r/Music • u/TheMirrorUS šŸ“°The Mirror US • Sep 14 '26

article Robert Kraft issues lengthy statement on Macklemore after rapper says NFL owner had him banned from

https://www.themirror.com/sport/american-football/robert-kraft-macklemore-sheeran-palestine-2024272
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u/Irish_Whiskey Sep 14 '26

In a statement provided to theĀ Mirror US Sports, Kraft expressed sympathy for Palestinians who are suffering "real" lossesĀ while even calling for a sit-down conversation with Macklemore.Ā 

...okay, that's also what Macklemore said. So what exactly did he say that involves "Jewish hate"?

Also seems pretty pathetic to call for a "sit down conversation" after you blocked an entire tour and then called all the other stadium owners to demand they block him as well.

You're open to a 'sit down conversation', as long as you first silence him?

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u/greenline_chi Sep 14 '26

Stadiums who let Kanye headline wonā€™t let Macklemore be the openerā€¦.

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u/boot2skull Sep 14 '26

Kanye literally supported Nazi ideology. Macklemore as far as I can read said free Palestine?

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u/SpyderSquash Sep 15 '26

He also specified that criticism of Israel is not criticism of our Jewish brothers and sisters, and promoted a message of peace and unity across the board. It was a very well-articulated, professional and kind speech tbh. I haven't seen the dude in the public eye in a long time, but this was a nice thing to see from him.

https://youtu.be/GslWD7ZcipY

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u/SideInitial3961 Sep 15 '26

He's 100% right. None of my jewish friend support the Israeli genocide.

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u/whatlineisitanyway Sep 15 '26

It shouldn't be controversial. Take all the people that scream anti-semitism at this and describe to them a Muslim state that is doing all the things that Israel is doing and I'm sure they would be outraged and be calling for intervention.

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u/FeloniousDrunk101 Sep 15 '26

I believe the only controversy is heavily manufactured by pro-Israeli propaganda.

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u/Zeal_of_Zebras 29d ago

And it massively backfired because Robert Kraft looks very pro genocide right now.

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u/Soft_Self_6797 Sep 16 '26

Bingo. That's entirely what it is. They no one likes being labeled as such so they thought everyone would just blindly follow without looking into any nuance.

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u/LurkLiggler 27d ago

Itā€™s a genocide and horrible. And shouldnā€™t be controversial. Of course, who knows if you change the direction of the violence. At least with how these comments would be. You donā€™t see much hand wringing and concern over the other active genocides on the planet.

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u/OrganSlicer Sep 16 '26

Jew here. I am appalled at what's going on and given what happened to our people 80 years ago, it's bewildering to see a people get wiped out by the nation that was created from the ashes of this tragedy. It's beyond belief like how does Isreal not see the mirror?

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u/SideInitial3961 Sep 16 '26

I think your words sum up how most are feeling right now. I feel for you. I can't imagine how I would be feeling right trading places with you.

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u/apistograma Sep 15 '26

Nobody says that they support a genocide other than the ones that are clueless about optics like Ben Gvir. If you ask Netanyahu he'll say he's against genocides.

The issue is whether they support Israel existing or not. If they support it, they're supporting a genocide.

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u/SideInitial3961 Sep 15 '26

They do. But their concept of Israel existing does not match any of the reality of Israel today. They all seem to have fond memories of Israel it seems, family, culture, but none of them support what Israel has become AFAIK. I can't speak for them but that's the vibe I get.

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u/Spiritual_Appeal_961 Sep 15 '26

Itā€™s the message of peace and unity articulated in such an intelligent, compassionate and genuine way that is the real problem. Thatā€™s what got Bob Marley nearly assassinated during the Cold War, they even tried to get his music classified as sedition. Macklemore is no Bob ok but the intention and similarities canā€™t be ignored. Wouldnā€™t be surprised if this got him on the CIA watch list just like Bob was.

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u/playlistpro Sep 15 '26

That was good. When he said this next song is called...I was hoping for "Fuck Donald Trump"

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u/corpusjuris Sep 17 '26

Dude gets dragged for being lame but heā€™s always been vocal and articulate about what he believes in even when it costs him, and what he believes in has always been admirable (gay marriage, anti-war, pro Palestine, even local issues supporting musicians and venues). Iā€™m a lifelong Seattleite, punkrock deadbeat, wannabe hipster type and Iā€™ve always defended the dude. Heā€™s good people.

