r/PoursTea • u/JustVenom____ venom • 1d ago
Murdered By Words š©ø Shots fired in Alaska
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u/Oalka 1d ago
"I have a thorough idea of what sort of issues might come up and what my proposals for those issues are" "Well how the fuck is that fair?"
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u/Last-Appointment6577 1d ago
Why do I get the feeling that I'm JUST starting to realize that most of these fucks running for office are treating it no differently than a high school homecoming dance?
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u/Hutchiaj01 1d ago
Because you finally started paying attention? No shade, I'm no better. But that's what my self revelation was
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u/Last-Appointment6577 1d ago
well, here's the thing. I've been pretty aware of the state of things since 9/11 and up until age 35 (am 39 now) It was ALWAYS my running assumption that people just kept maturing as they got older...
Here I am all of about to be 40 just now fully coming to terms with the fact that some people never make it mentally past grade school and THAT is what is depressing for me.
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u/Virtualguinea 1d ago
I have come to the same conclusion. Iām 45 and I have continued to learn and grow as I get older. It seems that the majority of our peers have not.
That is the only reason I can find for how a large amount of people still continue to scream their praise and admiration for the Republican candidates.
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u/SoundPuzzleheaded857 1d ago
38-two-weeks-from-39 here. Hopefully not a /majority/ of our peers, theyāre just loud and shameless, and amplified by enemies foreign and domestic. Hopefully. š¤
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u/Duet_Yourself 23h ago
āThink of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are stupider than that.ā
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u/theantidrug 22h ago
Almost every day I get so sad that Carlin's last president was GWB and he missed the national optimism and joy that came when Obama got elected. But then I get so happy that he didn't make it to see what came next.
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u/echild07 1d ago
I think it is a period when they peak. They stop growing. There are people that are my age (almost 60) still wearing 1980s hair, and clothes. That was their peak, and they don't change. People that peaked in highschool on the football team and you still hear about in their 50s, who then try to live through their children, who obviously wanted to play football.
Some do it in the teens, some in college, some keep growing an evolving. I had many set opinions when I was young, and having kids made me evaluate my parents, and my opinions. Keep changing.
They have almost a sunken cost into their personality, they won't change, can't change. And they usually don't react well to being asked to change.
My family is MAGA. And the best they can do is "not vote". Not admit they are wrong, just sit it out to see how it comes out. Or so they are telling me. And they like to group up and attack my wife and I, and when we hit them with facts, it is "you can't prove that", you prove it, "that is not from a real news agency". They have their talking points, and you can go to parties and see them just parrot them. Over and over and over.
So yeah, they stop at some point and just "settle"? Same clothes, same beliefs, same everything.
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u/WooeBetidee 22h ago
I could agree with the points of most of this, but not the clothes part...
I found a style I liked in my teens, I'm not gonna change what I like just because the fashion changes.
Better than people dissing something that's out of fashion and embracing it when it's suddenly 'hot'. That's not growing, that's confirming.
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u/Hobbies-R-Happiness 1d ago
When I went off to college, my dad told me this wisdom that has stuck with me for 20 years now:
āYou know all those stupid kids you went to school with? All the kids that would lie, cheat, or steal to get ahead? Well, they donāt disappear now that you are an adult.ā
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u/Last-Appointment6577 1d ago
> āYou know all those stupid kids you went to school with? All the kids that would lie, cheat, or steal to get ahead? Well, they donāt disappear now that you are an adult.ā
what a kick in the dick this is. Again I don't even know why now of all times in my life I'm having this crushing epiphany NOW because I've watched it happen on repeat since Clinton left office.
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u/DrakeMallard919 1d ago
These people are incapable of - and unwilling to - do the work of governing.
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u/Turbulent-Prior-2253 1d ago
Right? It isn't like the issues are obscured here. A decent debate prep team will be able to predict 95% of the themes the questions will cover, and prep answer that can be tailored to whatever the specific question might be. That is the entire point of debate prep - anticipate, plan and practice.
The fact that Mary prepped better than Dan isn't some gotcha.
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u/PooGoblin69420 1d ago
Honestly, anyone who couldnāt predict what questions would come up is already unqualified for the job
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u/Gaylen 1d ago
And so is their staff. Like there are supposed to be layers of people who know generally what is important to the constituents and thus likely to be talked about out of debate.
