r/PoursTea • 🫖 Mod ☕️ • Sep 14 '26

European Renaissance 🍾 🧀 🍻 🇬🇧The Future?

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u/James20985 Sep 14 '26

Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland have a net deficit (meaning they spend more than they take in taxes) consistently and are basically funded by the east and south east of England. They also spend about between 110% and 125% per capita on their populations in public services. Independance is going to bring enormous financial burdens to Dublin, Edinburgh and Cardiff and those independance parties cannot hide that fact so they avoid it at all cost. Any notion that England would be a benevolent former partner is wishful thinking, everything will be paid for by the new countries, pensions, benefits, nhs, everything. Not to mention that Ireland has no military to speak off and England will withdraw all military bases from those countries including rather profitable defence contracts. Wales and Scotland will almost certainly have no currency and will not be invited into the EU as net takers. No NATO coverage and no trade as they will have no currency. Wishful thinking to win votes from a naive public

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u/ManuelTzetzes Sep 14 '26

Sounds like a win for England then. You hold all the cards. You should support the removal of this awful drain on your Treasury.

Sounds like "Fine, leave me then. You'll be a disaster on your own. I pay all the bills, you'd be nothing without me!"

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u/James20985 Sep 14 '26

Except its not "fine then" we would all be much worse off and have less influence in the world. If we really must have independance parties with a one policy attitude then let's at least be honest with the electorate - Westminster will never allow this to happen, you can have all the votes and parades and marches you like but you would be bankrupt and unable to fund your hospitals, police, fire and councils there will not be the EU riding to the rescue to pick up the bills for the next 20 years and people will lose out whichever side of the border your on so....let's just not bow to Moscow's will shall we?

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u/Stinky_Pete699 Sep 15 '26

Yeh, stuff England and your supposed charity. All you got is ‘you’d be worse off’. We don’t want England and your supposed funding is a systemic lie and oversimplification. You are desperate for this union as you reap the rewards from it.