Also the video for ā€œThe Townā€ is amazing and makes me tear up every time. The Source of Labor and RKCNDY shoutouts, my youth, man.

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u/Amazing_Scientist696 Sep 17 '26

I have 0 fucks to give about Macklemore and I have never enjoyed his music.

That said, 100% behind him and the music industry on this one. I hope all the "Industry Gods" get the fuck out of their bubble and say something too. Not like Marshall is going to loose shit by making a similar statement.

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u/Moist_Syrup_2772 Sep 15 '26

Iā€™m trying to recall the last time I heard an anti-Semite talk about his Jewish brothers and sisters.

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u/freelancephilosophy Sep 15 '26

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u/Upper_Raspberry1 Sep 15 '26

He apologized for this

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u/gupdaddy Sep 15 '26

And his apology was bs "unfortunately at the time I did not foresee the costume to be viewed in such regard"

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u/daidrian Sep 15 '26

What about that is bs? Seems like admitting to ignorance. I could be missing something though

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u/ItAintLongButItsThin Sep 14 '26

He also brought attention to the horrors that have been happening and thats a big no no.

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u/Ok_Instance7667 Sep 15 '26

"If a genocide happens and nobody is there to witness it, does it count?"

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u/palmerry Sep 15 '26

(giant Sequoia slams to the ground)

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u/TheDryIceFactory Sep 15 '26

As long as you did Nazi it

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u/bloody_ell 29d ago

"If a genocide happens and you kill or silence all witnesses and censor it out of the history books, it's still genocide"

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u/Fupastank Sep 14 '26

Nazi ideology helps drive home the propaganda that ā€œIsrael is the only safe placeā€. So thatā€™s ok in the Hasbara play book.

Saying free Palestine is the real crux of the issue. They dont want that.

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u/Jazzlike_Finish123 Sep 14 '26

This. Ā One makes them sympathetic and the other makes them the aggressor.

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u/Dependent_Eye_6361 Sep 15 '26

That's exactly it. Kanye provides not just a fundraising opportunity for Israeli pacs, but also a clear and present danger that can be pointed to for why moving to and investing in Israel is the only safe thing. Macklemore saying Free Palestine just exposes Ed Sheeran's 12-year-old fanbase to things like empathy and understanding, and people like Robert Kraft can't have that.

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u/burnetrosehip Sep 16 '26

I guess Mackelmore's added "free Cuba" and calling ICE a terrorist organisation put him firmly on a place on the political map in the US. Respect to the guy, is all I'll say.

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u/MostHolyAndCromulant Sep 15 '26

That and Israel is allowed to openly run an Ethno-supremacist apartheid state, and all the Nazi's really love that idea.

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u/MoneyTalks45 Sep 15 '26

If you support Nazi ideology, youā€™re a Nazi. We need to stop pussyfooting around it.

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u/Kaldricus Sep 15 '26

That's my favorite* bit of Republicans support of Israel. A non-insignificant number of them love Nazi's and/or believe the Holocaust didn't happen. These are diametrically opposed views, and yet....

*Favorite meaning would be funny if everything wasn't so fucked up

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u/Gonnagetbant Sep 16 '26

Because itā€™s never been about antisemitism, itā€™s always been about protecting Bibi

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u/donkeyrocket Sep 14 '26

Kayne still prints cash and has an extremely rabid fanbase that doesn't care about his mental health issues or Nazism. Not saying it's right but being an abhorrent person is less controversial than offending Israel. And right now acknowledging the existence of Palestine seems more offensive than the ideology behind the near genocide of their people.

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u/Enlightened_D Sep 15 '26

Donā€™t forget his website where he sold tshirts with giant swastika on them

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u/YoungAntiSocialite Sep 15 '26

Kanyeā€™s the whole bill, macklemores an opener, easier target.

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u/toggiz_the_elder Sep 15 '26

The founders of Israel didnā€™t say never again to genocide. They said never again to us.

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u/Kellyco5 Sep 15 '26

What is free Palestine? If that entails dissolving the the Jewish state for the Palestinians, then it has no place at a music concert where it should be inclusive for all. A lot of dumb people who say free Palestine, thatā€™s what they mean

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u/boot2skull Sep 15 '26

Seems unfair to put words in anyoneā€™s mouth without letting them clarify. Why not let Macklemore clarify his stance before cancelling him

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u/carrboneous Sep 15 '26

Multiple Israeli public officials have quoted Hitler publicly no less

Do you have some examples?

