r/Wolverine • u/Funny_Or_Cry • 9h ago
(MARWOLF) - Is Logan an alcoholic? like a bad one?
All these years and its finally coming together. This dude walks around with the shirt off his back and barely 2 nickles in his pocket at any given point in time.
and Im like, WHY is he always broke?!
Nathanial Essex OTOH is like ~200 years old too and the man is richer than Diddy
Its gotta be the drinking. I always thought his metabolism would prevent him gettin sloshed but I guess I was wrong
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u/Sugar_Crash_Brigade 9h ago
I think it's stated once upon a time, that Wolverine actually has a crazy amount of money, he just doesn't want to use it or show it off?
I did a quick search on it but didn't find anything of use. Maybe someone else can chime in.
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u/Cael_NaMaor 8h ago
It was stated in the comics that he's among the wealthiest members of the X-men
My google search says he inherited the Howlett fortune (logging in Canada), over a century of accrued interest; inherited the Yashida crime family fortune, & demonstrated this wealth by funding the school in the series Wolverine and the X-men
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u/UnicornWorldDominion 8h ago
Oh is that how they funded everything? I was always so curious!
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u/RandomPenquin1337 4h ago
That and prof X bekgn able to just gather insider info whenever he wants and trade fat stocks
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u/joblow514 8h ago
He's rich but not crazy rich like tony stark or Bruce Wayne. His money is managed by landau luckman and lake or LLL which is kind of like a poor man's version of the tva and operates in multiple dimensions. He used to own a bar but I'm not sure if he still does or not
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u/maltliquorjetski 6h ago
Have the been in the MCU yet? Iām really hoping Madripoor and LLL gets brought in at some point.
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u/apatheticviews 6h ago
Madripoor shows up in Falcon and the Winter Soldier
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u/maltliquorjetski 5h ago
Oh I half watched the one and donāt rememberā¦but it aināt the same thing without āPatch!ā
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u/Sugar_Crash_Brigade 7h ago
If I had to put a figure on it, I agree he isn't billionaire wealthy, but hundreds of millions possibly
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u/LewisRyan 6h ago
Heās like the vampire father from twillight āwhen youāve been working for 700 years, you tend to save some moneyā
Wolverine read that army contract with a fine tooth comb. āYouāll pay for all my stuff for life huh bub?ā
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u/HickoryStickz 9h ago
I mean he has to have access to dough if he has a bunker with his shtf loadout stored inside. I donāt think those are cheap.
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u/Sugar_Crash_Brigade 9h ago
I pulled an old issue, #79 Volume 2, where he has a huge warehouse of antique weapons and all sorts of interesting artifacts... So he definitely definitely has a lot of money,
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u/SpprtRdcIHbts 8h ago
There is zero excuse not to be filthy rich after living 150+ years. Our economic system is based on compounding interest .....Well I guess other than he can't remember anything.
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u/Fenrir_Carbon 4h ago
He could have had his fortune destroyed by 2 depressions a century apart tbf
He had stock in Bank of United States, Enron and sold all his Gamestop shares in 2020
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u/mattyonice 7h ago
My first comic I ever bought was Wolverine #82. In it, he talks about a child he saves being funded properly through Landau, Luckman, and Lake.
It made it seem like he was ridiculously wealthy
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u/asilentsigh 4h ago
Itās in a comic where heās in California with Melita and talking about opening his own school. It might be after/during that little Chinatown run. I canāt remember the exact comic but itās probably a thing that can be Googled. Anyway, she says something about him having the money to build a school and heās like why do you think I have no money? She tells him because he lives out of two paper sacks and he replies saying how thatās just a lifestyle choice (Iām probably paraphrasing a lot but thatās the idea). I have this screenshot somewhere but not at hand!
Anyway, it would make sense that he would have money stored away because he doesnāt really live a lavish lifestyle, heās been alive for ages and is always working with every team possible plus normal human jobs a lot of the time too. As Patch alone, heās probably made himself a ton of money through both legit and shady means, which I believe is referenced in the comics at different points. There is this thing that happens after the Fox movies where writers begin to depict him as an incompetent slob but that was never his vibe previously. He might be careless with himself but heās not irresponsible in general. Heās a smart man who has been around for a long time. Heās got safe-houses all over the world, thereās no way he hasnāt been saving money too. He also comes from some extreme wealth and even if he never got the chance to really claim any of it, Iām sure he understands how money works by now!
Tl;dr is that the man had enough cash to build and operate an entire school, to staff and house teachers and students, to have the tech and an ever watching/present Danger Roomā¦donāt let the appearance fool you, heās doing ok for himself. Being on every team ever has got to pay!
