r/SipsTea • • 10h ago

Chugging tea Peaceful protests in France today

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u/us1549 9h ago edited 7h ago

France is broke and need to cut something like 130b from it's budget annually by 2030.

If they don't, bond yields will skyrocket making their fiscal pain even more pronounced. They need to raise taxes, cut retiree benefits and raise the retirement age.

Either France does it on their own terms or the bond market will do it for them.

Their social benefits have been much too rich for too long for an economy that isn't growing. It sucks for young people but the math is the math.

France needs a president that will explain that to the French people as most are not experts in bond yields and budget deficits relative to GDP. The last few presidents have tried and the people have responded by rioting.

Great explanation of France's fiscal crisis

https://youtu.be/Uje_KSCzJJc?si=rUPmEbJjsPG-TMXu

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u/coinminer2049er 7h ago

Basically. France is in late atage socialism where they ran out of other people's money to spend. 

The problem is made worse by importing a ton of people who put even more strain on a social safety net that they never paid into. 

🤷‍♂️

I was just there this summer. It's pretty meh. A lot of the city is run down. The locals are either really poor or really rich. There's no middle class. And if I wasn't a tall dude built like a linebacker and had the mind of a carnie, there probably were a few parts of the city that would not have been safe to visit 

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u/ObjectiveCat5122 5h ago

Basically what Reddit wants America to become

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u/IAmSquilliam 3h ago

No, it is what America became.

The fuck you think Social Security is???

We just took the UHC money and spent it on Trump's Hookers and Israel.

Why do you think America had to go in and change the way they calculate unemployment (it doesn't count people who are perpetually out of work) or changed the cutoff for a recession / depression?

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u/Vyncent2 4h ago

It has become what Amerika already is

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u/keithstonee 4h ago

Okay brother but we're in late stage capitalism. it's not any better. The only difference is if you make a lot of money you don't know until it's too late. Or you probably don't care.

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u/Potential_Slice_5631 4h ago

Americans have a lot to learn from the French. When our (USA) government steals money from social welfare and retirement accounts, we shrug and find a new show to stream and soon forget about the problem.
Relatively soon (within a couple of decades) pelple will start getting outraged when Millenials begin retiring but only drawing ~70% of promised Social Security benefits and their children will have fork out to cover the difference. Those people will be the ones burning cars and terrorizing politicians in the streets to force change

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u/ObjectiveCat5122 4h ago

That’s not at all whole they are rioting

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u/yadasellsavonmate 4h ago

And UK 

"We need to rejoin the EU"  

looks at France

Nah, your alright mate...

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u/IAmTheNightSoil 4h ago

I mean, leaving the EU has definitely made Britain poorer and worse off. All available economic data shows that

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u/yadasellsavonmate 4h ago

Nope

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/uk-had-fastest-growing-g7-economy-in-first-half-of-2026-410114/

We aren't having riots in the street mate, France are WAY worse off don't be silly.

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u/IAmTheNightSoil 3h ago

That isn't because of Brexit. Unless you're suggesting that the plan behind Brexit was to be in the economic gutter for a decade before growing slightly for six months a decade after the vote? In any case, try this link for a look at the effects: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jun/14/how-uk-economy-changed-since-brexit-vote-charts

The current riots in France also don't have anything to do with them being in the EU. I can't even guess what connection you're claiming to see there

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u/yadasellsavonmate 3h ago

All nations around the world have done worse since brexit, we've had a pandemic and everything since then it's not down to Brexit. 🤣

We are all poorer, we are just less poorer than most EU nations including France.    As for the connection, why the fuck do we want to be like France?  Italy is also starting similar riots if you check the news, its gonna happen all over the EU they're all fucked.   Fuck joining that shit. 

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u/IAmTheNightSoil 23m ago

As I said, I have no idea why you think that these riots are happening because of the EU, or that leaving the EU somehow protects Britain from riots or makes them less likely. It makes absolutely no sense