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u/carrboneous Sep 16 '26

You're making it sound like they're quoting Nazis approvingly, but in at least most of those examples they were quoting them in a critical sense. You're also making it sound like the comments were received positively, when by your own accounts they were not.

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u/zaxxman Sep 15 '26

Tbf Kanye is basically a clown these days and I donā€™t think anyone takes him seriously but saying free Palestine is a real topic with weight. I obviously donā€™t agree with Kraft but I donā€™t expect sane people to say the things coming out of Kanyeā€™s mouth

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u/HeadintheSand69 Sep 15 '26

Cause no one gives a shit about 'jews', they care about a shitty government that probably has video of them fucking kids. Shrimple as

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u/TheLegendinho Sep 15 '26

And Kanye didn't even make thrift store! /s

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u/magistrate101 Sep 15 '26

Yeah but Ye was somehow smart enough to include a clause in his contract forbidding anyone from dropping him over the things he said/says.

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u/GTS_84 Sep 15 '26

Exactly. The Fascists have solidarity with each other, and solidarity against the victims of their fascism.

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u/no_com_ment Sep 16 '26

Tbf, a lot of that nasty ideology is popular in Israel. Just look at what Smotrich and Ben Gvir say.

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u/Mucking_Fountain Sep 16 '26

Kanye is a Republican, though. They donā€™t actually care about anything, as long as itā€™s from their side. Owning the Libs is their only MO for living.

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u/mavs91 29d ago

Tells you all you need to know. It was never really about antisemitism. All that bs antisemitism campaign ads they ran during the Super Bowl was just cover for Israel.šŸ‡®šŸ‡±

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u/vestigialtrumpet Sep 14 '26

Very astute. Shows you what theyā€™re really afraid of and it ainā€™t ā€˜antisemitismā€™.

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u/4DPeterPan Sep 14 '26

Thatā€™s pretty much the same conclusion I came to after a very bland and quick research into whatā€™s going on with this whole thing.

ā€œMacklemore wants to stand up for truth & love.

Kraft wants to deny that from happeningā€.

Now that Kraft is getting backlash for his actions and noticed the public is against him; heā€™s trying to save his face.

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u/Mu_forlife Sep 15 '26

They love to say ā€œitā€™s complicatedā€ but it really not.

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u/4DPeterPan Sep 15 '26

Sometimes things really are complicated. But in this case? Yeah I agree with you. Itā€™s not complicated at all, you stand up for whatā€™s right no matter what it costs you.

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u/gawtcha Sep 15 '26

Don't forget that it is Robert 'Handjob' Kraft. We know what love he likes.

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u/WildWhisperArdor Sep 15 '26

To be fair, Kanye also went on an apology tour, met with Rabbis and kissed the wall.

Plus, I think itā€™s generally understood that Kanye was mentally unwell

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u/go3dprintyourself Sep 14 '26

Strangely Kanye can still perform across Europe and the world

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u/Plastic-Contest547 Sep 15 '26

Banned from UK and Australia

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u/cabalus Sep 15 '26

And Russia

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u/FamousWorth Sep 16 '26

And Italy, Poland, France, Switzerland, Brazil and South Korea. Not entirely banned from Brazil, South Korea or Russia, but cancelled events due to political backlash

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u/koziello Sep 15 '26

Well, that checks out, they do constantly nag about the rotten West in their propaganda pieces

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u/go3dprintyourself Sep 15 '26

Still plays across Europe which is ironic lol

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u/bloody_ell 29d ago

Will get jailed if he plays in Germany and comes out with any pro-Nazi stuff.

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u/Dinovius Sep 15 '26

Kanye west didnā€™t say anything so bad or crazy

He just said he was a Nazi, but calling for the stoppage of bombing if children

Thats a bridge too far!

/s

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u/pea_I_parker Sep 15 '26

Willfully ignorant or stupid? What timeline do you think this is. Kraft who is Jewish has way more qualms with Kanye after what he said. Timelines matter as in being in reality. Jfc

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u/Christron Sep 15 '26 edited Sep 15 '26

Not many stadiums are having Kanye perform these days I don't get why people keep bringing him up. He only played in Gillette once and not as the headliner in 06...