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u/haste319 2h ago
Duuuude, I wasn't even thinking of the Patch run!
He probably made a killing in Madripoor.
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u/asilentsigh 2h ago
Haha right?! The man has been around and he has been working! Itās crazy that there is this idea that heās a bum when nobody is doing as much as he is! He probably made a few bucks from his time in the military across decades, heās on every superhero team, heās teaching, heās running a bar while doing the whole Patch thing, heās a busy guy who loves a side quest!
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u/Funny_Or_Cry 8h ago
I know ive come across the same someplace! ...maybe a What If Story
But thats my point, You cant tell me he doenst have some WW2 trophy gold stashed away in the canadian rockies LOL
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u/Dudewhocares3 7h ago
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u/nickytheginger 6h ago
considering the government funded the illegal experiment that put adamantium in his body, I' think they' look the other way about back taxes.
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u/Sugar_Crash_Brigade 7h ago
Wolverine is Canadian, so why would Tony Stark, an American, care about what Wolverine has or has not paid?
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u/LewisRyan 6h ago edited 3h ago
The irs always get their due.
The other option is let Wolverine be extradited (wouldnāt go well for the cops sent to arrest him)
Wolverine would kill them, putting a huge target on superheroās as a whole, one bad apple spoils the bunch
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u/BilliamClimptonIII 8h ago
He may be an alcoholic in spirit, but his healing factor won't let him be a true alcoholic
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u/Funny_Or_Cry 7h ago
Any AA meeting Wolvie is in will never be the same:
W:"Hey my names Logan and Im an alcoholic"
"Hi Logan!"
W:"I been on the good stuff since 1890. I been trying to cut back"
"Im sorry, did you say 1890?"
W:"Yeah bub"
"You know you're not supposed to come TO a meeting loaded right?"
W:"What are you trying to say bub?"
"Im saying, you need to dry out first. This is a safe place to face your demons
W:"How bout I show you a demon right now"...1
u/heywhathsuo 6h ago
You can go to AA or NA meetings while drunk or high, literally kinda what its for so you can start on a path to betterment
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u/redkomic 9h ago
he really can't get drunk so yes. and no.
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u/UnicornWorldDominion 8h ago
Thereās been times he seems absolutely sloshed but itās only after drinking a fuck ton.
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u/Ahorahan 9h ago
As far as habits go, yeah. As for As effects go, not really. If I remember correctly he can only stay drunk for a very short amount of time.
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u/UnicornWorldDominion 8h ago
Yeah thatās why he chugs a whole bottle of whiskey so he can get drunk like someone would after 3-4 drinks
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u/Arkamfate 7h ago
Hold my beer.
Logan is a functional alcoholic. Like a real life one. It takes a rather large quantity of booze to get him even slightly buzzed. He drinks cause he loves the taste and after burn honestly.
He functions with and without it, hence being a functional alcoholic. The term(irl) refers to people that can drink and get drunk and still act/behave as normal. Logan, is the superior version of that. As his healing factor makes it difficult for him to get drunk. Even if he were he'd be fine. Captian America, Deadpool, The Flash, and Superman all have similarities when it comes to alcohol consumption. They cannot get drunk or it metabalizes ver fast.
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u/isthisonetakentoo309 5h ago
I would disagree, if he isn't getting drunk due to the healing factor then he's not acting/behaving normal while drunk. If he's just drinking for the taste that would put him closer to being a conisur than an alcoholic
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u/ErstwhileAdranos 5h ago
Heās not a functional alcoholic. To be considered a functional alcoholic, you still have to meet the criteria for Alcohol Use Addiction, and he does not.
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u/RaeMidwestMae 8h ago
Logan's healing factor burns through alcohol so fast that he probably has to drink an impossible amount just to catch a mild buzz
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u/spectatorade 8h ago
This!!!!
Also answers the 'how can Logan ALWAYS be smoking a cigar with no breathing issues?'
Like bro can tank a bullet to the head, radiation exposure, electrocution, and The Phoenix... He's not being done in by a 10proof and a smoke.
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u/Gojifantokusatsu 9h ago
I think it's still canon that he literally invented Beer
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u/UnicornWorldDominion 8h ago
Except beer has been around for thousands of years?
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u/Gojifantokusatsu 8h ago
And the Thing is Blackbeard the pirate. I dont think historical accuracy matters.
