced to 20 years for assisting and sometimes participating in pedophilia and despite all of those quotes I just gave you of all of those people with access to the files saying they are genuine.
Now apparently there is a list but 'it's fake' and the democrats made it.... if the democrats made it to incriminate Trump and his cronies, why didn't they release it?
When asked if he's name is on the Epstein list, he tries to downplay how much he knows "very short briefing" and then goes on to accuse Hillary ect (already covered how dumb that is) and NEVER ANSWERS THE QUESTION.
He also says that Pam Bondi is going to release anything credible, I thought there wasn't anything to release š¤·š»āāļø
What's more you should focus of Obama's clearly made up 'coup' distraction or Bill Clinton, who, apparently wrote the list, that he didn't release for no reason and incriminates himself š¤
Do you see how stupid he thinks his cult are?
Oh and that he apparently š 'doesn't know anything about' the private meeting with Ghislaine Maxwell and the deputy DOJ Todd Blanche (Trump's former attorney) other than it's happening, despite this being possibly the biggest threat to his popularity ever and there's no way they'd have took this step without his permission because, as you can see, he's got them to all unanimously vote to block the release of the Epstein files multiple times and even started the House recess weeks early to avoid a forced vote on it.
A meeting which saw Ghislaine (who's completely untrustworthy and has already purgered herself twice) and suddenly Trump has apparently a list of a hundred, obviously completely unsubstantiated names from a chinese whisper chain of liars. A list of "100" names he's done nothing about since.
After this meeting Ghislaine praises Trump as being a gentlemen whilst he put her in a minimum security prison (not procedure whatsoever for sex offenders).
Now when asked about when Epstein and him fell out, he admits that he had an underage girl and Epstein victim 'stolen' from him, Virginia Guiffre who was working in his spa.
When the Epstein survivors gathered outside the Capitol building to show their disgust at Trump covering up the Epstein files, Trump ordered military jets to fly over to both intimidate and drown them out under the guise of it being to commemorate Polish soldier (even though he was playing golf when 4 US soldiers (suckers and losers allegedly) were returned dead from Latvia earlier this year)
Here's Pam Bondi doing the usual attack on the person asking the question "Did you find any of the pictures with Donald Trump and half naked girls with Epstein". She DOES NOT DENY IT. Clearly doesn't want to lie under oath.
Democrats then leaked 3 emails between Ghislaine and Epstein talking about Trump.
As well as Epstein and Wolfe talking about Trump, crafting an answer for of he's asked about their association.
"Sex offender Jeffrey Epstein referred to Donald Trump as the "dog that hasn't barked" and told his former companion Ghislaine Maxwell that an alleged victim had "spent hours at my house" with Trump, according to email correspondence released Wednesday by Democrats on the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.
"I want you to realize that that dog that hasn't barked is trump," Epstein wrote in a typo-riddled message to Maxwell in April 2011. "[Victim] spent hours at my house with him ,, he has never once been mentioned."
"I have been thinking about that ... " Maxwell replied."
The emails also suggested that Epstein and Trump spent thanksgiving together in 2017 despite having 'falling out' around a decade earlier (even though the Trump administration can't get their story straight on that). There is no direct evidence of this but it seems likely they were both in Palm Beach and there was a private party with no guest list available.
After speaker Mike Johnson was going to finally be forced to release the Epstein after purposefully delaying democratic Senator Grijalva for 7 WEEKS. The longest delay in history.
Oh and by the way remember Bondi was Trump's second choice AG as Matt Gaetz, his first choice dropped out rather than be exposed as pedophile and also because that would prevent him getting the votes.
A US House Ethics Committee's report into Matt Gaetz has found"substantial evidence"
he paid for sex with a 17-year-old girl and used illicit drugs while in office
After the release of just a few of the files it was discovered that Epstein apparently wrote a suicide note to another inmate saying Trump "shared love of young girls".
The newly released tranche of Epstein files by the Department of Justice (DOJ) mentions a woman saying that Donald Trump once watched her uncle kill her newborn and dump the body into the river. Her claim appears in an FBI document. The woman, who has not been named, says she was 13 at the time. As per the document, the woman said, "[Trump] participated regularly in paying money to force me to [redacted] with him and he was present when my uncle murdered my newborn child and disposed of the body in Lake Michigan."
Trump's limosine driver in the 90s said that ue hear him talking to "Jeffrey" on the phone about "abusing some girl" and her "suicide" which he believes is a cover up and therefore murder.
