What will actually happen is that Trump will say the elections were fixed. He, Johnson, and Vance will refuse to seat the new Democrat congress people. He will declare marshall law and enforce curfews in DC.
And then weâll see how much Americans want democracy.
They don't get to refuse to seat them because it's not their purview. The Clerk of the House seats the new House because there is no Speaker until the new majority elects one, and before someone brings up the notion that they'll install a clerk who will do what they say the timing required to do so is razor thin and likely beyond Johnson's capacity.
As for the Senate, Vance trying to do that would be extremely dangerous because of the carryover constancy- unlike the House it's not a fresh slate, votes of import are taken based on a majority of those present to vote, and if the Senate flips it will mean the GOP lost seats while the Dems did not. It would depend on exactly how the numbers shook out, but the Dems would likely still have a simple majority of those present- which would enable the nuclear option.
Of course itâs not legal. Trump doesnât care about legal.
Plan A is to use Russia, Elon, and the Supreme Court to steal the election. If that works, itâs his best option. Plan B is to prevent the election entirely using âwar powers.â Plan C is to invalidate/deny the election results, delay seating democrats, and conduct a fake âinvestigation.â
I am not saying "They can't do that because it would be breaking a law", I am saying "They can't do that because that is literally not how it works." All of their doings so far have been theoretically arguable as part of executive powers; this is by design, because it enables them to stand enough of a chance in the judiciary that their packed court could stamp them with help from Roberts, Barrett, and Gorsuch (which is why they need the theoretical standing). This notion of not seating democrats that win has no such ground to stand on.
While I get what you are saying, I wouldn't put anything past these lunatics. Look what happened the last time he lost, he convinced a bunch of people to try and overtake the capitol and almost kill people that did not do his bidding. That delayed things for a little while then, who knows what they would try since they have the majority.
And they tried to declare the certification invalid because of something like âthe law says it has to occur on a particular day and it didnât because they had to clear the place out and reconvene in the middle of the nightâ. It sounds like the kind of âlegal argumentâ my kids would dream up to prove that legally I had to order a pizza if they didnât like what I cooked for supper, or some similar stupid thing.
Neither has any of the bullshit Trump had done. He does what he wants and he has many deranged loyal supporters who, idk, would storm a capitol at his request.
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u/AmericasNextTopHobo 1d ago
Frankly, this is an optimistic outlook.
What will actually happen is that Trump will say the elections were fixed. He, Johnson, and Vance will refuse to seat the new Democrat congress people. He will declare marshall law and enforce curfews in DC.
And then weâll see how much Americans want democracy.