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u/GodHimselfNoCap 1d ago
Its not just that he couldnt predict, its that the idea of trying to do so never even occured to him
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u/youshallknowus 1d ago
Remember, this worked on Hillary Clinton. Voters found it offputting that she was "overprepared"!
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u/Ad_Meliora_24 1d ago
She was called āeliteā as an insult. Yeah I want competent elites in charge.
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u/AgencyFast7700 1d ago
Maybe not elite. But capable and professional
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u/Ad_Meliora_24 1d ago
Conservatives called her an elitist to make her sound out of touch around the 2016 election cycle.
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u/ItsSpaghettiLee2112 1d ago
Clinton certainly was an elitist but so was every conservative calling her one. Including Donald Trump who then went on to become a terrorist after the world discovered he is a pedophile.
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u/DingleBoone 23h ago
I was gonna say, Trump's ENTIRE PERSONALITY is about being as much of an "elite" as possible
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u/Tracorre 1d ago
Always mind boggling that calling Clinton elitist worked when she was running against a damn billionaire who was born rich.
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u/CaptainSparklebottom 1d ago
It didn't help that MSNBC & CNN refered to them as the elite, or themselves as the elites.
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u/maryummy 19h ago
Right? Everyone wants elite athletes on the Olympic team. But for some reason, they want people with no discernable skills running the country.
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u/malthar76 1d ago
Americans have been trained to be anti-intellectual. They doubt all experts and suspect educated people of making things up.
The last 10 years is just MaGA reaping that harvest.
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u/REDDITATWORKFTW 1d ago
I came here to say exactly this.
In 2016, after the second Clinton-Trump debate, a co-worker literally said to me, "I don't like that she had an answer for everything."
I responded, "Isn't it good that she has experience, she's cared enough to prepare?"
"I didn't like it."
I stopped listening to talk radio by this stage but it was hugely influential back then. Looking back, I'm convinced Fox News or WOWO (Indiana AM radio) put this idea in my co-worker's head.
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u/ArtofKuma 1d ago
In hindsight, everything Hilary has said came true. She deserved to have been labeled a politician, but at least she isn't an incompetent dottering buffoon.
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u/MobileArtist1371 22h ago
She understood both the job and how Trump works cause she was involved with both for decades.
That's not to say if she won that everything she said she'd do would come true either.
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u/hodorhodor12 20h ago
A lot of complaints about her applied to nearly all politicians. I feel that a lot of the complaints stuck because of demonization by right wing media and because she's a woman.
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u/Vylnce 1d ago
Alaska is a state that prides itself on being prepared, if you don't you freeze to death (or starve to death like that bus boy).
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u/Possible-Nectarine80 1d ago
This is what you get when for decades, one party runs a state. They just phone it in and feel entitled to the job.
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u/majortaylor87 1d ago
You are so right! Keith Self a republican running in Texas said exactly this when asked he doesnt debate. He literally said something to the effect of "why should I, its MY seat...." like he owns it.
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u/raget_bulves 1d ago
They see themselves as landed gentry, basically ā white folks realized they never really needed a truly representative government once it wasnāt just theirs to run.
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u/AcceptablySoiled 1d ago
Republicans have been shut out of control in Washington state, and deserve it (currently the state GOP is focusing on writing open letters to Trump begging for military occupation and baselessly alleging fraud in every governor election going back to the nineties), but thereās no coherent alternative to disincentivize Democratic Party decadence and corruption.
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u/LibrarianNo6865 19h ago
Itās not like he didnāt prepare. There isnāt anything he can do to prepare. He has nothing really to tout or answer that isnāt lies. Thereās a reason theyāve been ducking every debate, they donāt have a leg to stand on. This is just more evidence of that. Dude walked full on into that. And heās stupid for doing so.
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u/zqfmgb123 18h ago
He's part of a party whose whole ideology is to prove governments don't do anything. Why would he prove his party wrong by having any accomplishments to speak of?
At best they do nothing, at worst they actively sabotage to stop things from getting done.
