r/PoursTea • 🫖 Mod ☕️ • 14h ago

⚠️Trigger Warning⚠️ Calls It

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u/Previous-Artist-9252 12h ago

I mean this question openly and honestly.

How do you expect your average man on the street to shut down this behavior?

I am a 40 year old man and not anywhere near dorms or fraternities. When I was in college, I was often the young woman getting raped so I am hardly blind the fact that these are common occurrences. However, as a middle aged queer trans social worker, I am not involved with men engaging in this behavior.

Or, to paraphrase someone more articulate than me, if there are good men, they are not going to be in the group chat about raping women. Those groups have already self selected those men out of their social organizing. And I am happy to have been selected out of such peer groups.

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u/tally-strobe 11h ago

This is not an open and honest question.

Starting a question with “How do you expect…” then moving on to “excuse blah blah excuse blah blah” is not an open and honest inquiry.

Try asking “How can I, a 40 yr old man, stop ignoring or contributing to rape culture?”

My answer would be to stop protecting yourself with excuses, stop acting like your history should abscond you from how you’re currently perceived, treat all women — even invisible women — with respect, call out abusive behavior when you see it, shut down offensive jokes and make sure people know that jokes that punch down are not OK. This is enough. You can use your life experience to add to the list.

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u/Gold-Schedule-4127 10h ago

"shut down offensive jokes and make sure people know that jokes that punch down are not OK" And of course you are the arbiter of what is considered offensive or up and down. It is this delusion that creates splinter groups of abusive men. If you didn't start invading our spaces and policing our communication we could keep the wanderers from going astray. We don't ask you to stop gossiping and ruining people's social life, which you often do. Stay the in your lane and maybe things would go smoother.

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u/tally-strobe 10h ago

Gross. Have you never told anyone “whoah, too far, too far” when they’ve told an offensive joke? No, then yeah, you’re the piece of shit who is part of the problem. You have to be stupid if you think that’s “policing behavior”.

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u/PoursTea-ModTeam 10h ago

Language and etiquette.

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u/PoursTea-ModTeam 10h ago

Language and etiquette.