"The Department of Justice is refusing to hand over redacted information from investigative files connected to Jeffrey Epstein, despite an order from a federal judge to either release the documents or explain why they were withheld."
"https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/s/vDpgCrBcjl
Trump apparently invited multiple 14 year old girls to Mar-a-lago with Epstein present and attempted to serve them alcohol, one of the girls likely had her drink spiked. Allegedly at the party yet again Jeffrey Epstein called Trump his best friend.
Itās all still up for me, nothing deleted. Way too much to screenshot. If you come back please let me know if itās still showing [deleted] on your end.
You mean apart from all the accusations and repeated clear pedophilic behaviour whilst hanging around with his "best friend" the most prolific pedophile in the US for 15 years and and desperately attempting to keep the files hidden?
What would convince you?
Do you need Trump's DOJ to launch an investigation against him instead of being told which petty enemy he wants to unleash them on next?
Trump had made a comment in a speech once that he intended to defend women "whether they wanted it or not". shudder.. All I could think when I heard that was that if he ever tried to "defend" me I would defend myself, violently, from him. Whatever it took. I need a shower just thinking about that comment...
I do not think it is far fetched to assume that when a list exists with contents clearing or damning someone of their actions and that list is in the possession of the accused and they really want to hide what the list says about them, it is reasonable to assume the guilty option. Its like catching someone breaking into evidence room to clear their case and getting caught. Evidence does not exist (to the public) precisely because they are blocking it.
Man is getting PR hits on the daily by not releasing it. If it cleared him, releasing it would be a no brainer and a big win for republicans in the eyes of the public.
There are so many other comments here trying to explain something very simple and obvious to you, and you have not managed to do anything beyond saying the same comment over and over again, not addressing anything anyone is saying and engaging in the good old ''So what you are saying <insert something completely opposite of what is being stated'' as a form of disingenious argumentation.
I am not so ambitious to think that I could succeed in where so many have apparently failed, the longer I try to explain it the more stupid I feel for even trying.
Here you go! And in case you need a guide for the worst ones (Trump is mentioned over 38,000 times so I can see why you may be overwhelmed), here is an easy guide:
I know, right? These fucking libtards trying to make Trump look bad. He's a hero. It's all bullshit. What about Hunter Biden's laptop? Hilary's emails. Benghazi. Pizzagate. Everyone on Jan. 6th was a patriot. We know who the real pedophiles are. /s
You're an idiot.
I would say that in its entirety but the only problem is that my account already has fallen into hot water before for speaking out against republican tyranny.
But if I must get a point across then I will die
Besides I would rather die standing than leave kneeling
TDS is know, worldwide, as a very severe mental disorder that ALL Q-TrumpliKKKans have, 24/7: "Dear Leader Trump is ALWAYS right! Dear Leader Trump is the ONLY person we get our 'facts,' and, 'truth,' from. Dear Leader Trump is NEVER to be questioned!"
People just taking it on blind faith that this birthday card is authentic.
People ignoring that Epstein explicitly stated Trump didnāt partake in the āmassagesā with underage girls when repeatedly questioned about it. This despite a clear and utter hatred for Trump as expressed in his many rants about how much he hated Trump.
People ignoring that Bidenās DOJ had the unredacted access to every single Epstein file and they didnāt pursue ANY charges against Trump related to Epstein, which letās be clear, they definitely would have done if they had any sort of remotely damning evidence.
I think people have to be legitimately stupid at this point to believe Trump is personally implicated beyond his name being mentioned a gazillion times in emails and text messages to and from Epstein.
Queue the cope brigade of morons who think a court order sealing documents from the public means the fucking Department of Justice canāt look at them š
Bro .. you're just out here spittng lies like saying that the birthday card is inauthentic, when it came directly from Epstien's estate and was turned over to the house oversight committee, and had been seen by justice department officials as far back as 2003
The only person denying it's not real is Trump, who kept changing the reason it wasn't real, including that he "didn't draw pictures" which was also shown to be a lie because he has auctioned off many sketches of his own over a long period of time.
You're either getting paid to write this stuff, or you're a moron
Yes yes. The birthday card with no chain of custody for 30 years is totally legit and was definitely written by Donald Trump. It had his signature and everything š
You're confusing the absence of criminal charges with proof that there's nothing suspicious to investigate. Those are two entirely different things.
The birthday card: If the card is authentic, that establishes that Trump sent or signed itānot that it proves a crime. But dismissing it as fake without evidence is just as irrational as treating it as definitive proof of criminal conduct. Verify it; don't just assume. Make him testify under oath before Congress. Clinton did. Fair is fair, right?