Then they can point to the resulting failure as evidence of government not doing anything to get re-elected by his
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u/toilandtrouble6852 16h ago
Thatās not entirely true - sometimes they engage in brazen corruption.
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u/Jerryjb63 12h ago
This is the exact reason I donāt think I could ever vote for a Republican. Their whole agenda is to make the government look incompetent, so they can divest from it and lower taxes on the rich and deregulate markets as to make it easier to exploit us.
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u/ForbiddenSirenz 16h ago
Itās basically that with every Republican lmao. None of them have any plans or ideas. Itās always just āIāll do whatever Trump whatās and fall in line.ā Literally nothing else. You can tell their āpolicyā is whatever trumps cooking up that day.
Itās the same here in Michigan. Dr. Abdul El-Sayed is a heavy hitting beast whoās actually got plans and is coherent and a good dude who really loves this state lmao. Florida Mike Rodgers is a bum who used his time in past office to get rich, he fucked off to Florida and he comes back like every 4 years to try and run to gain more power. Heās a BUM!
He skipped out on the first debate and it was funnily awkward cause Abdul was just banging out answers and looking great and heās occasionally be look over at the empty
Podium next to him lmfao.Second debate when he actually showed up like I said earlier. He had nothing. Just āIāll do whatever Trump wants.ā
Dr. El-Sayed was prepared and was throwing haymakers over and over. God I canāt wait to vote for him again lmfao.
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u/NYC-WhWmn-ov50 7h ago
I'm in NYC and I watched that first 'debate' (against air). I just thought, even if you thought you'd do badly, how did you think it wouldnt be so much worse to not show up at all? Did you really think they would just cancel it? The 'debate' was masterful but at the very least ot was going to end up an unopposed interview with free airtime for El-Sayed. You cant argue that it counts as an illegal campaign contribution of free advertising because you had the OPTION to show up, you just didnt. Rogers, or whoever advised him that it was a good idea to ditch, just made them look so much worse.
Just like Congressman Andy 'I dont know the law' Harris insulting his constituent for laughing at his stupid response and then threatening a student journalism for recording him in a public place WHILE OTHER PEOPLE WERE ALSO RECORDING HIM. Misquote the law about the government's role in free speech. When you ARE currently the government. Yikes.
I swear, you'd think they'd have to actively try to look that stupid. And yet...
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u/MylaughingLobe 8h ago
Abdul for the win. Itās not going to be as close as theyāre trying to make it look
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u/boogideeb 17h ago
They did the same thing with the Harris/Trump debate. My maga co-worker didn't like it that I said that the questions are mostly predictable.
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u/LiplessGrinner 13h ago
Danās is the kind of cuckoldry that gets most Alaskan candidates their seats. Heās an entitled empty-suit dipshit whoās bounced from one empty chair to another his entire ass crack of a ācareer.ā
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u/rwilcox 8h ago
And itās easy enough for him to still win the debate
āBringing notes? Might as well use a teleprompter then!ā
āWhy was she prepared? WHAT IS SHE HIDING?ā
āWant some know-it-all ruling you from Washington, always with the answers? Thatās what the Democrats wantā
Debate won.
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u/IAmMiddleChild 1d ago
I was told there would be no fact checking. Remember when that was Trump's pushback on debates?
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/trump-says-debate-moderators-shouldnt-fact-check
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u/Chewsdayiddinit 1d ago
That was actually Vance.
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u/Any_Juggernaut5326 1d ago
I was told there would be no fact checking.
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u/captaincook14 1d ago
How that alone wasnāt 1 of the 1000 tipping points just shows how low weāve gone
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u/negative_four 1d ago
Not only was it not a tipping point, MAGA was downright cheering it like it was a clap back
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u/playkateme 22h ago
The price of gasoline.
If republicans lose any seats this year it wonāt be because of the reprehensible actions of this administration, it will be because a tank of gas costs over $100ā¦
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u/Visual_Exam7903 1d ago
Fact checking the guy talking about fact checking.... he was told there would be no fact checking.
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u/10gherts 1d ago
That should have disqualified the entire GOP. Like what the actual fuck, no facts?? They're in their own world man
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u/REDDITATWORKFTW 1d ago
In 2016, after the second Clinton-Trump debate, a co-worker literally said to me, "I don't like that she had an answer for everything."