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u/Character_Neck_2368 8h ago
He isn't the type to save money. He work at blue collar jobs and odd jobs, spend on things like clothes, cigars, drinks and motorcycle. He also have memory problems which make long term investment complicated.
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u/Funny_Or_Cry 8h ago
I know right! and the memory totally makes sense ...hahah he's probably collected and just up and forgotten about a dozen fortunes over the decades
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u/Fang3710 8h ago
Is there a "good kind" of alcoholic? šŗšµāš«š¤¢š¤®
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u/Funny_Or_Cry 8h ago
YEAH the good time alkie's you wanna do drinking games with!
Drinking games with Logan will always wind up getting shanked. No Bueno
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u/Janer-Raner8200 8h ago
Thatās not cause heās drunk though(he canāt really get drunk), he just chooses to use his knives as a solution to every problem he has.
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u/Artistic_Kangaroo932 7h ago
Wolverine doesn't care about money and technicaly is a alcoholic larper as he is immune to the life threating downsides (other than being stupid) and addiction/dependancy to alcohol
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u/ThanksWild4275 8h ago
Bro loves beer so much he invented it
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u/Funny_Or_Cry 7h ago
hahah there was one of those memory sequences he talks about being a moonshine runner.
He got the bug!
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u/Dadbod-goatee 6h ago
Due to his Healing factor poisons have very little effect on Logan. He literally doesn't get drunk.
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u/EdgyPun34257 4h ago
Logan's healing Factor basically means it's almost impossible for him to get drunk, and if he does ingest the vast amount necessary to get a buzz it doesn't last minutes.
That's why he drinks and smokes cigar is heavily, because he has to super ingest to get anything out of it
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u/Arkmes 3h ago
The healing factor doesn't mean alcohol doesn't have an intoxicating effect. It may mean it causes less long term damage though.
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u/EdgyPun34257 1h ago
That's at least one comic I remember of Wolverine saying "alcohol is a toxin, and my body instantly neutralizes toxins"... But he was obviously drunk at the time.
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u/Cael_NaMaor 8h ago
This pic makes it look like he & Nightcrawler about to have a night that Nightcrawler's gonna have to pray about for years to come...
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u/Floronic_man 4h ago
It's a popular trope for immortal, inmune or high healing factor characters to do selfharm, addictions, toxic substances, drugs...
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u/Alternative-Jello683 2h ago
I mean, when you know you canāt die of something, it can easily just be ignored or become a habit.
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u/seanmonaghan1968 1h ago
I think living hundreds of years, friends constantly dying, seeing the things he has would likely drive most to drink a little
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u/Funny_Or_Cry 59m ago
This is the only answer LOLOL. i imagine he spent some time TRYING to be a wino and forget about all his issues (of that century LOL) but eventually levelled out
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u/fenrisunchained117 8m ago
not to mention the constant kidnapping by shady organizations and memory wipes. when Wanda gave him back all his memories multiple government agencies went into panic mode and started mass shredding and deleting files
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u/thejason755 1h ago
Honestly, if a naked nightcrawler suddenly apparated right in front of me i might choose to hit the sauce a little.
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u/Icy-Status2681 50m ago
I've always wondered if his healing factor including filtering toxins from his blood? Could he even get drunk?
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u/KTPChannel 39m ago
Imagine being able to smell everyone and everything within a 500m radius.
He drinks for the same reason he smokes cigars. Heās dulling the senses.
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u/Funny_Or_Cry 24m ago
Yeah gotta admit that'd probably keep me drowned in scotch most of the time too
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u/XenowolfShiro 8h ago
Is there such a thing as a good alcoholic?
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u/BrandoCarlton 7h ago
I mean itās a disease. There are tons of decent people that have fallen victim to the booze. Historically Ulysses S. Grant is my favorite alcoholic.
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u/Funny_Or_Cry 8h ago
YEAH! those good time alkie's you can play drinking games with.
Drinking games with logan will always end up with somebody getting shanked. Its no good
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u/fenrisunchained117 4m ago
there is that one DC hero who only has superpowers while drunk, and uses them for good. i think he counts
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u/Tight-Parking955 6h ago
It really does not matter its not like he's gonna die from alcoholism? And he's not gonna develop a beer belly from it
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u/HangryBeard 6h ago
With the shit he's seen, his rate of healing, and immortality, really how could he not be? It probably takes him a few bottles of bourbon within an hour for him to get tipsy. Dude is always drinking.
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u/IllegitimateBuddhist 6h ago
Heās a functioning alcoholic, yes. Logan canāt get drunk the way humans can. He would have to drink massive quantities of high proof alcohol to get drunk like a normal person who mostly drinks Whiskey every day.
