They say about schools. France doesn’t have money apparently to fund both schools and the country very generous pensions. I believe the pension they give at the moment is above the average wage and their retirement age is low. Add in an aging population and the money for pensions have to come from somewhere. I think the pension spending of the French government is like 10 to 12? Percent of their gdpz
They are thinking long term. The only way they can endure their current suffering is the hope they can retire some day. Now they are told their sentence has been extended, and opens up the precedent it will be extended again before they reach it.
The retirement age and pensions are 100% the problems. They are well under the average in Europe. Combine that with an aging population and a yearly €60 BILLION (growing to €120B atm) spend on depth interest alone. France is fucked.
The issue is that the possible austerity measures politically do not include cutting pensions, that would hurt the main part of the electorate which is behind the success of Macron and the liberal parties
weren't they protesting like hell not long ago when it was proposed to move the minimum age for pensions a bit further? It was not 10 years, I remember it wasn't more than 2. Which, honestly, can make sense if the population is healthier for longer (which in turn makes you live longer and receive a pension for longer as well)
No there are not. Most of these falling apart schools are in underserved urban and suburban areas with high immigrant populations. So a lot of the students are 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th + generation from Northern Africa. Just because they have dark skin doesn't mean they are refugees.
Keep in mind that France colonized several countries in Northern Africa. And not even that long ago: my husband's entire family (white, catholic) ALL grew up in Morocco. If you go to Tunisia, Algeria, or Morocco - they all speak French there. So it makes perfect sense to have people from those places in France.
My dear, do you believe that every photo you see on the news or on social media is a 100% comprehensive, fully accurate portrayal of every single protest that is going on? Have you ever considered that maybe, certain images are selected in order to enrage gullible people like you?
That’s not the protest. That’s on the side of it, the “breakers” (casseurs) also called black blocks.
no one cares why they do that, so no one knows why, beside that they hate the police, which explains nothing.
Basically like a domestic terrorism and it’s management.
France is going broke. And education budgets inflation adjusted have been slashed for a long time and now France is spending more money on their military, students want better education not more tanks. But these people are just destroying shit because they want to.
Are you telling me the pants on heads Russian army that can't take Ukraine is going to charge through Nato countries into France? Do you really think they'd fight Nato. If they tried to add even Poland they'd grind to a halt. And by then they're fighting Germany, France, UK, Italy Spain, Greece, Canada, and possibly fucking America
100% but increased military spending when you can't afford to not piss off your people around education, pensions, taxes etc. It is a slippery slope. Can't fault it as a stand alone statement though
Its France. They do this every few months, and they do it until the government concedes.
Only country in the world that actually protests to hold the govt to account and you're so anti-democracy you disregard the possibility that they could actually believe in a cause.
The protesters in France are dumb. They can’t afford schools because they spend too much on pensions but they protest/vote against reform. They’re going bankrupt because the people are lazy and entitled.
The IMF said the same thing in other words. France is living above its means and their pension system is unsustainable- they’re losing credibility in bond markets. Politicians in any country can lie, but bond markets don’t.
IMF is in favour of cutting programs for the people.Im not giving my healthcare so an rich fuck can get an yacht GTFO.If you wanna prove to me you care about the economy ztart taxing the rich and dont cut their own taxes.GTFO.
This is how democracy works. Democracy where the people are complacent and don't burn down the streets, doesn't result in a govt that works for the people.
It's like pissing in your own bed and then expect to be OK at night time. All well Paris is a dump anyway, I say reap what they sow, destroy the city since no really cares outside France and it's probably a corrupt as it gets inside with the people making the decisions .
As people have said, budget for schools and to prevent private education from being the only reliable source of education, as this austerity against public schools and defunds is the idea.
Other than that also the rage from years under a government that very very very rarely listens and imposes austerity through all aspects of life in France, all while the country is economically pretty rich.
Yes because we all know that any sane human likes to put themselves at risk of arrest, injury, or death just for no reason. Protestors are just whiners and/or anarchists and the true brave member of society sit at home and comment online...
Protesting for a good cause is the right thing to do. But you're so frickin naive if you think that most of the people there care about school facilities.
From what I've gathered the current president (or their equivalent) has been encouraging the use of force on protesters, some incidents under reported include a protesters hand being blown off by a grenade of some kind, choking a 14 year old girl, and smashing a protesters head through a window.
High schools to be adapted for correct conditions and teachers to be presents (not enough teachers currently).
But the government decided not to listen when asked nicely and sent the police, which used disproportionnated violence.
Now it's getting out of control as everybody is unfuriated against the gov and the police.
For the first 2 or 3 weeks it was the high schoolers figuring out they could skip class if they protest and now it’s just everybody for every possible reason
That is kinda disingenuous, from what I've gathered taxes extracted from the working class we're being handed out to donors and companies instead of being invested in public services.
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u/Careful_Turnip_3197 5h ago
Tf are they protesting?