Esopillar34 brought up a good point for Tampa stadium hosting Kanye this year and refusing Macklemore

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u/greenline_chi Sep 15 '26

Idk - he just played two nights in Chicago, I know he played in Tampa and is going to Dallas off the top of my head

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u/esopillar34 Sep 15 '26

Iā€™ve seen it a lot with Raymond James, since they made such a big deal about Kanye, and it being public

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u/Christron Sep 15 '26

Okay that's fair good point.

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u/More_Hold_5522 Sep 15 '26

Because Kanye is Maga.

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u/Spunge14 Sep 15 '26

Comparing their star power is crazy work. You think there's no difference between shutting down Kanye West vs. the guy who did "Thrift Shop" that one time?

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u/greenline_chi Sep 15 '26

Thatā€™s what Iā€™m saying - Kanye has way more influence but had the green light. Macklemore is an opener

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u/Spunge14 Sep 15 '26

Whoops responded to the wrong comment

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u/Conscious-Foot-1225 Sep 16 '26

Kanye show was amazing

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u/Dry-Fill-8343 Sep 16 '26

Itā€™s more profitable to promote hatred and division. Theyā€™re terrified of us uniting

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u/Tasty-Guess-9376 Sep 17 '26

Corporations have never Had a problem with right wing extremism.

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u/HungryCurrency8481 Sep 15 '26

It was never about stopping hatred towards Jews, it was always about fuelling hatred towards Arabs.Ā 

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u/wip30ut Sep 14 '26

it's because Kanye is a joke, a nut-job that no one takes seriously. But Kraft & other top supporters of Israel realize that Macklemore is far more dangerous. The tide is shifting in the West on support for Israel, especially as memories of the Holocaust fade. Artists like Macklemore can galvanize the under-40 demo to the point where sanctions against Israel may be enacted in the upcoming years. This is especially true if Israel decides to ethnically cleanse zones in Gaza or the West Bank.

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u/DaveInDigital Sep 15 '26

speaking as a patriot fan, this is exactly who he is. he'll ruthlessly acquire all leverage and then pull this "i'm just a sweet old man wanting to find common ground that works for everybody" act. he's a shark. made a a whole ass documentary series burning Belichick and then claimed not to know how it would be cut - as the executive producer. guy has a team of lawyers to make sure he's always at advantage, even got a judge to destroy evidence of him getting a handy from a sex trafficker immigrant in a massage parlor, but somehow he was also bamboozled like everybody else? full of shit. apparently his son is even worse so that's great.

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u/Pinky_Herman Sep 16 '26

How can you be a Patriots fan after this?

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u/DaveInDigital 29d ago

most NFL fans don't like their owners, tbf šŸ˜…

imo teams should be community owned like the Packers but the NFL banned it ages ago so owners can keep their finances private and they're more likely to find like minds in other billionaires.

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u/Pinky_Herman 28d ago

Than most fan a morally corrupt i guess.

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u/KombuchaBot Sep 17 '26

Preventing someone from having a platform to talk and then saying you just want dialogue is an obvious bad faith move

This shit used to work, but it's looking pretty threadbare now

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u/imsomeonessunflower Sep 16 '26

Yep, my mind went straight to the pats too... but the degenerate population of patriots fan alone would never stand up or sit out to take a stance on this... so there will be no change... i just went to the savanna bananas there last month.. i wont be going back to Gillette.

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u/Pinky_Herman 29d ago

I like the degenerate comment.

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u/MoneyManx10 Sep 14 '26

Macklemore checkmated him by going to the media and giving a sincere statement. Now Kraft has to pretend to care about Palestinians after going to the extreme length of banning a singer for voicing his opinion on Palestinians.

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u/BoreJam Sep 15 '26

I'm not even sure why it ever got to this. Macklemore has been a vocal supporter of Palestine for years. So the fact that simply saying "free palestine" has blown up into this mess makes no sense. He wrote a protest song in support of the student protests way back when the current saga of the Israel/Palestine kicked off.

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u/abearirl Sep 15 '26

It's a classic "grumpy, checked out old man finally notices a thing he doesn't like and massively overreacts". Kraft probably didn't even know who Macklemore was until someone sent him a video

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u/TheBaconThief Sep 15 '26

Kraft is a big AIPAC donor and has given to friends of the IDF. He was much more directed in his agenda.Ā 

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u/larrylevan Sep 15 '26

Also, friend of Epstienā€™s! I wouldnā€™t be surprised if Mossad has kompromat on him

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u/red1284 Sep 15 '26

Lmao he isn't some innocent grumpy old man.