I responded, "Isn't it good that she has experience, she's cared enough to prepare?"
"I didn't like it."
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u/Due-Pressure-8070 1d ago
Women wil always be held to a different standard. Had it been a man. He would have gotten compliments
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u/Jasrek 21h ago
My dad's rationale for not liking Kamala Harris was that she had a weird laugh. That was it, that was the whole thing. She couldn't possibly be competent, he claimed, because of that sole reason. Anytime I pointed out anything about Trump, it went back to Harris' laugh, as if that were somehow the basis and foundation of political acumen.
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u/Theranos_Shill 18h ago
Like sure he is a convicted fraud and rapist who incited a violent attack on Congress to overturn the election result when he lost last time, but she has a funny laugh!
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u/Explosion1850 14h ago
Because right wing media pushed the "weird laugh" ad reason to dislike her so consumers of right wing media mindlessly adopted what they were told to believe
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u/Ironblight_99 12h ago
Yeah I stopped talking to my dad about politics. Whenever he tries to make something political I pivot. Itās funny, he wasnāt political at all before 2016 and now we have drink coasters with the picture of trump raising his fist with a bloody ear.
Also hilariously the sub warned me about āstarting a flame warā when I mentioned the orange man. When I delete his name, the warning disappears lol. Trump sucks.
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u/LeisureSuitLarrey 14h ago
I reflect back to those dark days when misspelling the word āpotatoā crippled the incumbent presidentās chances of reelection.
How about Howard Dean having certain victory snatched from him when he yelled āyeah!ā in a weird way.
Scary times with those weirdos back then. Glad we have the best and brightest at the helm today.
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u/Essentially_Me 4h ago
Yeah, Iām pretty sure āweird laughā was āI am uncomfortable with this biracial woman, so letās go with a weird personality quirk.ā
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u/sixminutes 18h ago
That's a ridiculous reason. Much better to not vote for her because he just couldn't see himself having a beer with her
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u/attilathehunty 5h ago
I learned in high school government class that many people in this country (maybe elsewhere too) are shallow when it comes to voting. Many people will end up voting based on looks (attractive candidates do better), the candidate's name, a weird laugh, etc. Some people want to vote but aren't engaged in the politics of it all, so this is what they resort to.
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u/Ayotha 1d ago
Always mock the intelligence of sad person from then on. Like talk to them like a child when they are around
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u/Reflexes-of-a-Tree 23h ago
āYour shoes look excellently tied today, Cindy! Great job!ā
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u/Beneficial_Treat5454 23h ago
I know its not democratic. But, if it was corruption-proof. I would prefer some kind of test people have to take in order to be deemed competent enough to vote. or hell... competent enough to lead a country.
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u/FixerVictor 22h ago
Why do you think that's not democratic? If anything, ensuring people understand what they're voting for would be the more 'democratic' way to do it, as currently people are unwittingly allowing the rich and powerful to make decisions for them, anyway.
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u/CanKaNoReyCropper 22h ago
Ah! Then you'll love the American South! We had tests to cast your ballot, and they were sure-fire great.
Here's how it worked:
A white guy casting his ballot is asked to spell the word 'the'.
The back guy after him is asked to spell the word 'antidisestablishmentarianism'.
It was... not great.
But the devil's in the details and I'm sure you have a foolproof fair system that cannot be abused or misused or unfair in any way, shape or form...
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u/AnimatorImpressive24 16h ago
Anyone who thinks this can be resolved by tech or that it wouldn't target the specific people it did before is just kicking the can down the road.
The entrenched powers will have equally as much control over any tech used as they had over the proctors delivering the test before, and it ultimately doesn't matter which group they decide to exclude as a bid to maintaining their control (but they absolutely will target the same people as last time, and a bunch of other people for different reasons but the same goal).
Anything that filters voting benefits the faction that is already voted in when filtering is implemented.Ā Whether or not that maps directly to a recognized political party has more to do with a given nation's media and propaganda sophistication than any actual power held by specific ideological adherents.
See also:
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u/nannygoats 21h ago
Yeah unfortunately thatās how they suppressed the vote for black people. But hey! How about we start properly educating the children in this country with civics and facts and media literacy and the true history of this country. Republicans will hate that but as usual they will have zero substantive arguments against it.
