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u/JohnnySack999 Average CETME enjoyer 8d ago
Do you want to be part of the firing squad? Just send HEGSEC to the 555-555555 to know more!
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u/ficiek 8d ago
They could make this a business, people would pay a lot of money to legally execute a guy with a gun.
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u/Cultural_Blueberry70 8d ago
They absolutely will. And maybe Polymarket will sponsor the event? Bet on how far away the pieces of his head land, or if he will cry before the execution.
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u/throwawayjonesIV 8d ago
We might as well combine it in with a UFC fighter vs chimp cage match to make it a truly somber, stately event
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u/Cultural_Blueberry70 8d ago
Don't give them any ideas, next they are going to make the guy in the wheelchair fight a methed up gorilla as a death penalty.
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u/EugeneStonersPotShop 8d ago
Don’t forget to add some motocross riders doing jumps through a bunch of Red,White, and Blue fireworks right next to the machine gun firing range/demonstration area.
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u/ForgedIronMadeIt 8d ago
I say this as a firearms enthusiast myself, but a lot of gun owners are just desperate to have a chance to kill someone. The way so many of them talk about it is just deeply unsettling. I'd certainly use one of my guns to defend myself or others but holy shit these people lust for death.
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u/FrozenGiraffes Dry 8d ago
the main times I've had a desire for one its near someone I know is potentially a danger to me and people I know, and even then as a last resort, not a GTA moment.
There's also my grandpa who was alive in dustbowl conditions and helped feed his family by hunting, thats actually valid.
A lot of these people feel like they want COD IRL without the actually getting shot back.. so a firing squad. If they allow "experimental" guns it could get far worse
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u/AsterStarchaser 8d ago
I went to a CCW class several years ago, and since it's a small town several other guys I knew were also there. From that day on, one in particular would always greet me with some variant of "How many guys have you gotten to shoot lately?"
Who the fuck starts a conversation like that??
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u/JohnnySack999 Average CETME enjoyer 8d ago
Yeah, the price depends on the skin color tho, the whiter, the more expensive
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u/darkslide3000 8d ago
We've reached the point where I can no longer tell if that's some official new Space Force uniform or someone photoshopped him into a campy 90s sci-fi dystopia uniform for shits and giggles.
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u/ficiek 8d ago
Context hat, context shirt.
edit: what the fuck
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u/1116574 8d ago
For others:
Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth said Thursday the firing squad execution of convicted Fort Hood shooter former Army Maj. Nidal Hasan will be open to the public, a new revelation to the first U.S. military execution in more than six decades.
Hasan, a former Army psychiatrist who opened fire at Fort Hood in Texas in 2009, killing 13 people, is set to be put to death on Dec. 3 at 1 p.m. local time at the same military base, according to the U.S. Army.
It would mark the first U.S. military execution in more than 60 years and the first by firing squad since World War II. A Pentagon official told The Hill the execution will be livestreamed.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/articles/know-firing-squad-execution-fort-223646946.html
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u/Intergalatic_Baker Advanced Rock Throwing Extraordinaire 8d ago
Why would you live-stream this shit… Like, good lord, talk about giving the enemy the propaganda they want.
Were it not for my random Wiki clicking about MW2’s controversies, I wouldn’t have know about this guy… Fuck, if he was left to die in Prison, bet you lots of people wouldn’t know him, both new and old terrorists.
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u/CrocPB 8d ago edited 8d ago
This gives the perpetrator the satisfaction of knowing that what they did changed something for their enemy.
As the terror documentary 4 Lions put it: he will echo through the ages and will last in history. He will get his rubber dinghy rapids in paradise.
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u/maveric101 8d ago
Yup. These people want their moment in the sun. Most of them don't plan on living out a long life. Media coverage helped turn a rash of mass shootings into an epidemic.
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u/zekromNLR 8d ago
Where do they even plan to livestream this? This is gonna violate the TOS of any livestreaming platfform.
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u/Familiar-Banana-8116 8d ago
The whitehouse pro trump platform they put up a few weeks ago.
I wish I had said this, someone in another thread did:
They won't allow our children to look at drag queens, but they can watch executions.