Epstein's statements: Even if Epstein said Trump didn't participate in certain massages, that doesn't establish that Trump knew nothing about Epstein's activities or had no other relevant connections. A statement about one specific activity isn't a blanket exoneration. And Epstein's personal hatred of Trump doesn't automatically make every statement he made truthful or complete.
The DOJ argument: The fact that the Biden administration didn't charge Trump doesn't prove that no incriminating evidence existed. Prosecutors have to establish that admissible evidence meets the legal standard for a charge and conviction. No charge is not the same thing as a judicial finding of innocence. If you want to argue the DOJ reviewed everything and found nothing, provide evidence for that specific claim.
The sealed documents: Nobody needs to argue that a court order sealing documents necessarily prevents the DOJ from accessing them. That's a straw man. The actual questions are which records investigators could access, what they reviewed, and what conclusions the evidence supported.
And nobody should claim Trump's name appearing in Epstein's records proves he committed a crime, either. But your argument cuts both ways: a name appearing doesn't establish guilt, and the absence of charges doesn't establish that every suspicion is baseless.
Apply the same evidentiary standard in both directions. Don't turn the lack of a prosecution into proof of exoneration while demanding that everyone else prove every detail beyond doubt before you're willing to examine it.
Your comment is even more hilarious in the vacuum of ad nauseam Trump is a pedophile claims in this thread.
As you said, they didnāt have enough evidence to seek credible charges against Trump. There was absolutely nothing that limited the Biden DOJ from looking into any and all Trump/Epstein claims and everyone with above a room temperature IQ knows that they were looking into anything and everything they could charge him with to disqualify him from running for office.
The birthday card is unverifiable. Itās pointless to discuss. According to people who believe it to be authentic it didnāt have a chain of custody for 30+ years. Itās just a waste of time to discuss something that canāt ever be proven as authentic imo.
Epsteinās statements directly exonerate Trump from the claim every moronic barking seal in here is making. That Trump is a pedophile who raped kids. You are rational enough to know how ridiculous the standard of your peers is so you are instead trying to backpedal into some semantical, but how much did he know argument despite the fact that Donald Trump cut him out of his life in the lead up to his first public charges being filed in Florida.
Bidenās DOJ had unredacted access and were free to pursue any and all investigative angles to seek charges against Trump. The notion that they didnāt seek out damning information that Trump raped kids is just willfully stupid thinking. They definitely didnāt take it on blind faith that the ārapist, white shpremacist, sexist, fascist, threat to democracyā was innocent of any wrongdoing. Why are you finding the unbelievable so believable?
That is definitely an argument that is routinely employed by the left, even in this very post that is a popular dodge to the question of why if there is so much evidence against Trump (according to leftists) did the Biden DOJ sit on it and do nothing with it. The answer is and always was that they didnāt pursue charges because they lacked the evidence to do so.
The TLDR of your post is that you know they didnāt have enough evidence to charge Trump when the DNC had access and control over all these documents but now you think it makes sense to launch exhaustive investigations into it to insinuate Trump raped kids despite their being fuck all evidence to support that conclusion in the first place.
Itās like an even more bad faith Russian collusion smear because the very people making the claim insinuating his guilt saw the very files that showed there wasnāt any evidence to support the claim lol.
You keep presenting your assumptions as established facts while accusing everyone else of bad faith.
The birthday letter: You can dispute its authenticity, but calling it āunverifiableā doesn't automatically make it fake or make discussion pointless. The page came from a birthday book obtained from Epsteinās estate through a congressional subpoena. Its authenticity has been disputed, and Iām not claiming it independently proves a crime. But you don't get to settle a contested question simply by declaring it impossible to resolve. "PolitiFact's reporting" (https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/sep/09/epstein-letter-trump-signature-congress/) explains the evidence and the dispute.
Epstein's statements: Even if Epstein denied that Trump participated in a particular form of abuse, that would not automatically establish that every allegation, every question about Trump's knowledge, or every aspect of their association was false. A denial concerning one allegation is not a blanket exoneration. Nor am I claiming that association alone proves criminal conduct.
The Biden DOJ: You're treating the absence of charges as proof that investigators examined every relevant lead, conclusively disproved every allegation, and found nothing worth pursuing. That's an assumption, not a demonstrated fact. Prosecutors need admissible evidence sufficient to prove a specific crime beyond a reasonable doubt. Not bringing charges means they didn't bring charges; it does not establish a universal finding of innocence regarding every conceivable allegation. If you have documented evidence that investigators pursued every relevant lead and conclusively resolved every question, present it.