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u/epicredditdude1 1d ago
I canāt imagine being a grown ass man whining like this on national television and not being profoundly embarrassed.
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u/sweetdreamspootypie 1d ago
It's probably strategic. Like, yes it's pathetic, but for them by him asking the question it plants the seed of debates being rigged against them in the mind of their demographic
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u/pyrothelostone 23h ago
I mean, we just watched a grown ass woman who can barely read try to be the press secretary and fail so miserably she was fired in less than a week.
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u/SECRETBLENDS 1d ago
Republicans are pathetic, and they deserve every bit of the assbeating they're about to get in the midterms.
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u/NuAngelDOTnet 1d ago
I agree, except for the part where we're going to barely eek out wins left and right. God I hope I'm wrong, but I've been all out of hope for a decade now.
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u/Junior-Ease-2349 1d ago
I have good news for you. And terrible news.
Despite republicans doing a wonderful job showing that they are the worst possible governing force, their base does NOT CARE, and will hold their nose while complaining that they "HAD to vote for these terrible candidates to keep from starving under communist sharia law dictators!"
My brother literally texted to me this week "given a choice of two dictators"...
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u/Slighted_Inevitable 1d ago
80 million eligible voters sat at home.
We are choosing to be ruled by the moronic
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u/thebranbish 1d ago
I live in Arkansas where we have nearly 650,000 possible voters who are unregistered. Itās usually due to a severe lack of civil responsibility. They donāt want to be called for jury duty or scared to āgib the gubmint muh infurmayshunsā, like birth certificates, post office, drivers licenses, and social security numbers arenāt already a thing. Thereās usually only a 60% - 65% voter turnout as well among the registered voters. The apathy is so real down here.
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u/RVtech101 23h ago
And 77 million knowingly and willingly voted for a rapist with countless bankruptcies and failed businesses.
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u/NecrogasmicLove 1d ago edited 1d ago
They may not lose though. Thucydides spoke of this (loyalty to party Is greater than anything...)
"Words had to change their ordinary meaning and to take that which was now given them. Reckless audacity came to be considered the courage of a loyal ally; prudent hesitation, specious cowardice; moderation was held to be a cloak for unmanliness; ability to see all sides of a question inaptness to act on any. Frantic violence, became the attribute of manliness; cautious plotting, a justifiable means of self-defence.
[5] The advocate of extreme measures was always trustworthy; his opponent a man to be suspected. To succeed in a plot was to have a shrewd head, to divine a plot a still shrewder; but to try to provide against having to do either was to break up your party and to be afraid of your adversaries. In fine, to forestall an intending criminal, or to suggest the idea of a crime where it was wanting, was equally commended,
[6] until even blood became a weaker tie than party, from the superior readiness of those united by the latter to dare everything without reserve; for such associations had not in view the blessings derivable from established institutions but were formed by ambition for their overthrow; and the confidence of their members in each other rested less on any religious sanction than upon complicity in crime.
[7] The fair proposals of an adversary were met with jealous precautions by the stronger of the two, and not with a generous confidence. Revenge also was held of more account than self-preservation. Oaths of reconciliation, being only proffered on either side to meet an immediate difficulty, only held good so long as no other weapon was at hand; but when opportunity offered, he who first ventured to seize it and to take his enemy off his guard, thought this perfidious vengeance sweeter than an open one, since, considerations of safety apart, success by treachery won him the palm of superior intelligence. Indeed it is generally the case that men are readier to call rogues clever than simpletons honest, and are as ashamed of being the second as they are proud of being the first.
[8] The cause of all these evils was the lust for power arising from greed and ambition; and from these passions proceeded the violence of parties once engaged in contention. The leaders in the cities, each provided with the fairest professions, on the one side with the cry of political equality of the people, on the other of a moderate aristocracy, sought prizes for themselves in those public interests which they pretended to cherish, and, recoiling from no means in their struggles for ascendancy, engaged in the direct excesses; in their acts of vengeance they went to even greater lengths, not stopping at what justice or the good of the state demanded, but making the party caprice of the moment their only standard, and invoking with equal readiness the condemnation of an unjust verdict or the authority of the strong arm to glut the animosities of the hour. Thus religion was in honor with neither party; but the use of fair phrases to arrive at guilty ends was in high reputation. Meanwhile the moderate part of the citizens perished between the two, either for not joining in the quarrel, or because envy would not suffer them to escape."- Thucydides, History of the Peloponnesian War chapter 3
It's hard enough to fix brainwashed or stupid. Brainwashed and stupid... Woof.