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u/KombuchaBot Sep 17 '26

He probably couldn't believe anyone would have the balls to criticise Israel in one of his stadiums

The old omerta ain't holding, people are talking freely and he can't have that

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u/myassholealt Sep 15 '26

Billionaires are operating with impunity in a way we've never seen before. Yes they've always had their hand on the puppet strings, but they were more comfortable doing it behind the scenes. With Trump in office, as long as you're in with him you are untouchable. So doing something like banning an artist because you want to normal. What's more surprising is he felt the need to release a statement about it. It's not going to hurt his bottom line. It wasn't necessary for him to say anything, except maybe ego reasons.

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u/PPLavagna Sep 15 '26

No, to him it was necessary. Heā€™s a true believer and is going to follow whatever Israel does no matter what.

Religion is a weird thing. Even with people who arenā€™t religious, thereā€™s a brand loyalty that still runs deep

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u/Moist_Syrup_2772 Sep 15 '26

Macklemore addressed this. Itā€™s cause he has ed sheerans platform now. Or he did

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u/PPLavagna Sep 15 '26

He wrote it way back in B.C days? Thatā€™s old school yo.

I know what you mean, couldnā€™t help but make a joke

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u/a-stack-of-masks Sep 15 '26

Kraft's handlers told him to go ban a wokie. Kraft doesn't recognise integrity when it's pissing in his eyes so he handled it badly and is trying to save face.

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u/PunchMonkey01 Sep 17 '26

It's because Pink made a big deal about his comment and brought more attention to it.Ā 

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u/Frewdy1 Sep 14 '26

Itā€™s the same with a lot of guys in power. Take all the game pieces and then act surprised when no one wants to play. Hell, itā€™s just like Israel. ā€œWe forced you all into a smaller and smaller area while killing your women and children, why donā€™t you want to just talk?ā€

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u/anujbeatles Sep 15 '26

100% right

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u/DrDankDankDank Sep 14 '26

When he says sit down he means sit down and shut up.

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u/russtripledub Sep 15 '26

Those sit down discussions always involve some kind of coercion. Afterwards the person being admonished always has to apologise to that group of people, even if they werenā€™t wrong

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u/El_Cactus_Loco Sep 15 '26

ā€œshut up and dribbleā€

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u/sxuthsi Sep 17 '26

Not surprised to see this mentality from a team owner in the National Football League, majority of them are weirdos

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u/KombuchaBot Sep 17 '26

Yeah, his idea of the conversation he wants is "I talk and you listen"

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u/still-dinner-ice Sep 14 '26

Here's what Macklemore said:

To all of my Jewish brothers and sisters: criticism of Israel, criticism of apartheid, being against genocide in no way is a criticism of you,ā€ he told the crowd.

ā€œMy message is for peace; love for all human beings to be treated with dignity, respect, and equality. So I say free Palestine, I say free Lebanon, I say free Cuba, I say free Congo, free Sudan, free all people in America living in fear of this terrorist organization, ICE. None of us will be free until we are all free.

I guess that's hate speech, now. Words no longer have meaning.

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u/Olive_Jane Sep 15 '26

I just saw a clip where he said something that's not included in your transcript. Was he doing this at every show he's been on with Ed Sheeran? Or is there a single incident that the drama is centered on?

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u/SouldiesButGoodies84 Sep 14 '26

'Real losses'? What are we talking, the Pats losing games en route to the playoffs? TF!

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u/SouldiesButGoodies84 Sep 14 '26

Thank you!! His language is dismissive AF.

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u/The_Goondocks Sep 14 '26

As long as no cameras around

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u/LazloHollifeld Sep 14 '26

I think they take umbrage with him calling it a genocide, but I donā€™t see them calling out the actions of Israel only Hamas or people who dare to speak out in defense of Palestinians.

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u/TerriblyRare Sep 14 '26

Kanye performed at multiple stadiums already and he has a few more scheduled later in the year, they do not give a fuck

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u/Irish_Whiskey Sep 14 '26

I think they take umbrage with him calling it a genocide

They don't like when you call it genocide, and they don't like when you say "free Palestine" because that gets in the way of the genocide.