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u/CrocPB 8d ago
Ahh America. Where a nipple causes more outrage than shootings.
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u/EugeneStonersPotShop 8d ago
Growing up in the 1980’s I thought it was odd that we could have ultra violent television shows like TJ Hooker, which portrays a street cop played by William Shatner who apparently shoots and kills a “bad guy” in every episode, but seeing a naked person on television was considered “vile”.
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u/Familiar-Banana-8116 8d ago
Go watch some season 1 of Southpark and the Simpsons. People were losing there fucking minds over kids watching that stuff back in the day.
Part of both shows 'free' advertising budget was people flipping out over kids seeing it.
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u/Familiar-Banana-8116 8d ago
Why would you live-stream this shit?
SOP for dictatorships. The message of, 'Oh, we are holding back' to the citizens who might revolt is a pretty critical one.
I am sure they are staring at our aversion to torture and unusual punishment's as well.
Televising the caining is equally important as the caining.
I have no idea how to spell that word. At first I had canning. And then was all like, that aint it, it has an i in it. Now I am all like, Dude that aint it either.'.
Fuck that word.
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u/Turtledonuts Dear F111, you were close to us, you were interesting... 8d ago
I can't imagine it'll be fun for the people at Fort hood to be ordered to go line up on the parade ground in their dress uniforms and watch a dude get shot on live TV.
The logistics part of my brain is confused by this whole thing. It's televised, so it has to look good and be planned out properly, but it's being done with rifles, so it has to have a safe backstop. Are they going to put up a whole thing in the stadium, or are they going to tie him to a post out on the tank range? Is it going to be a whole ceremony with lots of discussion, or is it going to be a five minute live stream where Keggy says some slurs and then they shoot him?
Also, where are they livestreaming it? You can't stream someone dying online and the major news orgs will probably censor it. Is it going to be on twitter?
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u/ThomasHardyHarHar 8d ago
+ he’s in a wheelchair
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u/warboy 8d ago
No fucking way
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u/ThomasHardyHarHar 8d ago
Yeah I mean, if you want to turn people against the death h penalty what better thing to do than to live stream a firing squad killing a man in a wheelchair?
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u/ecolometrics 🚨DANGEROUSLY CREDIBLE🚨 8d ago edited 8d ago
Here I was thinking this was just an NCD joke. Outdone by reality yet again ...
The joke, are we the baddies, hit different this time
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u/SyrusDrake Deus difindit!⚛ 8d ago
What the fuck. This is just beyond fucked up. And a good chunk of Americans are apparently just cool with this kind of behavior?
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u/eksiow_renrew_etlam Owns and loves a Yandere F-22 8d ago
I would not like to know more.
Let me get off of Orange man's wild ride, please.
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u/donsimoni 8d ago
Citizen! Activate your propaganda screens, otherwise you are forcing us to initiate the Clockwork Orange method.
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u/TheSpanishDerp 8d ago
Then why did we get on the ride for a 2nd time?
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u/eksiow_renrew_etlam Owns and loves a Yandere F-22 8d ago
Bro i'm from Germany, i'm on it against my will
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u/Vandirac 8d ago
Let me know when Trump and Hesgeth will be the "stars" of the show. Then I might tune in.
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u/snakesoup124 8d ago
hegseth bringing back public execution is like a pig chopping wood for his own bbq. This will age like fine wine when he is convicted of treason.
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u/APariahsPariah 8d ago
Convicted or "convicted"? One of these things is not like the others.
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u/Attaxalotl Su-47 "Berkut" Enjoyer 8d ago
Convicted, repeatedly firing a bunch of your best in the middle of a war is uhhh not a great look.
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u/Tennebrae1 8d ago
The Wild Adventures of Agent Orange are going to continue until morale improves.
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u/MadMeadyRevenge 8d ago
why did I have to find out about this via r/noncredibledefense
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u/agentkayne 3000 Prescient PowerPoints of Perun 8d ago
The curse of this noncredible timeline is to find news in noncredible places.