Your central argument: You're attacking a stronger claim than the one I'm making. There's a difference between declaring Trump guilty without sufficient evidence and saying that his association with Epstein, the available records, and questions about what people knew deserve scrutiny. I don't need to assert that Trump raped children to reject your reasoning.
And let's be clear: I'm not claiming that a disputed letter or an association proves Trump committed a crime. I'm saying that a lack of charges isn't proof that every question has been answered, and that neither speculation nor partisan assumptions should substitute for evidence. That standard should apply regardless of political party.
If you want to discuss specific evidence honestly, I'm willing to do that. But repeating āno charges, therefore nothing to investigateā doesn't make your conclusion a fact. Trump should testify before Congress at the very least. The fact that you don't want this, proves you're not interested in uncovering the truth. Prove me wrong.
This is probably my final response. If you continue to engage in bad faith and gaslighting by misrepresenting my position or repeating assumptions as established facts instead of engaging with the actual argument, I will not engage further.
You're trying to talk like you understand the legal system, but it fails for anyone who actually has a clue how any of it really works.
1) A chain of custody is only established for a piece of evidence once it is discovered, not from the moment that item springs into existence into the world. There wouldn't be a "chain of custody" for 30 years for that birthday card because it wasn't entered into the legal system until a few years ago. It was only when it was discovered and identified as a piece of potential evidence that a "chain of custody" could be established. And all that does is prove that nobody tampered with it once it was identified as potential evidence and entered into the system. It doesn't magically make it definitive proof one way or the other. That's what testing and further investigation is for.
2) We get it. You're desperate to cling to this one statement from a dead man that Trump did not partake in "massages", and that must automatically exonerate him from all charges for all of eternity. You want this one statement to wipe out all the other statements from all the other people who claim to have witnessed otherwise, or have been his actual victims. We get it. The real justice system (and not this farce we have under this current administration) doesn't work that way. The real justice system looks at ALL the evidence, and not just one man's statement to wipe away everything else.
3) The DOJ was investigating. And they were working on pulling together enough information to see if they had enough evidence to file charges. Did you really miss how far the GOP went to get Trump back on the ballot, illegally, and make sure he got elected again? A sitting president cannot have charges filed against him. That's a gift from the GOP from Trump's first rodeo. Extreme measures were taken to help Trump avoid those very charges. I suggest you go read Section 3 of the 14th Amendment closely. And remember that Trump was found liable for his role in Jan 6th, but again, thanks to GOP shenanigans, charges couldn't be filed on that one, either. The SCOTUS, stacked by, oh look at that, the right, completely inverted the wording of that very clear section of that Amendment in order to allow Trump back on a ballot that he should never have seen again. That was just the beginning of how he avoided those charges. None of this is a secret, you just need to be willing to look at things for yourself.
4) If you don't understand how sealed documents work, then you can't call it a dodge. Again. They didn't "sit on it and do nothing". There was a ton of criticism for taking too long with the investigations and allowing Trump to still be free without charges too close to election time. If you missed the outrage that happened for over a year about that, that's on you. That tells me you soent far too much time burrowed into your right wing safe spaces, because that criticism was everywhere, not just from the US left, but also all over international news. The only way to avoid it was to stick to American right wing news sources. And an awful lot of right wingers did just that. Investigations happened. Charges were highly likely. And the ball got dropped because the Biden DOJ was too slow and allowed that right wing corruption I spoke of earlier to get Trump out of trouble.
Why else do you think your party would spend 4 years mocking a president for his age, and then get someone elected who would be even older before his term was up?
And since you brought this one up, lol, the "Russian collusion" was proven to exist. It was simply decided that it didn't have enough of an effect to change the outcome of the election. You really need to catch up on the real world news and come up for air out of your right wing safe spaces once in a while.
which let's be clear, they definitely would have done
Says who? The myth of the bigly lawfare against Trump? It's very easy to argue that thr Biden administration and DOJ assumed Republicans were being sincere after Jan. 6th that Trump had disqualified himself from office.
So you think the Biden DOJ covered up evidence that the āwhite supremacist, sexist, rapist, 34 time felon, threat to democracyā raped kids?
I want to see you type it out, say you think the DNC helped put Trump back in office by hiding evidence he raped kids. Surely you donāt believe such nonsenseā¦ rightā¦ š
Or, and hear me out, the BIden DOJ thought the fascists had overplayed themselves and wanted to continue prosecution as it would have normally gone through...
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u/RabidLobster42 8d ago
The secret is Trump and Epstein raped and trafficked children for years.