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u/roll20sucks Sep 15 '26

"free Palestine"

woah woah woah! Those words are very hurtful to a lot of people Ed has spoken with!

/s

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u/VerseChorusWumbo Sep 15 '26 edited Sep 15 '26

But it is a genocide. Kraft brought up all of the countries that have labeled Hamas as a terrorist organization but conveniently left out all the countries (including an independent commission by the UN) that determined Israelā€™s actions in Palestine constitute a genocide. What a clown.

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u/IAmSquilliam Sep 14 '26

Bibi called him up and opened the giant 3" binder worth of blackmail.

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u/SuKitTrebk Sep 15 '26

Because Kanye, love him or hate him makes enough money to ignore it and chalk it up to mental health. Macklemore unfortunately doesnā€™t have that kind of pull so itā€™s easy to punish and make an example of him because itā€™s not going to really hurt their bottom line ā€¦ or so they think..

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u/Common_Vagrant Sep 15 '26

Meanwhile at the Kia center they let the white surpremacist fight because ā€œthey believe in the first amendmentā€. GTFOH

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u/greenknight884 Sep 15 '26

Macklemore: "...criticism of apartheid, being against genocide, in no way is a criticism of you. My message is for peace, love for all human beings to be treated with dignity, respect, and equality."

Kraft: "Jewish hate!"

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u/Morgannin09 Sep 14 '26

Yeah the kind of conversation where you shut up and I talk shit.

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u/TheBrownWelsh Sep 14 '26

You're open to a 'sit down conversation', as long as you first silence him?

The conversation would literally just be Kraft saying "Promise you won't say anything controversial and we'll let you into the stadiums." That's it, that's the whole conversation he's likely speaking of.

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u/mattfoleyattheriver Sep 17 '26

Did you see the character he dressed up as on stage?

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u/pixepoke2 28d ago

Itā€™s fair to call him out on that event. Itā€™s also fair to provide background on what happened in 2014, look at his actions before and after to decide if you want to give him the benefit of the doubt or not:

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/may/20/macklemore-adl-antisemitism-row-costume

Everything Iā€™ve seen of what he says and more importantly does, says heā€™s been consistent about advocating against harmful bias and oppression. Heā€™s been consistent about calling out genocides in Sudan, Congo and other places. Same with calling out actions by the US govt here in our own country.

Itā€™s being brought up now as means to undermine the message, which should tell you a lot about the people on the side of genocide.

I donā€™t always agree with himā€” his stance about not voting in 2024 was part of a movement that helped bring Trump to power again. His takes can be a little reductionist and simplistic. But heā€™s on the right goddamn side of history

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u/KombuchaBot Sep 17 '26

"Dialogue means what I tell it to mean"

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u/Intrepid_Cap1242 Sep 15 '26

Not only was it not antisemetic, but he also featured jewish people protesting with him in the video, to show solidarity

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u/Sefwon1506 Sep 15 '26

No Jew hate see here

This is him

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u/pixepoke2 28d ago

The Amish rockstar?

Look, putting aside his consistent point that criticism of Israel is not antisemitic, his consistent advocacy against harmful bias and oppression everywhere (homophobia, oligarchy, exploitation), his self reflection on privilege and advocacy against white supremacy. And transparency about his struggles with addiction before and after this particular event, what exactly does this picture do or say in this instance?

Does bringing up this picture from 2014, where a public outcry was raised, where he apologized, change any truth of the words he said: Israel is committing genocide. Israel does not equal the whole of Judaism. Others are committing genocide in other places. Others are being oppressed. This is bad

Or have you instead noticed the effort to discredit any messenger, in order to take focus off and discredit the message?

Thereā€™s context for that photo. People should look it up. They can decide to give or not give benefit of the doubt.

I give that benefit based on his actions both before and after. Itā€™s reasonable not to give that benefit.

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u/Aggravating_Bat3618 Sep 14 '26

Itā€™s called rhetoric. Aka the language politicians speak.Ā 

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u/OptimalMembership927 Sep 14 '26

Bro Mack take the sit down, take that shit and rake that shit

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u/Onespokeovertheline Sep 14 '26

By a sit-down conversation he means, "have a seat, son, and let me tell you the way it is..."

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u/---Pockets--- Sep 15 '26

Livestream the sitdown

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u/Organic_Rough4433 Sep 15 '26

Isn't this collusion an anti trust case?