Now, if Logan were to be in an Olympic sized swimming pool full of say, 100 proof Whiskey, and he was somehow able to consume, letās say, a quarter of it, heād probably be drunk for at least a few weeks.
Or heād be dead due to drowning.
Probably. I donāt know.
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u/Funny_Or_Cry 6h ago
BWHAHAHA,.. ok you have a point. The consensus seems to be:
- Wolvie drinks cause he likes it
- He likes it so much, he cant get drunk
- So He's a high functioning alchoholic
- and so long as he stays away from olympic pool size tubs of hard liquor, he's usually good to go within hours
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u/Sekshual_Tyranosauce 5h ago
I figure his healing factor sobers him up fast AF and keeps his liver tip top.
I donāt think alcoholism applies to him any more than any other disease does.
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u/JohnMarston38 5h ago
James Howlett aka Wolverine gets his drinks for free because people fear him.
Most of his habits comes from Smitty from the comic Wolverine Origin. After James lost his father by accident when he discovered his powers for the first time. After he fled from his home, he took most of his habits from Smitty. He has seen in him somehow a father figure. He wanted to be like him, serious, mean and strong.
When it's about James being an alcoholic, it depends on his mood and how his day went and depending on who you're, he will act differently.
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u/Kdilla77 5h ago
No; heās not constantly drinking but he enjoys going on a bender from time to time. He does feel the effects of alcohol, he just feels it less because of his healing factor. (He clearly states āIām drunkā in Claremont/Millerās original miniseries.) My head canon states that one six pack hits him like one beer for a man his size.
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u/Tsujigiri 5h ago
I've always been curious to know if the biological aspect of addiction is healed by healing factors. If so, he probably just does it behaviorally, because he enjoys it, and because he can.
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u/Wise-Perception-5832 5h ago
His metabolism DOES prevent him from getting sloshed which is why he needs to drink SO MUCH to be able to feel anything, or maybe more accurately so he doesn't feel the emotions he doesn't want to feel. I also saw it mentioned that he likely smokes cigars so often to deaden his sense of smell so he doesn't have to deal with all the other strong scents around him.
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u/cthesmith 5h ago
He's broke because he doesn't give a shit. If a person cares about power they can make themselves wealthy in a single lifetime, if you're Logan you'll spend most of your lifetimes drinking beer that barely dulls your senses to try to forget everything you've had to do.
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u/thelonetext 4h ago
He is neither a alcoholic nor a drunkard. That healing factor and the fact that he's constantly under attack makes it quite hard to enjoy the buzz of boozing.
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u/More_Act_7538 4h ago
I didnāt think mutants can get drunk. Considering, alcohol is a poison and Loganās healing repairs intoxicationā¦
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u/RuneKnight3 3h ago
Alcoholic for Wolverine with his powers is a relative term, but its become worse since he isn't allowed to visually smoke anymore because Joey Q said so.
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u/kastles1 2h ago
He canāt get drunk for the most part. So what may look like a lot is just a buzz if that for him.
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u/bootyholeboogalu 2h ago
Yeah I know you're wrong now about that like completely wrong about it but go ahead
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u/Funny_Or_Cry 55m ago
This started from this one level in MARWOLF where he wakes up in some other dudes bed with like 100 empty corona bottles scattered about.
Im guessing he can drink himself to sleep easy enough but then his metabolism slows like anybody elses would, and he's gotta suffer a hangover for a few (minutes? certianly no more than 30) before everything rights itself
Rinse, repeat, no fear of liver damage. Thats actually not a bad deal TBH
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u/theBJbanditO 41m ago
Lmao what is a "good" alcoholic?
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u/Funny_Or_Cry 32m ago
Somebody you can get sloshed and play drinking games with , without worrying about getting a carrot up the butt...or shanked
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u/theBJbanditO 29m ago
That's called "non-violent." I don't think you know what an alcoholic is or how many different types of alcoholics there are.
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u/Funny_Or_Cry 25m ago
HAH i meant more in the context of "is the reason why the MFer always seems broke, is he spent the last 200 years trying to stay hammered, cause of the f*cuked sh*t he's had to do



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u/PersonalitySmall593 9h ago
He likes to drink but he can't get drunk on anything on earth. He regularly goes to Knowhere or Asgard when he wants to get real drunk. He and Thor are actually drinking buddies. But Essex was a socialite, inventor and Businessman, that's why he's rich. Logan was a wanderer who regularly had his memory wiped and was used as a weapon for a long time.