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u/Tiss_E_Lur 8d ago
The mods should demand a context and source for news relevant posts. I find new stuff here all the time and have to search other places for what actually happened. This subredditt is somehow temporally unbound with humor from the past, present and somehow prescient.
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u/Tall_Ambition8486 8d ago
I got it from fednews then they permabanned me for suggesting they should cut his head off with a rusty knife and sell vials of his blood to all the maga people. I guess that was the wrong crowd for that kind of sarcasm.
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u/SeaToShy 8d ago
This administration would never execute a false flag against Buenos Aires.
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u/GoblinFive 8d ago
Finally someone else acknowledges that the whole Buenos Aires thing was a setup
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u/AutumnRi FAFO enjoyer 8d ago
Whaaat? Nooo, the bugs just happened to somehow launch one undetectable asteroid to kill one (economically minor) city instead of doing a coordinated strike against earth. Stupid bugs.
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u/the_marxman 8d ago
From the other side of the galaxy at that. Shot in a million.
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u/Fadman_Loki MilSpec Cookie Hater 🍪 8d ago
Don't forget it had to have gone FTL to get across the galaxy in less than a million years, but then dropped out of FTL to only blow up Buenos Aires and not the whole world.
That sure is one goofy rock!
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u/shibiwan He kutsuvat minua Nostradumassiksi 8d ago
They must want more martyrs, because this is how you inspire more terrorists to become martyrs.
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u/HurricaneUhScrambles 8d ago
How else will he get the Holy War he wants?
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u/shibiwan He kutsuvat minua Nostradumassiksi 8d ago
I don't want the skies above me darkened by 3000 black jets of Allah.
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u/Kerhnoton NAFO Army Major General ✯✯ 8d ago
You'll have to do with 3000 Claude drones of Ansar Allah.
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u/LordBrandon 8d ago
Allah only supplies sandals. For jets you need oil.
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u/DepartureNatural9340 8d ago
unironically tho, this is almost certainly a desparate attempt to stir ump war on terror anti muslim sentiment
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u/Selfweaver 8d ago
To be honest, it seems like the terrorists are doing a pretty good job about that. However, let's face it, becoming a martyr via the death penalty is an extremely long and boring process. This is not going to change much.
Personally, I prefer the method someone suggested on Twitter. Since the USS Constitution is technically still part of the fleet and fought in the Barbary Wars, instead of shooting him, we should follow the old military tradition of hanging the son of a bitch. This time from the yardarm of the USS Constitution.
That might also make future martyrs slightly less likely.
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u/Teddy_Radko Cleared hot by certified ASS FAC 8d ago
Isnt firing squad duty kinda enotional damage for normal people. Besides, whats wrong with the guillotine?
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u/Hogan4121401 8d ago
It's a french thing. Firing Squad is way more American.
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u/HaLordLe Nuclear Carpet Bombing Enthusiast 8d ago
also more military
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u/Hogan4121401 8d ago
Yes, but death by firing Squad is historically a "honorable" way to get executed as a soldier. Criminals and dishonored soldiers were therefore killed trough a single shot from behind or trough hanging.
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u/HaLordLe Nuclear Carpet Bombing Enthusiast 8d ago
good point. I do wonder what the criterium for choosing firing squad would then be, given that anything that justifies someone getting shot is propably also pretty dishonourable
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u/Hogan4121401 8d ago
Well take a look at the french marshal Michel Ney who even commanded his own firing squad. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Ney
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u/PissedOffPuffins 8d ago
I think it’s specific to the UCMJ that the death penalty for his charges is firing squad. Had he been charged with terrorism I think it would’ve been hanging, but they didn’t charge him with terrorism for some reason.
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u/DavidBrooker 8d ago
While the guillotine is a French thing, the French also have a long history of fusillading (the French term for firing squad), especially in military contexts.
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u/Hogan4121401 8d ago
I know but from a maga point of view there is nothing more american than gettin shot.
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u/EpsteinEpstainTheory Van Riper's number one boatman 8d ago
Depends, Romanians lined up to watch Ceausescu's on TV
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u/DavidBrooker 8d ago
While it's absolutely emotionally damaging, it also has a long military precident, to the point that there's a significant amount of ettiquite regarding it. For instance, an officer being executed may be offered the honor of giving the order to fire. Whereas standing the condemned with their back to the firing squad is considered dishonorable (representing cowardice).
