r/XboxAlly • • 1d ago

❓️Question / Advice Was the dock worth it??

I bought a Bulwark 7-1 dock and tried hooking it up to my Ally X20, it kinda sucks. For one, how do you control it while docked?? I have to bend down to use it while it’s on my TV stand. Where do people put it??

I bought the X20 to be used as a handheld so docking it seems like a waste of money and time. But…Everyone else seems to be using one. Idk…

do you use your Ally X20 while docked?? I need advice/help

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u/haltandcatch22 1d ago

You dock and use an external controller my dude

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u/TriKPop3013 1d ago

How do you select the tabs then? The controls are so limited when docked! Like you can select a application with a controller. Or browser search. I tried. It doesn’t work right

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u/semiQuack 1d ago

I didn't try with a dock yet, but if you press that asus button left, in the side menue you can choose your inputs. i would use mouse and keyboard and use the controller like with an pc

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u/TriKPop3013 1d ago

Then there’s no point of a dock then and I have no room to use a keyboard and mouse with it

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u/semiQuack 1d ago

i mean its a windows system, you are basically docking an pc.

there are very tiny mouse-keyboard 2 in 1 solutions for traveling or sitting on the couch

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u/TriKPop3013 1d ago

I tried using an external controller and it’s not that great

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u/CaptBurgundy 16h ago

OP acting like a certified dummy in the comments. 

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u/TriKPop3013 10h ago

How am i acting like a dummy?? WHY DOES NO ONE UNDERSTAND? Why is everyone bullying me?!

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u/Interesting_Item4707 8h ago edited 3h ago

Actually after having a conversation with this guy, what it actually is,

he bought an expensive thing but didn’t buy the other expensive thing (too expensive) that allows him to control the expensive thing from a distance.

if he had bought the expensive thing for controlling at a distance from the same product family there would be no issues with expensive thing.

Unfortunately as windows doesn’t have a built in expensive thing control remotely to use non controller experience things, he doesn’t want to put any effort in to make it control the expensive thing well (due to it being so expensive) as he think it should just control the expensive thing in the first place.

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u/CaptBurgundy 3h ago

What the hell are you talking about

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u/Interesting_Item4707 3h ago edited 3h ago

lol I’m taking the piss. Basically this dude bought it not realising it’s a windows PC and opened steam in standard mode not big picture mode and his controller of course doesn’t work there.

Basically he thought it would play and work just like say a Nintendo Switch 2.

What I’m more amazed about is he spent all this money with zero research.

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u/Magnetic_Metallic 1d ago

I’m still trying to see if it’s worth it.

My elite controller didn’t work at all.

I got it as a streaming companion to my desktop; docked to my living room would be cool once I figure everything out.

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u/TriKPop3013 1d ago

Like how are you supposed to use a external controller? It won’t work properly

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u/Magnetic_Metallic 1d ago

Which part doesn’t work?

I’ve read you have to disable the embedded controller.

Could try connecting before you dock it?

I’m going to troubleshoot a bit when I get home. If I figure stuff out I’ll let you know.

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u/gummyworm21_ 1d ago edited 1d ago

The Rakiri 2 controller is meant to be used* with it. Even without it you can just use big picture mode and set your tdp to 35 watts.  

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u/TriKPop3013 1d ago edited 1d ago

That controller is incredibly expensive, it’s $160, and i already over $1500 on the Ally X20 with the dock and charger plus i bought a new keyboard for about $120

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u/gummyworm21_ 1d ago

Then use a controller you already have. Do you use steam? Just boot to big picture and leave the wattage on max. If you don’t want to buy the official controller then make do with what you have. Thats the tradeoff. Or just use it how it’s meant to be used. Handheld. 

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u/TriKPop3013 1d ago

It doesn’t work, it feels weird. How are you supposed to use external controllers? You can’t use controllers while browsing even the built in controllers

And how do you stand it up? It’s heavier than i thought

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u/Interesting_Item4707 9h ago

Wait have you not flipped up the flap yet?

