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⚠️Trigger Warning⚠️ Calls It

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u/Known-Exam-9820 3h ago

The “stop saying not all men” statement is completely disconnected and strange to attach to these crimes. The issue isn’t men or being male, or even men holding one another accountable. The issue is we live in a corrupt society where some people feel entitled and protected to commit heinous crimes.

And I’ve already pushed the assaulters and gropers out of my life and called them out and no one gave a damn, so how do i as a man affect this at all, other than trying to be a good influence?

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u/tzaeru 2h ago edited 2h ago

The "not all men" is really about the reactionary answer to cases about violence and abuse committed by men, wherein some people try to downplay the issue by deflection.

It just isn't an useful or a constructive way to go about it, hence needn't be used.

I kinda liked the inversion, "yes all women" - as in, saying that all women are affected by harassment and abuse and rape, since even if one isn't themselves abused, it still creates a sense of danger and worry when e.g. going about alone at night.

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u/Known-Exam-9820 2h ago edited 2h ago

Thank you. I agree with the sentiment of the saying, but i honestly think posts like this one are just a distraction and counterproductive. Some would say it keeps the conversation going, but i think it just derails it.

Like everything else in society, the root of the issue is over privilege, power, money, racism and yes, misogyny. I’m not defending any of the monsters that enact and enable sexual assault, but making it about sloganeering feels more like a psyop to discredit and maim any positive momentum in dealing with those issues.

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u/tzaeru 2h ago edited 1h ago

I'd def agree that we should be able to see the shared systems behind many issues more clearly; And I think it really does boil down to basically power in the majority of societal issues. Wealth inequalities are about keeping and amassing power, misogyny is about men wanting power over women, etc

Whenever one group feels entitled to having power over another - whatever the mechanism, from ethnicity to wealth, gender to party membership - problems ensue, and humanity is the worse for it.