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u/Slackslayer 8d ago
I'm sure it is, and that's all the more reason there should be an executioner's draft among a population that supports the death penalty.
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u/SomewhatInept 8d ago
Dude, you'll have a hard time sifting through the volunteer offers for this one.
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u/RavenTheRaptorX 8d ago
It is allegedly the solider doesn’t load the rifle the officer does and includes a blank. The firing squad knows there is a blank rifle but not who has the blank.
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u/RonaldWRailgun 8d ago
The fact that we need this stupid mechanism for people, soldiers even in this specific case, to cope with the idea that they killed a man, who was posing no threat to them in the moment, maybe is a good example of how hypocritical everyone involved with the process is, and why we shouldn't have a death penalty.
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u/RavenTheRaptorX 8d ago
Fair but I’m not sure life in prison is a great mercy either.
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u/RonaldWRailgun 8d ago edited 8d ago
It's not. And maybe some people don't deserve mercy.
But, unlike death, it's reversible: death sentence is not something we can trust to an imperfect system.
Here's the thing, I believe in the right to self-defense, even by using lethal force, so I only accept the State to dole out a death sentence when the existence of the person is an imminent threat to the State or the people near them. Imagine we captured Bin Laden alive, it would have been reasonable to assume that his presence even in a supermax prison would have put everyone around him at a realistic risk of being attacked, suicide bombed etc. Fine, give him the death sentence because you are acting to protect your own institutions.
Same reasoning for a deposed dictator that still has a following, or even a Cartel Leader with the resources to attack a prison. I justify those cases as "self-defense".
In every other case, life in prison is enough.
Cold blooded murder is still cold-blooded murder, even if I won't lose sleep for the person at the other end of a needle, noose, rifle or whatever. Being against the death sentence is not about them, it's about me.
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u/RavenTheRaptorX 8d ago
I don’t think we need to sprint the death sentence I don’t think the judge needs to car dry a sword (cause the man who passes the sentence should carry it out) still sixty years in prison then “whoops we were wrong you’re free” is that merciful or fair? Their life is over then. Obviously I’m using an extreme but as you said it’s an imperfect system.
Anyway I think we’re getting too credible. Uh so citizenship guarantees service?
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u/LordBrandon 8d ago
Hegseth is the only one shooting blanks.
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u/RavenTheRaptorX 8d ago
I have no idea what his bedroom life is like
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u/BigWilly526 Mobikcube BBQ 8d ago
Sexually harassing women that aren't his current wife sums it up
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u/Semajal 8d ago
Bets on the "firing squad" being an AI controlled gun...
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u/GoblinFive 8d ago
Calling Super Intelligence 'AI' is treason buddy, enjoy your livestream
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u/ReallyUncoolGuy Free Online Certificate of Credibility 8d ago
Fs in the chat for Semajal. If anyone would like to send special condolences to his loved ones the stream now accepts superchats.
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u/Teddy_Radko Cleared hot by certified ASS FAC 8d ago
Execution by AI assisted unmanned weapon system 😎
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u/Momsinfatuation 8d ago
Not if you volunteer for it. I’m sure there’s no shortage of service members that would gladly line up for the chance to pull a trigger. Plus one bullet is blanks so there is ambiguity if you really killed him.
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u/Teddy_Radko Cleared hot by certified ASS FAC 8d ago
Really? A blank? Are you serious or is this a NCD moment rn? Most blanks i know of require a muzzle mounted firing adapter. Youd also likely notice if you handled the ammunition or fired it. I imagine i could smell the difference even. Im basing this my experience in the armed forces. we had red wooden plug blank 556 ammo and a quite chonky blank firing adapter.
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u/BoleroMuyPicante 8d ago
They'll likely go with combat veterans who have been in fire fights before, and it'll almost certainly be volunteers. I'm fine with this POS eating a bullet, but livestreaming it as civilian entertainment is deeply unsettling.