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u/TriKPop3013 9h ago

I mean off the dock!

I can’t just keep it on the dock, cuz how would I play it otherwise

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u/Interesting_Item4707 9h ago

This has to be a troll post…..

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u/TriKPop3013 9h ago

Why?? WHATS WRONG WITH WHAT I SAID?!! What’s so troll?!

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u/Interesting_Item4707 8h ago

Because you’re acting and saying very strange things. You are talking like the dock is some portable add on to the Ally, you dock it, connect your controller either via Bluetooth or a wireless adapter and just game. It’s meant to prompt you if you want to disable the internal controller when you connect an external one.

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u/TriKPop3013 8h ago

Like when you have to select a game, you have to select the game with a cursor or something. Which is inconvenient if you have to use a mouse and Keyboard

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u/duntduntdahh 1d ago

I use a manba one controller.  Very reasonable price and works on everything I throw at it.07

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u/TriKPop3013 1d ago

I used a Xbox controller s/x/one. How are you supposed to use a controller

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u/duntduntdahh 1d ago

Im not sure of any settings to change for it to work better.  I use mine with xr glasses and am close enough to the dock to access the touch screen if needed.  Sorry wasn't more helpful

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u/TriKPop3013 1d ago

Everyone getting the XR glasses, is everyone with a handheld or ALLY rich or something??

Close enough? Where do you put it?

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u/duntduntdahh 1d ago

No where near rich. I have the white xbox ally.  The glasses are Ray neo air4 pro they where 240$ on sale and are awesome.  And I put it close with one of those tv tray things that can fold away.

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u/TriKPop3013 1d ago

Where are you sitting tho?

My tv is a distance from my couch and anywhere i can sit and i have to get up and bend to use it

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u/duntduntdahh 1d ago

I'm on the couch with the ally and dock on the tray next to me.  The glasses have no battery and the cord is short. That's really the only reason for my janky setup.

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u/TriKPop3013 1d ago

What’s a tv tray?

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u/duntduntdahh 1d ago

It's like a little one and a half foot by one and a half foot tray/table with fold out scissor legs.  Used to be called tv dinner trays, back when those existed. I'm old.  I think it was from Ikea.

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u/TriKPop3013 1d ago

How is the cord that long? Because the cords you use must be incredibly long

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u/ogskizz 1d ago

My Z1E automatically opens Steam big picture mode when I dock it and connect my 8bitdo Ultimate controller, does the X not have that? I'm still setting up my X20, can check once I'm done.

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u/TriKPop3013 1d ago

Docking it lags it so much, it’s pointless to dock it

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u/Frequent_Advance7063 23h ago

You need a mini Bluetooth keyboard... and a mouse. So annoying on my xax too. I got two keyboards, mini and a big one for fps. My mouse is Bluetoothed. Also be sure you turn off the rog screen when output to the TV, just output to tv or you'll not get HDR 120hz

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u/TriKPop3013 23h ago

I’m thinking there’s no point in docking since it’s a handheld.

I already have a PC.

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u/Frequent_Advance7063 23h ago

I have this ugreen 120hz 4k dock sitting here hooked up to an hdd with a keyboard dongle plugged in, as well as a mouse and controller (Bluetoothed directly to my xax ). All i got to do is plug one usb cable into my XAX and it'll output to tv. I also can plug in another controller for 2 player gaming when the gf wants to join in. This is better and cheaper

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u/TriKPop3013 22h ago

It doesn’t work for me. It lags and the controls are terrible

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u/Frequent_Advance7063 22h ago

The screen lags or there's input delay? I had to switch my TV hdmi mode to game optimization and In Armour crate turn on anti lag

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u/TriKPop3013 22h ago

Also can anyone comment for the X20? Cuz i’m not using the old XAX

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u/Frequent_Advance7063 22h ago

Xax and x20 is using the same chipsets.. same ram cpu wafer etc. At the end of the day you need a keyboard to control it, and change the mode to desktop, auto, desktop etc

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u/TriKPop3013 22h ago

Yet it works terribly on my X20. It lags while in dock mode.