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u/hot_ho11ow_point 21h ago
I thought 2024 was going to be an assbeating; please don't get complacent.Ā
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u/john_wingerr 1d ago
People need to get out and vote though!!! Donāt just count on it, be the voice and vote these idiots out. Get your friends to vote. Donāt be complacent.
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u/Current_Department73 1d ago
lol it's a political debate, everyone knows what the questions are going to be. it's not Jeopardy bro
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u/Constant-Roll706 1d ago
'we were allowed to open a dictionary before the spelling bee? Why didn't anyone tell me that?'
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u/TaxLawKingGA 1d ago
āItās not fair, she cheated. She studied!
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u/e37d93eeb23335dc 23h ago
This seriously happened to me in college. I studied for a test and aced it. Nobody else in the class passed the test. The professor announced he was tossing out my test and curving the grade for everyone else. All the other students were sure I must have cheated and didn't believe that I studied.
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u/Logical-Simple-4825 23h ago
I had a similar experience but my grade was not tossed and everyone hated me.
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u/klawz86 23h ago edited 22h ago
Some upperclassmen assholes in multivariable made fun of my diction when I went north to college as a freshman. I have never worked as hard in a math class as I did in that class just to fuck up the curve.
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u/NibblesMcGiblet 22h ago
LIkewise, it was community college and I was studying web design back in 98-99, so the very early days. Took a test on html coding and they announced that not only did someone ace it, but they found an additional mistake the teacher hadn't even meant to put into the code we analyzed. I still can't believe I'm the only one that caught that #TG904Y (or whatever) wasn't a real color. Except in my case, the teacher announced that I was the reason there would be no curve. I found it very difficult to make friends in that class after that.
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u/marvology 21h ago
I had exactly one experience like this, one of those greatest day of college moments. We had a hard mid-semester exam. Everyone is complaining about how hard it was the next class. One of those tests where I had no clue how well I did. Professor lightly berates the class for scores as he's handing them back, and says something like "I can tell one person gets it." He mentioned the distribution, I think it was something like one A, one B, everyone else Cs and below. People are getting their tests and rather loudly complaining about their grades.
I'm thinking "oh damn!" guy next to me I see got a 70ish and making his grievances know to those around him. I got a 95% on the test lol
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u/Sestos 23h ago
I did not know we could prepare responses to questions that my campaign staff believe most people will ask about and prepare responses to things my opponent may claim about their record or me....
He is the incumbent...gezz
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u/Competitive-Tea-6141 1d ago
Turns out an effective politician has their staff think through possible questions based on current events and they prepare responses. Surely if Dan's staff doesn't have time, he could have asked ChatGPT - "what are likely debate questions for an Alaskan representative?"
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u/AutisticHobbit 20h ago
Every time a conservative speaks, it proves they have no business in speaking.
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u/Real-Extension-1357 21h ago edited 21h ago
Republicans: we are tough hardworking americans who are ready for any job or fight
Republican senator: why are you preparing for a high paying position and being a representative for your constituents? Thats cheating!
Republican scum are deeply unserious clowns. Any hardworking person anywhere, yet alone in America, knows you dont just yolo jobs. A good plumber or construction worker doesn't show up to a job site with no tools or unprepared with no permits if needed. A lawyer doesn't come to court to represent their clients without spending some time reviewing the case most of the time, nevermind high profiles ones. A candidate for any decent competitive job is expected, at minimum, to do some kind of prep before waltzing into the door.
Why the fuck do Republicans not hold their reps to any fucking minimum standards? Mr I was told you werent going to fact check?
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u/TheFlamingNumbat 1d ago
Hilarious.
Dan, there's this thing called preparation...