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u/Tennebrae1 8d ago
Anything to own the libs. Congratiolations you are now in the same league as Iran, Afghanistan and North Korea. The last public execution in the West was in France in 1939.
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u/antesocial 8d ago
Previously untouchable dictator executed on live TV you say... I'll allow it.
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u/Berserk1234 8d ago
Who built a cult of personality and slapped his ugly face everywhere while the people were on the brink of starvation and gas was rationed. Damn, where have I heard that before.
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u/jimi_nemesis 8d ago
I think that's a bit different tbf. That was to show the people that the nightmare was over, and that psycho and his psycho wife actually met consequences and didn't just get quietly exiled.
This is just for a bloodthirsty show. My thoughts on the death penalty are very mixed, but turning it into entertainment is a bit fucked.
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u/Coidzor 8d ago
The last public execution in the West was in France in 1939.
Which is especially wild given the next 6 or 7 years.
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u/afghamistam 8d ago
Great place to note that when Petain got orders to return to France from Spain because he was going to have to handle the surrender to Germany, he complained to Franco that "this never would have happened if France wasn't so woke!"
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u/geniice 8d ago
And cartoonish computer game villains:
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u/I_upvote_downvotes 8d ago
I'll give it to Tiberian Sun since it's one of those rare dystopian futures that currently still sucks worse than right now.
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u/JoeAppleby 8d ago
"Fun" fact about that one: Christopher Lee was in the audience of that execution.
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u/lashblade 8d ago
I don't understand why people argue that doing an execution in public with full accountability is less civilised than in some shadowy back room.
It's one thing to oppose the death penalty, but if we do have executions then surely it should be made public?
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u/warboy 8d ago
There's a difference between "making it public" and fucking livestreaming it on state media. This is straight spectacle, not accountability.
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u/Venodran It’s not a bayonet unless it comes from the town of Bayonne 8d ago
Once more, building the Torment Nexus.
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u/fish_Inspector1755 8d ago
They want to make a spectacle out of it. I bet they would even run ads for their scummy crypto coins during the break.
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u/Kichigai 8d ago
The whole thing has me this discussion going down somewhere in this administration without a hint of irony.
Context for the scene: the guy on the right is a veteran newscaster who's just been laid off, and the guy on the right is his producer.
And if you've never seen Network (1976) you damn sure better.
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u/LordBrandon 8d ago
Will they be able to find a vein?
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u/Attaxalotl Su-47 "Berkut" Enjoyer 8d ago
I think they’ll do a firing squad for him, make it ironic.
Though it’s efficacy might be limited, he’s got no heart nor brain.
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u/an_agreeing_dothraki Scramjets when 8d ago
I think we're closer to living in the introduction to the Brotherhood of NOD campaign in Tiberian Sun
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u/combatwombat- Sex-Obsessed Beer Lover 8d ago edited 8d ago
This would have actually been a funny post if it was an episode of "Todays Execution"
Edit: especially since this guys name was also Hasan lol could have really spliced something great together
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u/Ancient_Ordinary6697 8d ago
He was going to pull the trigger himself, but backed out after someone told him the firing squad has to take a breathalyser test.
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u/Kloetenschlumpf 8d ago
At the last minute, a different method has now been scheduled for the execution. Instead of a firing squad, Hegseth will perform oral sex on the condemned man until he dies of exhaustion.
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u/FixFun1959 8d ago
FEDERAL NETWORK OFFICIAL BROADCAST
Justice is swift on the frontier!
In a historic declaration of absolute military resolve, Sky Marshall Hegseth has officially authorized execution by firing squad of former Mobile Infantry Major Nidal Hasan.
Would you like to know more?
Found guilty of orchestrating a vile terroristic attack against his fellow infantrymen inside the Outpost Hood barracks, Hasan’s betrayal took the lives of thirteen brave Federation citizens. In a society built upon the sacred vow that Service Guarantees Citizenship, the ultimate betrayal of our species demands the ultimate consequence!
History will be made live on your vid screen!
To ensure absolute transparency and to fortify the morale of our glorious Federation, the execution will be broadcast completely uncensored on all Federal Network channels! Citizens across the globe and our brave troopers deployed in the deep black are encouraged to gather, witness, and celebrate the absolute triumph of Federsrion law over treasonous rot.
