r/SipsTea • • 8h ago

Lmao gottem Valid point

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u/caj_account 5h ago

you may not think so but after WW2 the USA decided that France would be administrative and South Germany would be European production capital. Then the coal and steel oligarchs with the help of USA founded the ECSC. The US controlled european finance until the end of Brent Woods and afterwards Europe has never been able to manage its own money because that was never the goal. The goal was single market yet there's no fiscal union.

Relevant quote from wiki article:

The United States was not officially part of the treaty negotiations, but it was a major force behind the scenes

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u/Aromatic_School_7448 5h ago

N’importe quoi le projet de la CECA est une idee de Robert Shuman, avec ou sans l’accord des usa ça aurait existe..

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u/caj_account 4h ago

without america nobody (even europe) can do anything.

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u/Aromatic_School_7448 1h ago

Tu reves tout haut , l’union européenne avec ou sans les usa aurait existe , pense a De Gaulle qui a dit aux américains de partir de France et ils ont exécuté en fermant leurs gueules

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u/caj_account 1h ago

France wanted to completely destroy German industry so it can never rebuild. You guys have no clue. You forgot the Marshall plan so quickly. Credit to Europeans: you’re great at killing and ruining each other. 

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u/Aromatic_School_7448 59m ago

Avec ou sans le plan Marshall l’union européenne aurait existé .