r/SipsTea • • 8h ago

Lmao gottem Valid point

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u/TheQuadricorn 7h ago edited 7h ago

How much fucking money was deposited to make a piece of shit car fly for a couple of seconds that could have changed many many lives makes me sick. Fuck this timeline and fuck that musk gooch

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u/sedativumxnx 7h ago

I wrote something similar. I agree. He could be doing so many good things, like all the other top billionaires. They would still make money, just not as much. This is a disease. In this kind of world, to be able to sleep at night while children die of starvation daily, while at the same time growing your own wealth by a degree of billions, is lunacy.

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u/Aegi 5h ago

Yeah, people should do NOTHING with their money but help the poor, I agree!!

How many people spend money and time on thins like birthday gifts for loved ones or going to see a movie, or getting a pizza with friends instead of spending that money to help poor people more?

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u/sloth_ers 5h ago

Are you mental? Theres no comparison, at all.

Thats like comparing crumbs and a whole fucking cake shop.

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u/Rixerc 5h ago

I don't think a cake shop is big enough compared to a crumb to show the difference.

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u/im-a-filthy-casual 4h ago

Right? Crumbs to an entire multi-national, industrial pastry factory maybe, but just a cake shop still doesn’t reflect the disparity.

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u/NibblyPig 4h ago

Are you? How much tax did you pay this year to fund essential services, Musk paid $11billion in 2021, how close are you to that? Quite far off? Perhaps you should get a job then and start giving all your money away, who knows if everyone does it it might come close

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u/sloth_ers 3h ago edited 3h ago

Ive paid enough tax this year, I have a job. Work my arse off thanks.

And I do that for my family not myself.

I make pittance compared to that cunt, I am not in a position to give money away, he is.

Also, please dont make him out to be altruistic just because he pays what he is required to...by law..

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u/Low-Possibility-7060 3h ago

*paid. There is a reason why his shills only come up with the 2021 number.

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u/NibblyPig 2h ago

Yeah, come on pay piggy, $11 billion for 2021, what about 2022 huh? Literally the most evil man in the world for only paying that much once.

Talk about chomping the hand that feeds.

And considering he has liquidated more stock in years after 2021, no doubt the figure is higher, it's just not publicly available.

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u/Low-Possibility-7060 2h ago

Does that even cover what his companies get in government money?
He is not the hand that feeds, none of his companies needs him. He is not an engineer, no a programmer, doesn’t build and I doubt that he would be able to mop the floors. I am absolutely convinced all his companies would be better off without him. Especially since twitter and ketamine deep fried his brain a few years ago.

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u/NibblyPig 2h ago

It more than covers what his companies get in subsidies.

Remember that a lot of government money he receives is literally in exchange for services, eg space launches, ISS work, etc.

And most of the other subsidy money is something you benefit from as well, there is a reason America is such a powerhouse of the world, and part of it is that it encourages entrepreneurship through subsidies to ensure these companies work and invest in America and don't simply leave and go elsewhere.

He is an engineer and a programmer.

The fact you think he can't even mop the floors yet has built an empire making him the richest man who has ever lived suggests that you are a bit of a fool.

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u/Low-Possibility-7060 2h ago

I doubt it. Especially thanks to all those tax cuts.
He is neither, he is an investor who was born rich and bought good ideas and there is probably a reason why everything he touched has failed for years now. Be it the cybertruck or doge or the roadster or twitter or xAI or …

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u/CurvySexretLady 43m ago

"everything he touched has failed for years now."

Really? Tesla? SpaceX? Starlink?

You can criticize Musk all you want, but pretending his business ventures are nothing but a string of failures is absurd.

There's plenty to criticize without having to invent an alternate reality where none of his companies have accomplished anything.

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u/Low-Possibility-7060 21m ago

Yes. I said in the last years, include a list of things and you come up with old stuff that he hasn’t run into the ground yet.
Tesla’s sales peak was years ago, it’s barely profitable and even their main product, the stock has been trading sideways for years now - given that it’s overvalued 10x might be seen as a success.

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u/NibblyPig 1h ago

Of course you doubt it, because taking 10 seconds to google it would interfere with this self-righteous crusade you've invented in your own mind.

The guy is literally the richest man in the world and you think he's failing, do you not read your own words and think hold on that doesn't make any sense at all lol

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u/NibblyPig 2h ago

Really, $11 billion? Or $1100?

Obviously not working hard enough, or smart enough, come on pay piggy, earn more to pay for society, children are literally dying of starvation and here you are shitposting on reddit when you could be earning more money to pay for them.

Pretending you're not in a position to give money away, uh huh, are you literally scrabbling in the dirt, no, so get working

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u/CurvySexretLady 3h ago

please dont make him out to be altruistic just because he pays what he is required to...by law..

If he pays what is required by law, as you have also done, what exactly is the problem? Where is his obligation to pay more? That's not saying he is altruistic, but him not volunteering more tax payments doesn't make him evil. Nevermind those tax payments are billions of dollars.

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u/sloth_ers 2h ago

I'll never understand this billionaire worship.

Does he have to do more, no.. not really.

If he is in a position to do more but chooses to horde while being aware of the problems in the world, should he do more? Again, no.

Does that make him evil, knowning hes in a position to help and improve peoples lives but choosing not to? Absolutely.

But instead he comes up with cool stupid little gimmicky cars that will never amount to anything, guy is a complete tool.

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u/CurvySexretLady 1h ago

So Musk pays his legally required taxes, to the tune of billions of dollars, and you even acknowledge he has no obligation to give more. Yet somehow he's evil because he doesn't voluntarily spend his remaining wealth solving the world's problems?

That's quite the moral standard. Apparently paying billions in taxes isn't enough unless you personally eradicate world hunger afterward.

And Musk didn't personally engineer the car you're complaining about. Tesla has engineers who design and develop its vehicles. But sure, let's pretend every engineering project is Musk playing with his personal piggy bank instead of a company employing people to build products.

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u/Kommye 2h ago

The argument is that the law doesn't tax people fairly because the richest have been getting tax cuts since Reagan. The richest people pay too little un comparison to what they earn (when they aren't comitting tax evasion).

Billions is absolutely nothing to trillions. And these people use that money to fuck over us workers. Stop batting for trillionaires.

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u/CurvySexretLady 1h ago

If you think the wealthy should be taxed more, that's an argument for changing the tax laws. It doesn't establish that someone complying with those laws is doing something wrong.

And billions in taxes doesn't suddenly become "nothing" because someone's wealth is measured in larger numbers.

I'm not arguing that Musk is altruistic or that tax policy is perfect. I'm questioning the idea that someone is morally obligated to voluntarily surrender more of their wealth simply because they have it.

Disagreeing with that doesn't mean I'm "batting for trillionaires."

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u/NibblyPig 2h ago

"How dare he have more than me!!!" basically

We should just have a year out where all the rich people just pay $10,000 tax each and remind the people dependant on it to be grateful.

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u/CurvySexretLady 1h ago

Yeah, pretty much. People are big mad at the bad, evil billionaire, who... checks notes.. pays his legally required share of billions in taxes, shares this publicly as well, but it still isn't enough, because he has more he could give... to taxes?

Why doesn't Musk solve world hunger or something more useful?! /s