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u/CatsPlusTats Sep 15 '26

Open to a sit down conversation means fallout was more than he expected so he's doing damage control.Ā 

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u/krucz36 Sep 15 '26

several publicly owned stadiums, too

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u/3amIdeas Sep 15 '26

Kraft is on the Epstein list. What else do we need to know about this person?

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u/DiscoRabbittTV Sep 15 '26

He didnā€™t. This is bullshit

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u/RecycledMatrix Sep 15 '26

Standing in the way of expansionist Israel is antisemitic to people who weaponize the term.

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u/mastah-yoda Sep 15 '26

Well of course. How else would you establish fascism?

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u/M3wlion Sep 15 '26

kraft has direct ties to Israel this has nothing to do with anti-Semitism

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u/MechRxn Sep 16 '26

You do realize Macklemore has in the past come out and said antisemitic things and dressed in anti semitic costumes right?

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u/CrittyJJones Sep 16 '26

Macklemore even made a point to make certain that his grievance was with Israel not Jews.

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u/Bazishere Sep 16 '26

Kraft is maybe concerned that people may boycott the New England Patriots team; they should. Why fund a genocide supporter? He issued that to contain damage to his businesses. He is used to operating in the shadows.

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u/Giver_Thegoo Sep 16 '26

I hear heā€™s changing the logo of his team too.

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u/Herbert2727 Sep 16 '26

Macklemore is a good man standing up for the downtrodden and courageous to do that knowing the money and power thatā€™s opposing his message. Kraft is just another example of big money pushing people around. His offer for a sit down rings hallow, as hallow as the man who issued it.

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u/Herbert2727 Sep 16 '26

Sorry for the typo. Hollow not hallow.

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u/SitarHero68 Sep 16 '26

The ā€œsit-down conversationā€ heā€™s talking about:
https://giphy.com/gifs/PoEDR7inS9qHUb1PHE

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u/TOAD4000 Sep 16 '26

Exactly, sit down and shut up.

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u/Hungry-Coffee-8890 Sep 17 '26

Heā€™s open to a sit-down because it fucking backfired and heā€™s now trying to save face publicly. The guy couldnā€™t give a shit about Macklemore

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u/Charming_Cicada_7757 Sep 17 '26

This was the most insane thing about it

Letā€™s have a conversation after Iā€™ve already silenced you from the public square

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u/Ordinary-Chemist9430 Sep 17 '26

i don't agree with all the accusations against macklemore, but he is highly controversial in germany as well. and it's important to understand that concerts probably aren't being cancelled because of one single statement he made. the criticism is based on a series of very questionable statements and incidents over time, particularly regarding israel, the israeli-palestinian conflict, and even comparisons involving the shoa.

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u/Irish_Whiskey Sep 17 '26 edited Sep 17 '26

It's so strange then that whenever people jump forward to accuse people who are critical of the government of Israel of history of clear anti-Semitism, that the examples are left vague and undefined.

For example, I know in 2014 Macklemore apologized for performing in a costume that was a stereotype. The reason I know this happened, is because everyone defending Israel in these threads is posting that picture and that point from 12 years ago over and over again.

You'd think if he had a long history of very questionable incidents over time, I'd have heard more about it. Ah well, I'm sure you can fill me in.

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u/Ordinary-Chemist9430 Sep 17 '26 edited Sep 17 '26

Certainly: https://www.butenunbinnen.de/nachrichten/interview-deichbtand-macklemore-antisemitismus-100.html

While i dont give fuck about sheeran or macklemore and while i differentiate between israelian government and people (who btw elected these right winger war criminals) i also do not understand the slightest why its hard to condemn the terrorists from hamas and october 7th

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u/OnaholeReviews 27d ago

My guess is the thing they used to ā€œjustifyā€ removing Macklemore from the tour is that he exposed thousands of young children to war imagery on the video screens without a content or trigger warning. But I also read that his contract gave him full creative control of his show though. Guess we will see which one gets their insurance claim for lost income/revenue.

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u/sjo75 26d ago

Itā€™s outrageous that a group of billionaires own these stadiums can silence what they choose! This is the real story. Ed Sheeran bending shouldnā€™t be the case - this is about shady collusion back room deals to deny a political view. These billionaires support what ever allows them to abuse their power and laws

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u/sokonek04 Sep 15 '26

Just to be clear Macklemore has done some legit antisemitism, like coming out on stage in a fucking antisemitic costume.

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