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u/Itchy-Beach-1384 1d ago
Bernie Sanders showed up in 2015 with a theory on wealth distribution while his opponents argued about if it was okay to form fascist police states or treat racial minorities different.
Majority participants in our democracy are clowns.
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u/SuperUberKruber 1d ago
"What do you mean, I was supposed to be educated about these citizen issues? I thought my job was to blame others, wave at crowds, kiss babies when cameras are on, and rape them when they are off"
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u/MIKEl281 22h ago
āI did nothing and Iām all out of options!ā
Iām sad that it still wouldnāt surprise me to see this nitwit pull ahead in the polls
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u/durk1912 1d ago
I have never been surprised by a question asked at a debate except when they are useless non-policy questions. Otherwise the questions are painfully predictable.Ā
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u/No_Communication2959 18h ago
It used to be standard for people to come prepared for a debate with facts to support their ideas.
Now one side shows up with facts and the other spouts nonsense and calls their own voters idiots.
Somehow Americans are torn on who to vote for.
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u/magicmulder 1d ago
Republicans are obsessed with Dems āgetting the questions in advanceā because they always demand to get them. Every accusation is a confession.
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u/E-2theRescue 1d ago
Conservatives lying, cheating, and stealing to win?
Must be a day ending in -y.
And I don't even know why they try to begin with. Their cult will still vote for them no matter what. Trump wasn't lying when he said he could shoot someone and MAGA would still vote for him. In fact, he did shoot someone, and they still voted for him. Because they actually believe some kid tried to assassinate him.
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u/DueceVoyeur 1d ago
GOP are the kids who cheated thru HS and college. Now pretend that they passed all classes by themselves
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u/AnastasiaNo70 Waffles And Pancakesš§š„ 19h ago
The better question is WHY WASNāT HE PREPARED?
Did he think heād just wing it?
Phone it in?
And he has the balls to insult her for doing what he should have done: PREPARED.
That just tells me he doesnāt give a shit about being senator, so maybe he needs to be fired by the people.
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u/McDuchess 13h ago
Being prepared in debates can mean having notes. A good debater needs facts and citations. Political debates less so than scholarly debate.
But you still need to prepare and have knowledge of what you are talking about.
Too many Republicans have none.
CF: the Maryland representative who got big mad at a woman in his audience for laughing at him and called a First Amendment violation.
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u/NameLips 1d ago
It's it that hard to anticipate questions and write responses for the 10 or so most likely issues.
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u/caravan_for_me_ma 1d ago
And to enough of the audience, heās pointing out sheās cheating and lying. His next fundraising letter will highlight that. And voters will support him.
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u/JustHewIt 23h ago
The fact that you can say with certainty which party each person belongs to just based off this image is so telling.
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u/hard_gravy_2 23h ago
Doesn't matter what the facts are, the fascist disinfo ecosystem will simply repeat the accusation as a proven fact.
They understand that just like 1930s Germany they don't need a majority - just enough of a fanatic base to seize power, which is well underway already.
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u/He_Hate_Me_5 21h ago
Oh Dan, you sweet summer child. Trumps endorsement alone isnāt enough to show your constituents you are capable.
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u/NYC-WhWmn-ov50 7h ago
GOP rule of thumb: my opponent prepared for the obvious questions we would likely be asked in this debate? THATS CHEATING!!
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u/x40Shots 6h ago
Fucking Sullivan, that last debate where he was shuffling papers and not paying attention the whole time, seemingly also trying to ruffle Peltola who was unflappable mind you, and egregiously and blatantly leaned forward to see which way she answered before flipping his paddle to the same was honestly so bad.
I didn't even catch this one, but I see he's still playing gd games. Please stop electing terrible people like Sullivan.
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u/Gay_Stoner_ 1d ago
Republican preparedness is what kids bop theyāre gonna play to attract the 9 yr olds.
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u/chiksahlube 1d ago
Okay, benefit of the doubt here...(not that they deserve it)
But any decent candidate manager would have a good idea of the most likely questions to be asked and would send them up there prepared for those questions.
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u/Chillow_Ufgreat 1d ago
It's been a decade of no-shows, rules lawyering, and bad faith on the debate stage for the GOP. To the point where they forgot how to actually do the damn thing.