Treason is a disease. Victory is the only cure.
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u/Muad-_-Dib 8d ago
How to make someone a martyr 101.
Its just so jaw droppingly idiotic.
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u/Jerkzilla000 8d ago
"People need to understand that there serious consequences for these types of things" (Hegseth).
As if would be islamist terrorists need to be made aware of this.
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u/LordBrandon 8d ago
Really he made that choice a long time ago. I don't even think Bin Laden's mom would complain that he was convicted unjustly.
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u/Airborne-Raid 8d ago
I’m not even that against the execution itself. The guy committed treason. However live-streaming it is what takes us into a dictatorship esque state.
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u/Woxof_46 8d ago
To be absolutely fair, the military never got rid of firing squads the same way Alabama never got rid of ‘ol sparky. Its been in the books all along, so using a firing squad on the guy they’re gonna shoot is fair game
Livestreaming it tho???
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u/Timtastic226 8d ago
“Yooo chat we’re about fuck this guy up, don’t forget to follow and subscribe!” Que star spangled banner.
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u/EnvironmentalBox6688 8d ago
This execution brought to you by draftkings
Let's see how long this post stays up once the mods wake up.
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u/billsatwork 8d ago
The timing of it feels so sweaty and desperate and gross. Executions shouldn't be election season props.
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u/PersnickityPenguin 8d ago
What did I miss this time
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u/VivaLasNewVegas Jackie Fisher's Worst Propagandist 8d ago
Kegsbreath is livestreaming an execution
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u/Senate343 8d ago
Same party that has issues with kids watching violent movies, listening to rap, and playing cod is gonna put an execution by firing squad online
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u/Cultural_Blueberry70 8d ago
Will Hegseth use his one chance to get the kill he has been craving?
Now he can finally become the man he always wanted to be. (By murdering a tied up man in a wheelchair.)
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u/BlunanNation 8d ago
The US really saw Charlie Kirks assassination basically livestreamed on Instagram and they thought...hey that was wacky...lets livestream an EXECUTION.
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u/Tennebrae1 8d ago
Anything to own the libs. Congratiolations you are now in the same league as Iran, Afghanistan and North Korea. The last public execution in the West was in France in 1939.
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u/DepartureNatural9340 8d ago
they want 9/11 so bad its hilarious
like they are desperate for some terror organization doing something thatll hopefully stir up War on terror era anti muslism sentiment in americans
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u/TumbleweedOver9000 8d ago
I think current administration inspired to be North Korea, maybe Trump getting ideas from meeting with Kim Jong Un, Pete Hegseth just do things in line with Trump
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u/Txtspeak Tapestryposter extraordinaire 8d ago
I still maintain that public execution is better than black bagging people.
Transparency, a good, liberal democratic value.
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u/Comrade_Derpsky 8d ago edited 8d ago
Are you aware of the SOFA agreement between the US and Japan and what its terms are regarding crimes? Because literally part of the agreement is that US military personnel who commit crimes off base are turned over to Japanese authorities. It's literally part of the treaty. You don't get a get-out-of-jail free card for being US military stationed in Japan, certainly not if you committed murder.
The guy is already going to rot in a Japanese prison. You're wasting your breath protesting for something that is already going to happen by law.
Moreover, this post isn't even about Ballard. It's about Nidal Hasan, the army major who carried out a mass shooting of his fellow soldiers as an act of islamist terrorism.
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u/Sgt_Smartarse Proud son of The Patriots! 💪😤🦅🛢️ 8d ago
Why can't we just duct tape a hand grenade to the guy's head with a string tied to the pin? Less emotional damage to the executioner(s)(maybe?) and effectively instant death 99.99% of the time.
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u/LordBrandon 8d ago
You can clean it up.
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u/Sgt_Smartarse Proud son of The Patriots! 💪😤🦅🛢️ 8d ago
Oh right, i forgot about the cleaning it up part.
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u/McDouggal Oobleck tank armor 8d ago
Thread has run it's course, congratulations on the R5 lock award.