Except that France is already one of the most heavily taxed countries in the world. We’re already well above the average for developed countries.
The problem isn’t “not enough taxes on the rich.”
The problem is that the money is massively wasted, that there’s waste and corruption at every level, and that we have a pension system that’s a ticking time bomb.
Raising taxes even more solves nothing when the state spends 57% of GDP and the results (schools, hospitals, security, infrastructure) are stagnating or getting worse.
It’s not a revenue problem. It’s a management and structural problem.
But hey, keeping on believing that “more taxes = more justice” when we’re already at the ceiling is intellectually comfortable.
Exactly and I didn’t hear any candidate for presidential election speak about that. It’s either remove every social progress or tax more they barely speaking about ai and job destruction or universal income.
on est peut etre l'un des pays Les plus taxés, sauf que c'est Les pauvres qui en patient le plus. Il y a de l'argent, le probleme c'est qu'il ne change jamais de poches.
It "didn't work" because it's not enough. Which is also silly because France is a better country for it. Taxing rich people a little more isn't going to solve every problem
Tax them 100% of their income and it still wouldn't make a difference. The size of the French state is simply too big, too many people collecting government welfare.
If you remove all incentive for the rich to pursue wealth accumulation they will simply leave or stop producing as much wealth. Both scenarios are counter productive to those who expect taxing the rich to solve a failing economy.
The incentive is access to leech of the country economy, very often taking from public funds and forcing politicians to pass legistalion in their favour. If they want to go which surprise surprise they won't they can get the fuck out, they will be easily replaced.
Well unfortunately in this system you do need them because even though for you they don't pay enough taxes, they do still pay a lot of taxes and employ a lot of people. If you removed the wealthy from night to morning the system would falter. You'd have to move to a different system first in order to be able to not depend on them.
They mostly evade taxes, money launder, have as much as they can in tax havens...even Robert Kiyosaki gleefully explains this, epic music and slow panning included, in a YT video pretty much wanting to say in the end GREAT MEN find their way or something on that line.
This is not counting taking out from public resources for their shitty profit motivated private scams quite often.
That can all be true while my point still stands. That's because the system we exist in has been viciously made dependant on those vultures. We exist in a completely corrupt system and the idea that taxing the wealthy to give money to the non wealthy would solve such abomination is an infantile wishful thinking.
There are two options to actually solve anything, you either must create alternative societies that reject the system and those who rule it, or you must destroy the system completely and built something better out of its ashes. Both are more difficult than idealists and utopians would like to believe.
What do you think happens when you seize all the money of the mega rich via heavy taxation, after a few years either they're gone to other countries, or they are just not as rich, the entire left party budget resides on a finite resource that will disappear in a few years only widening France's debt...
Not saying we should tax mega corps and the super rich, but this won't prevent what's coming in 2027.
As said, already, France is overly taxed already. They have very limited room for this.
I would almost argue that cutting taxes would restore confidence in people about the cost of living if it went with government cuts and this could help economy grow.
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u/Cantripping_ 3h ago
Higher taxes for the rich.
The poor die if you tax them too much. The rich don't. It's a very easy equation.