And using external controllers while docked is so trash

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u/Frequent_Advance7063 22h ago

I stuck to using Bluetooth xbox controllers just to avoid cables. XAX is fine perhaps check drivers or try it using another device connected by hdmi.

Check that you're giving enough power to the dock. Use one to connect power to the device directly and another one for the port. I recall bulwark needs a higher wattage USB c adaptor

I plug the usb c power into my rog directly and my ugreen dock to the other port if playing higher demand game titles. If I'm playing more optimized games no need

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u/TriKPop3013 22h ago

Like it lags like f**ing hell when on the TV

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u/Frequent_Advance7063 22h ago

Check your display settings and only output to the TV. Don't let anything show on your x20 display. And make sure you're in turbo mode

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u/TriKPop3013 22h ago edited 21h ago

I do, that’s how it is. If i turn on v sync, it’s locked 30 but no v sync it goes from high to low fps like nuts

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u/LostSomewhere7708 22h ago

This dock works great for my xax

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u/TriKPop3013 22h ago

I bought the New X20

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u/LostSomewhere7708 21h ago

I don't know why this one wouldnt work

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u/TriKPop3013 21h ago

Because it doesn’t say it does. And compatibility issues. They also released a new bulwark dock with the X20

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u/StringCompetitive649 22h ago

I returned mine. overly expensive for no reason benefit. I later got the jsaux dock just for troubleshooting the xax in desktop mode.

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u/TriKPop3013 22h ago

The dock sucks, It lags when i switch to dock mode!

Wdym troubleshooting??

Also I’m using the X20, why does everyone keep talking about the old XAX

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u/StringCompetitive649 22h ago

I mean just like installing 9the apps or just general use as a desktop pc.

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u/TriKPop3013 22h ago edited 22h ago

Wdym? How does the dock help? What apps?

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u/Interesting_Item4707 18h ago

I like the Bulwark as it’s the only dock I’ve tried that plays nice with my Samsung G9 Ultra-wide.

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u/TriKPop3013 9h ago

How? How do you use it? How is the compatibility?

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u/Key_Bicycle9461 14h ago

Mine works great. Use it to play WoW Forever.

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u/Gamerxx13 9h ago

i have had the bulwark. i really like it. i have a xbox controller paired with it and like the usb

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u/TriKPop3013 9h ago

How do you use it? Like browsing is hard

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u/Gamerxx13 9h ago

if you have a controller its like a regular console?

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u/TriKPop3013 9h ago

People don’t seem to know what I’m talking about? Like when you’re in a browser. The controls won’t do everything. You would need a mouse to browse

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u/Gamerxx13 9h ago

that would be the issue with any doc then? im not sure what your use case is , i guess you are browsing through edge or chrome with it? ya you would need a keyboard or mouse. i just play games with it and a controller is fine.

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u/TriKPop3013 9h ago

How do you select your games tho? You still need to select it

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u/TriKPop3013 7h ago

I feel like docking it is useless tho considering it’s a handheld. And a waste of money since i paid for tmr sticks, oled and all that stuff. I spent almost $1600 in total for the dock, X20 and the charger!

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u/TriKPop3013 1d ago

why is it laggy asf when i turn it to docked mode

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u/TriKPop3013 22h ago

Can anyone comment for the X20? Cuz the XAX and the X20 aren’t the same

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u/Appropriate_Sale1834 21h ago

Cant tell if youre serious or slow. They're identical except for the screen.

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u/TriKPop3013 21h ago

Then how come my dock is having so many issues with the X20

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u/Appropriate_Sale1834 13h ago

Firmware updates, compatibility issues with monitor/tv. Controller could be the issue.

Figure that out, then someone can help

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u/TriKPop3013 10h ago

Idk! Idk shit about any of this! I use a normal Xbox wireless controller!
I updated everything on my Dock and Handheld!

And wdym compatibility issues? If that’s the case i can’t do anything about that!