The conundrum when Psychics with precognition can't see advantageous events like lottery numbers?

[u/Over-Tolerance]

Having done tons of research into actual investigation and experiments trying to define the experiences of Psi phenomena, the question arises in skeptics over and over. "Why can't you see things that would be helpful to you or others in this arena, like lottery numbers?"

Some of the experiments do show hits on lottery numbers, and up to 2 times hitting correct numbers in the case of the group in Colorado (A Colorado-based remote viewing group led by author Sean McNamara used remote viewing techniques to win the Colorado Pick 3 lottery twice) that showed it is possible. Interestingly, it took a group of 8 to make the 1972 Philip Experiment successful, giving the idea of a coven some weight that is rarely studied or followed up on. Most of the interesting experiments seem to dissolve into some abyss and never get more attention or repeat trials.

Have any of you experienced rewarding results that are personally advantageous for yourself? I have never personally had any 'luck' with this sort of precognition.

[u/Voxx418]

The real conundrum is people without spiritual psychic gifts, trying to monetize them for personal gain.

If all of the psychics (myself included,) got the winning numbers, we would all retire and live in luxury. We wouldn’t benefit anyone other than ourselves.

Maybe that will finally end this ridiculous question; However, I predict others will continue to ask it. ~V~

[u/Over-Tolerance → u/Voxx418]

Agree, and when I thought about encouraging a system of vetting and certification, I got a lot of pushback from the gallery full of those personal gain people. Yet these vetting systems do exist, are pretty thorough, and get very little recognition in the Psi world of skilled practitioners. Strange world we live in. The last vetting system I looked into had stopped doing it because they were not getting enough people surviving the vetting process, claiming they must have made it 'too hard'... go figure.

The underlying concept was more important than the question I posed. There appears to be rules or laws with some interesting controls in place regarding the use of these skills/gifts. I have been watching a Psi-related lock, block, and filter system being exposed as a real thing over and over, and this system has moving goalposts that appear to be outside of our control, much like the laws of physics are what they are and we can't just bypass them. Time has also been a strange research subject, focused on the related subject matter of precognitive abilities, and what is visible or invisible to us personally when compared to knowledge of the future events of others. So it will take more deep contemplation and observation to see if trying to bend the rules gets people blocked, filtered, or locked out of certain skill sets.

The ocean of Psi phenomena might be many different things, and perhaps all of these have a moral and ethical spine and are conscious of our attempts? Perhaps the failures are because we are trying to inject our human desires into something not human, and trying to anthropomorphize something that is not stuck with human foibles and interests? Who knows what may end up being true about the many realms of possible cause and effect systems?

Having seen multiple future events and telling the people involved before they happened, I have a worldview that is likely different than most, and lean towards many things being locked in place. Thus, if the lottery is not in your future, you can't force that to happen with any kind of psi skill. Long live the Moirai!

[u/Voxx418 → u/Over-Tolerance]

Greetings O,

I appreciate your intelligent and well-written response.

I was vetted by TV, film and book authors, over the years. I’m in the book, “100 Top Psychic & Astrologers,” (both editions.) I’ve blogged many world events (date/time-stamped) for a couple of decades as well.

Most of the current “vetting” sites, are paid for by members, and don’t really mean anything.

You might realize that String Theory seems to have something to do with the “observance” of particular actions, and built-in, karmic safeguards against certain Psychc manipulation.

Btw, I actually DID get accurate number predictions 3 times (with the same numbers,) but did not actually play them, thus, I did not win anything. I did this as an example for my students (all 3 times.) It’s a pretty famous story now… for another time. ~V~ (Prof Numerologist)

[u/Over-Tolerance → u/Voxx418]

Well Voxx, you are impressive. Perhaps you will share more of your insights with us some day?