r/PoursTea • venom • 1d ago

Murdered By Words 🩸 Shots fired in Alaska

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u/10gherts 1d ago

That should have disqualified the entire GOP. Like what the actual fuck, no facts?? They're in their own world man

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u/PreviousCurrentThing 1d ago

Why? Those were the rules Vance and Walz had agreed to and what CBS said they would do:

CBS said the moderators — Norah O’Donnell, the anchor of “CBS Evening News,” and Margaret Brennan, who hosts “Face the Nation” — would primarily focus on encouraging exchanges between the candidates and enforcing the ground rules, rather than fact-checking.

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“The goal of the debate is to facilitate a good debate between the candidates, and the moderators will give them the opportunity to fact-check each other in real time,” Ms. Milne said. CBS said it would remind viewers that the network’s approach to a debate was distinct from a one-on-one interview with a candidate, as on “Face the Nation.”

Brennan arguably broke those ground rules when she interjected to "clarify for [their] viewers" that many Haitians in Springfield had legal status. She did this after Walz had already responded to Vance (candidates were supposed to fact check each other, Walz had the opportunity), and then didn't give Vance a chance to respond.

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u/Penland_2008 1d ago

Because he told a racist lie about the immigration status of people Trump had just claimed were eating cats and dogs.

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u/PreviousCurrentThing 1d ago

Here's the transcript of the debate. The relevant exchange is about a quarter of the way down, or you can search for Springfield.

Can you quote the "racist lie" he told?

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u/Penland_2008 23h ago

I mean most of what he said was a flat out lie. Reading his answers on foreign policyare flat out lol worthy given how terribly the admin has handled that. But this is the part I referring to
“Now, Governor Walz brought up the community of Springfield, and he’s very worried about the things that I’ve said in Springfield. Look, in Springfield, Ohio and in communities all across this country, you’ve got schools that are overwhelmed, you’ve got hospitals that are overwhelmed, you have got housing that is totally unaffordable because we brought in millions of illegal immigrants to compete with Americans for scarce homes. The people that I’m most worried about in Springfield, Ohio, are the American citizens who have had their lives destroyed by Kamala Harris’s open border. It is a disgrace, Tim. And I actually think, I agree with you. I think you want to solve this problem, but I don’t think that Kamala Harris does.”

None of what he says is correct and it is xenophobic nonsense that has proven to be false. Remember this was said immediately after Trump accused the Springfield Haitian community of eating cats and dogs. An utterly nonsense lie with no evidence.